Nick Hardy's Skunk Works #2 The Giant SIP Outdoor Soil: Thailand!

bluter said:
nick's stuff is always super well thought through.
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Thanks Bluter! Very kind words! Mostly but then the plan is ever changing!

Woke up to this Azi! Organic they said, SIP they said, its easy they said 🤣

Just gonna leave her a few hours. See what happens then with some sun.

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Is now!

It was dry to a finger down. I think I detected some mould on the base of the trunk.

Drained the res. Looked through the scope. Maybe some roots like 10mm starting to come through the grate to rhe res.

Top watered about 18L - 8 of which were H2O2 pool water aimed at the trunk and refilled the res.

There wasn’t any rain over night. My guess is some significant root issue and she’ll die today.
 
NickHardy said:
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It was dry to a finger down. I think I detected some mould on the base of the trunk.

Drained the res. Looked through the scope. Maybe some roots like 10mm starting to come through the grate to rhe res.

Top watered about 18L - 8 of which were H2O2 pool water aimed at the trunk and refilled the res.

There wasn’t any rain over night. My guess is some significant root issue and she’ll die today.
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That's very sad. Please, if this does happen, do a rootopsy.
 
She was fine 7 hours before but had fallen over again and the supports had moved a lot. I slept really well last night for once so could have been some big gusts but not sure how accurate the weather station wind anemometer is - it never goes above 15km (its on a pole 3m high on the roof to clear the water tank and roofs so about 5m above the plant.

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Maybe the roots snapped yesterday. But its a very sudden decline.

Meh. I have a spare Red Hot Cookies downstairs. Probably change the design a little and go again with that.

Worse things happen at sea as my mother is fond of saying 🤣
 
She got progressively worse with the same droop.

Maybe you got it Carmen. Overwatering?

Some soggy waterlocked layer below?

Gave her a good shake and obviously its a cloudy day when I don’t want that so stuck the 200w 6500k spot on her. Then it started raining lightly so needed yo close the doors and move the light in.

The overflow is still dripping, a good few hours later so yeah probably? But how?

Guess Imma eating wait and see pudding!
 
Sorry Nick, this sucks. Is it possible that the light may shock the plant further rather than help? My thinking is that if I need sunglasses on an overcast day, then I don't believe the plant would be deprived of natural light. Is the rain getting in the pot?
 
NickHardy said:
Thanks Bluter! Very kind words! Mostly but then the plan is ever changing!

Woke up to this Azi! Organic they said, SIP they said, its easy they said 🤣

Just gonna leave her a few hours. See what happens then with some sun.

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Maybe Fusarium wilt? I've had it once many years ago. If she dies you can dissect the main root stem to see if there's any black mold(fusarium) in the center. Not many solution to the problem except using preventatives measures using fungicides like bacillus amyloliquefaciens and kelp extract.
 
NickHardy said:
Meh. I have a spare Red Hot Cookies downstairs. Probably change the design a little and go again with that.
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What changes are you thinking of?
 
Wastei said:
Maybe Fusarium wilt? I've had it once many years ago. If she dies you can dissect the main root stem to see if there's any black mold(fusarium) in the center. Not many solution to the problem except using preventatives measures using fungicides like bacillus amyloliquefaciens and kelp extract.
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You might be right Wastei. If you did its the legit most incredible spot I’ve ever read on this here board.

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This is a pepper plant suffering from Fusarium wilt.

This is my plant now:


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If you look on mine you can see the same yellowed leaves I’d put down to wind burn and general mal treatment in the storms.

But it would also explain the shoddy week roots, she shouldn’t be falling over in a pot that big at her size whatever the wind gusts really.

I’ll likely be digging her up and I suppose throwing the medium away and disinfecting tomorrow anyway. Be interesting to cut her open.

Chears bro, overwatering with the drainage in there just didn’t make sense.
 
Azimuth said:
What changes are you thinking of?
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Non SIP, Non Organic coco airpot 🤣

Fill the column with soil to wick better, remove the fine mesh, finally get the air holes drilled. 15 minutes work.

Take me longer to find some super soil and amendments and mix than to do that. - everything in there I’m going to toss.

Funny I was at a pepper farm in Kampot last month. Its what pops up first for examples of Fusarium wilt. That would be too extraordinary wouldn’t it?! I mean I do shower!
 
The way I see it - she was banging 20 days ago or something. Growth stalled. She wilted suddenly. I top watered and she perked up. Maybe i touched some root zone previously untouched that reinvigorated her. The medium is only 60% soil, the rest perlite, coco peat and amendments, rocks and stuff. It clearly drains well, it was running off for hours as the top watering made its way through.

But she hasn’t felt firm in the ground for the same period of time. We’ve had as normal really some squally type gusts and its never bothered an outdoor plant out there before. But some toot rot, likely was working its way through at this point, breaking those bonds that made her strong.

I mentioned roots this morning. We also had that weird CBD Warlock in the main grow just split in half and die about 6 weeks ago. Gonna wash the whole garage out with H2O2 before anything else gets potted for sure. Easy to do, just syphon it out the pool, there’s a grate.

Toss any and all open soil or coco packets.

Go again.
 
I think what has happened (now you mention the winds) is because of your loose soil mixture it wasn't solid enough to secure plant and wind would have been rocking plant back and forth in SIP and probably damaging the root and also creating an air gap beside trunk allowing the rot to set in . Aswell as poor wicking
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Technical term being “clusterfuck”?

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I’ve had plants out there 6 months in just coco peat. (One a 15 Gallon Airpot) I don’t see the lack of support from the medium being an issue. Coco peat feels more like soil than it does coco coir. I more mentioned it for why I don’t think it was overwatering though Carmen’s comment overwatering - still could be! Wait for the morrow and I’ll be chopping her up (downwind the house!)
 
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