New cannabis leaves growing spindly and are rolling in - What do I do?

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popolino77

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My auto berry autoflower is 19 days old above soil. The new leaves are growing curling down and spindly and are rolling in. I have not been over watering and i have not fed it any nutrients. Is it normal for a plant to look like this ? And if not whats wrong ? Also the plant has white hairs that are all ready turning orange whats going on
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I'm not an expert but it does look like overwatering to me. When did you last water it? Maybe the soil is not draining well enough. I have one plant that has pistils turning orange a little earlier than I'd like too and I think it's either genetics or the fact that it's sitting in the low corner of the tent where all my runoff pools and may be keeping it slightly wet / over watered.

Or what kind of soil is that? Maybe it's time to start feeding nutes, or check the pH of the water. More white pistils will continue to grow. I've never grown autos, but it looks a bit small for 19 days above ground. Could probably use more light.
 
Versai said:
I'm not an expert but it does look like overwatering to me. When did you last water it? Maybe the soil is not draining well enough. I have one plant that has pistils turning orange a little earlier than I'd like too and I think it's either genetics or the fact that it's sitting in the low corner of the tent where all my runoff pools and may be keeping it slightly wet / over watered.

Or what kind of soil is that? Maybe it's time to start feeding nutes, or check the pH of the water. More white pistils will continue to grow. I've never grown autos, but it looks a bit small for 19 days above ground. Could probably use more light.
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Im using roots organic original and i added perlite. Its planted in a 1 gallon fabric smart pot . my lighting is fine i grew eraly miss auto successfully But i used black gold natural & organic soil mixed with extra perlite. I over watered it in the begining but it looked like it recovered And i been watering when the soil drys out. I am vext rite now i am thinking about throwing this plant in the garbage and starting another seed. You think i should ?
 
How are you determining when the pot is dry? The finger test for example isn't that reliable. Emilya recently made a good post about watering and when:
The Proper Way to Water a Potted Plant

And I personally don't like perlite, it holds a ton of water. I think people mistakenly add it for drainage, but IMO it can make things worse.
You could call Roots Organic, maybe ask them about your problem or how long the soil nutrients last on average. It might be depleted of all its nutes and ready for manual feeding.
Sure, start another seed. But I wouldn't throw this one out. Keep it going as long as you have space for it, while you wait for the new one to grow. It might turn around. I'd let it get bone dry and when it's starting to wilt, give it a good pH'd feed.
 
Versai said:
How are you determining when the pot is dry? The finger test for example isn't that reliable. Emilya recently made a good post about watering and when:
The Proper Way to Water a Potted Plant

And I personally don't like perlite, it holds a ton of water. I think people mistakenly add it for drainage, but IMO it can make things worse.
You could call Roots Organic, maybe ask them about your problem or how long the soil nutrients last on average. It might be depleted of all its nutes and ready for manual feeding.
Sure, start another seed. But I wouldn't throw this one out. Keep it going as long as you have space for it, while you wait for the new one to grow. It might turn around. I'd let it get bone dry and when it's starting to wilt, give it a good pH'd feed.
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I just checked on the plant and the leaves are now pointing up which is a good sign but they are still rolling inwards. I have been searching online for what the problem is and it kind of looks like under watering. If it is under watering will the leaves recover and look normal again ?
 
The leaf curl you're seeing is commonly called "boating". This is indicative of over-watering.
I saw Versai's words about perlite retaining water and I kinda have to disagree (sorry V). Perlite holds very little water and much less (by far) than your standard soil. This is why we add it to our soil mixes. 1/4 perlite would be a min. for my soil mixes.
From the words and photos, I believe over-watering is the core of your issue.
 
got this off roots organic website
There is no need to fertilize for up to the first 21 days after planting. A light fertilizer may be added at planting time or thereafter depending upon the needs of the plant.
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So you're probably due to feed soon, but not until the pot is completely dry. If your roots are already damaged from overwatering it could take a few days longer than you think for them to drink through the bottom couple inches.
 
Tead said:
The leaf curl you're seeing is commonly called "boating". This is indicative of over-watering.
I saw Versai's words about perlite retaining water and I kinda have to disagree (sorry V). Perlite holds very little water and much less (by far) than your standard soil. This is why we add it to our soil mixes. 1/4 perlite would be a min. for my soil mixes.
From the words and photos, I believe over-watering is the core of your issue.
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I dont think i am over watering because the leaves point up a few hours after i water it. I think the problem mite be when i water it i am only watering it 6oz of water and i dont get any run off. My plant is in a 1 gallon smart pot
 
Tead said:
Soooooo... I'm guessing you're aware that you're "drawing outside the lines" hard with your watering routine.... yes?
Is there a reason (I'm guessing yes)?
'splain it to me Lucy!
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I dont think i am over watering it and i am definitely not watering to heavy. I only been watering it 4 to 6 oz of water at a time every other day when the soil is dry. Here is a picture of it a few hours after watering . i turned the color off on my camera because my led lights is on
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as you can see the leaves are pointing up just the new leaves are growing skiny and are rolling in or boating and they are curling down at the tips
 
Tead said:
Still looks like overwatering to my eye.
Every other day seems way too often for soil. Hell... I do passive hydro in pure perlite and don't water that often.
Your babie's roots really need to dry between waterings. This promotes healthy root growth and allows the soil to aerate some.


How are your heat and humidity?
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The temperature with my lights on is from 83 to 86 F with my lights off the temperature is from 75 to 78 F . i dont know the humidity . do you think my plant can recover from what ever is going on and look normal again ? And what do you think about its size ? It is a auto berry that supposed to be between 30 and 60cm when finished
 
Your temperatures are too high, but the bigger issue is probably your watering technique. Watering with small amounts of water every couple of days is a recipe for disaster, IMO.
 
Major PITA said:
Your temperatures are too high, but the bigger issue is probably your watering technique. Watering with small amounts of water every couple of days is a recipe for disaster, IMO.
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I just watered it yesterday my plan is to water it the day after tomorrow and water it untill i see run off. Is this a good idea ? And do you think my plant will survive untill then ?
 
popolino77 said:
The temperature with my lights on is from 83 to 86 F with my lights off the temperature is from 75 to 78 F . i dont know the humidity . do you think my plant can recover from what ever is going on and look normal again ? And what do you think about its size ? It is a auto berry that supposed to be between 30 and 60cm when finished
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Temps seem ok... a bit on the high side.
I can't speak to the size... never grown autos.
Can your plant recover... yes, of course. Will the damage have impact that may play out during the plant's growth... yes, unfortunately.
Humidity can be a significant player. Lower humidity can boost resin production. Higher humidity can lead to skinny leaves.
 
popolino77 said:
I just watered it yesterday my plan is to water it the day after tomorrow and water it untill i see run off. Is this a good idea ? And do you think my plant will survive untill then ?
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IMO, it is never a good idea to water on a set schedule. Why did you water yesterday? Why will you water the day after tomorrow?
Water when the plant needs it and not until then. Runoff is OK as long as your watering technique is correct. But you can very easily get lots of runoff and still have a plant with dry soil. If you water quickly, the water runs right through the medium and out the bottom. It takes time for the "soil sponge" to accept the new moisture. A better method is to put the pot in a larger container and soak from both the top and bottom, letting the plant sit in the water/nutrients for a few minutes. Now, once the pot will not hold any more, pull it out and let it drain well. Tip the pot to help it drain more, reducing the perched water table. Now let the plant and pot dry out before you repeat this procedure. Don't arbitrarily pick a day. It might take two days, or it might take two weeks.
 
Major PITA said:
IMO, it is never a good idea to water on a set schedule. Why did you water yesterday? Why will you water the day after tomorrow?
Water when the plant needs it and not until then. Runoff is OK as long as your watering technique is correct. But you can very easily get lots of runoff and still have a plant with dry soil. If you water quickly, the water runs right through the medium and out the bottom. It takes time for the "soil sponge" to accept the new moisture. A better method is to put the pot in a larger container and soak from both the top and bottom, letting the plant sit in the water/nutrients for a few minutes. Now, once the pot will not hold any more, pull it out and let it drain well. Tip the pot to help it drain more, reducing the perched water table. Now let the plant and pot dry out before you repeat this procedure. Don't arbitrarily pick a day. It might take two days, or it might take two weeks.
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Why are the new leaves at the top of the plant growing skiny ? If i correct the problem with my plant will the leaves start growing normal again ?
 
popolino77 said:
Why are the new leaves at the top of the plant growing skiny ? If i correct the problem with my plant will the leaves start growing normal again ?
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I can't be sure. Temperature, humidity, nutrients, watering can all affect the growth habit.
Yes - if you correct the problem, your plant will grow normally. The trick is to identify "the problem".
You may not have full control over the temp's and RH, but you can control watering and nutrients.
I'd try to bring the temp down a little, add a small dose of nutrients, and water correctly. See what happens.
 
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