NeoScott
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Hey guys nice to see you again.
So I'm trying to gather some information for my next grow and I have a few questions (at the end, First the info)
So this is going to be a slow build up to a single cola style grow on an 2*4 ebb and flow table that will become perpetual harvest after a few rounds.
Strain: Liberty haze, then Vanilla Kush, I figure if I have two strains going the mother plants will have a month to recover before I beat them down again.
Here my plan: Feel free to comment, make suggestions or just tell me I'm wrong. I hope to start in April.
April 1st: Seeds will go into paper towel to germinate.
April 2-5th: Seeds should have tap roots in this time and moved over to their home in the Rockwool cube and then into their new mother habitat (2x4 grow tent 600 watt MH light)
April 5th-26th: I will allow the mother plants 3 weeks to grow --OR-- I can spend this time training the plant(Low stress, super cropping, and topping)
April 26th Change over to water only on mother plants.
may 3rd (Or later): Pre-soak the Macro plugs or rapid rooter with Thrive alive B1 Red and AquaSheild
take some clones from the mothers till I have the 72 I need. place the clones into <cloning system not determined> sprayed with Thrive Alive B1 Green, dip ends in Rootech. Change mother plants back over to veg feed.
May 13th(Or when the clones are rooted): Place all required Rockwool cubes into table with aquasheild and Thrive alive B1 Red at pH 5.5 flood table over night before the clones enter the table, making sure that the run off is a pH of 6.0
at this point I will cover the top of the table with Mylar (Maybe Panda?) I will make 2 cuts every 4 inches in the shape of an X so the macro plugs or the rapid rooter can be plugged into the Rockwool cubes. Next would be actually inserting the clones into the Rockwool.
June 22nd: Mother plants change over to water only feed.
June 28th: Pre-soak macro plugs if required
June 29th: Take the next 72 clones for table 1, turn mothers back to Veg feed(1/3rd to 2/3rd to perfect level)
July 13th: Harvest table 1, clean entire grow room, tables, pumps ETC. Pre-soak new Rockwool cubes over night in table same as before. Start new Vanilla Kush in it's own units.
July 14th: start table 1 again.
August 7th: Run out and grab new equipment on this day or before. Change Vanillia Kush mother plants over to water only feed.
August 12th: Pre-soak Macro-plugs or rapid rooter.
August 13th : Clone 72 new clones for table 2
August 21st: Set up new equipment, run an overnight test.
August 22nd: Pre-soak Rockwool cubes like before
August 23rd: Apply panada/mylar move clones to pre-soaked Rockwool cube
August 28th: Change Liberty haze mother plants over to plain water
Sept 3rd: Pre-soak Macro plugs
Sept 4th:Clone, Change mothers back to veg feed
Sept 14th: Harvest table 1, Clean room complete tables and pumps, Then pre-soak Rockwool cube in table as before
Pretty much repeats the same cycle untill there are 4 tables, two with Liberty haze and two with Vanilla Kush.
Qustions:
1) I'm only getting 1 page of results when I search "Ebb and flow table single cola" and none of it's related to what I want so I ask now. I know this answer is based off how well I can grow, but I still need somewhere to start. If I need 72 clones per table, (feel free to guess) How many mother plants should I need? Last time I cloned I got 11 clones off 1 plant. My best guess would be 7-10 plants (Which I can do.)
2) My mother plants will be in a DWC system (The system I have now) The clones will move to an Aero-Cloner, or into rapid rooter plugs(Not sure how I would grow them, maybe just dome+tray) then to ebb and flow, Will the change in grow styles be to much for the plant and stress them out? Should I modify my current system to a ebb and flow for less stress(Wouldn't cost much)? Should I change over from a single reservoir to a bucket system where I would be able to control which plants get water only vs changing all of them over at once.
3) best method to training the plants for more clones? I'm thinking about topping them a few times then using low stress training to keep the branches down allowing more light into the plants to *Hopefully* grow more branches.
4) Right now I'm using the 10 part recipe for success kit from TechnaFlora. According to my leet math and deal finding skills I should be able to run the mother plant system and 1 table for about $200 every 8 weeks after taxes for the nuits only. Now, that being said a 2 part would be cheaper, my question is would sticking with the 10 part provide a larger yield compared to dropping down to a 2 stage? Is the yield increase going to be worth the extra money?
5) Would CO2 increase the amount I yield in this grow enough to justify buying a CO2 system? Someone have a good link to a lot of information on CO2? I'm not too interested in fucking with CO2 but if the yield increase is worth it then I see no reason not to, besides safety.
My brain just shut down so I'm going stop typing now.
So I'm trying to gather some information for my next grow and I have a few questions (at the end, First the info)
So this is going to be a slow build up to a single cola style grow on an 2*4 ebb and flow table that will become perpetual harvest after a few rounds.
Strain: Liberty haze, then Vanilla Kush, I figure if I have two strains going the mother plants will have a month to recover before I beat them down again.
Here my plan: Feel free to comment, make suggestions or just tell me I'm wrong. I hope to start in April.
April 1st: Seeds will go into paper towel to germinate.
April 2-5th: Seeds should have tap roots in this time and moved over to their home in the Rockwool cube and then into their new mother habitat (2x4 grow tent 600 watt MH light)
April 5th-26th: I will allow the mother plants 3 weeks to grow --OR-- I can spend this time training the plant(Low stress, super cropping, and topping)
April 26th Change over to water only on mother plants.
may 3rd (Or later): Pre-soak the Macro plugs or rapid rooter with Thrive alive B1 Red and AquaSheild
take some clones from the mothers till I have the 72 I need. place the clones into <cloning system not determined> sprayed with Thrive Alive B1 Green, dip ends in Rootech. Change mother plants back over to veg feed.
May 13th(Or when the clones are rooted): Place all required Rockwool cubes into table with aquasheild and Thrive alive B1 Red at pH 5.5 flood table over night before the clones enter the table, making sure that the run off is a pH of 6.0
at this point I will cover the top of the table with Mylar (Maybe Panda?) I will make 2 cuts every 4 inches in the shape of an X so the macro plugs or the rapid rooter can be plugged into the Rockwool cubes. Next would be actually inserting the clones into the Rockwool.
June 22nd: Mother plants change over to water only feed.
June 28th: Pre-soak macro plugs if required
June 29th: Take the next 72 clones for table 1, turn mothers back to Veg feed(1/3rd to 2/3rd to perfect level)
July 13th: Harvest table 1, clean entire grow room, tables, pumps ETC. Pre-soak new Rockwool cubes over night in table same as before. Start new Vanilla Kush in it's own units.
July 14th: start table 1 again.
August 7th: Run out and grab new equipment on this day or before. Change Vanillia Kush mother plants over to water only feed.
August 12th: Pre-soak Macro-plugs or rapid rooter.
August 13th : Clone 72 new clones for table 2
August 21st: Set up new equipment, run an overnight test.
August 22nd: Pre-soak Rockwool cubes like before
August 23rd: Apply panada/mylar move clones to pre-soaked Rockwool cube
August 28th: Change Liberty haze mother plants over to plain water
Sept 3rd: Pre-soak Macro plugs
Sept 4th:Clone, Change mothers back to veg feed
Sept 14th: Harvest table 1, Clean room complete tables and pumps, Then pre-soak Rockwool cube in table as before
Pretty much repeats the same cycle untill there are 4 tables, two with Liberty haze and two with Vanilla Kush.
Qustions:
1) I'm only getting 1 page of results when I search "Ebb and flow table single cola" and none of it's related to what I want so I ask now. I know this answer is based off how well I can grow, but I still need somewhere to start. If I need 72 clones per table, (feel free to guess) How many mother plants should I need? Last time I cloned I got 11 clones off 1 plant. My best guess would be 7-10 plants (Which I can do.)
2) My mother plants will be in a DWC system (The system I have now) The clones will move to an Aero-Cloner, or into rapid rooter plugs(Not sure how I would grow them, maybe just dome+tray) then to ebb and flow, Will the change in grow styles be to much for the plant and stress them out? Should I modify my current system to a ebb and flow for less stress(Wouldn't cost much)? Should I change over from a single reservoir to a bucket system where I would be able to control which plants get water only vs changing all of them over at once.
3) best method to training the plants for more clones? I'm thinking about topping them a few times then using low stress training to keep the branches down allowing more light into the plants to *Hopefully* grow more branches.
4) Right now I'm using the 10 part recipe for success kit from TechnaFlora. According to my leet math and deal finding skills I should be able to run the mother plant system and 1 table for about $200 every 8 weeks after taxes for the nuits only. Now, that being said a 2 part would be cheaper, my question is would sticking with the 10 part provide a larger yield compared to dropping down to a 2 stage? Is the yield increase going to be worth the extra money?
5) Would CO2 increase the amount I yield in this grow enough to justify buying a CO2 system? Someone have a good link to a lot of information on CO2? I'm not too interested in fucking with CO2 but if the yield increase is worth it then I see no reason not to, besides safety.
My brain just shut down so I'm going stop typing now.
