Need help she's sick
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Looks like an old fashioned nutrient burn to my eyes.
We actually need a lot more info to help you. It's a bit like going to the doctors office... we ask lots of questions, stroke our wisened gray beards a couple of times, then pontificate about your woes and harken back to similar woes we've encountered. Sometimes we include really cheesy jokes... kinda like this one.
Anyway..... welcome, you'll find friendly folk and many words of wisdom.
To formalize the doctoral discussion a bit, please review the instruction at the root of this forum about how to ask for grow support.
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We really do need all that info just to begin to help you. They'll be many more specific questions after you give us the base facts.
We actually need a lot more info to help you. It's a bit like going to the doctors office... we ask lots of questions, stroke our wisened gray beards a couple of times, then pontificate about your woes and harken back to similar woes we've encountered. Sometimes we include really cheesy jokes... kinda like this one.
Anyway..... welcome, you'll find friendly folk and many words of wisdom.
To formalize the doctoral discussion a bit, please review the instruction at the root of this forum about how to ask for grow support.
How to Ask for Grow Support (<< Linky Linky Baby!)
We really do need all that info just to begin to help you. They'll be many more specific questions after you give us the base facts.
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What Strain is it? no idea
Is it Indica, Sativa or Hybrid? What percentages? no idea
How Many Plants? 2
Is it in Vegetative or Flowering Stage? early flowering
If in Flowering Stage... How Long? about a week
Indoor or Outdoor? indoor
Soil or Hydro? soil
If Soil... What is in your Mix? idk just say in the bag green mix
If Soil... What Size Pot? 7 liter
Size (Wattage) of Light? How Many? 1 ufo 150w red and blue
Is it Air Cooled? 1 20cm fun
Temperature of Room/Cabinet? 20-26
RH of Room/Cabinet? whats RH?
Any Pests? no
How Often are you Watering? when the soil is dry about a week
Type and Strength of Fertilizers used? biobizz grow and biobizz heaven
Size or Square Footage of Room? 56x56 cm wide and 2m high
Is it Indica, Sativa or Hybrid? What percentages? no idea
How Many Plants? 2
Is it in Vegetative or Flowering Stage? early flowering
If in Flowering Stage... How Long? about a week
Indoor or Outdoor? indoor
Soil or Hydro? soil
If Soil... What is in your Mix? idk just say in the bag green mix
If Soil... What Size Pot? 7 liter
Size (Wattage) of Light? How Many? 1 ufo 150w red and blue
Is it Air Cooled? 1 20cm fun
Temperature of Room/Cabinet? 20-26
RH of Room/Cabinet? whats RH?
Any Pests? no
How Often are you Watering? when the soil is dry about a week
Type and Strength of Fertilizers used? biobizz grow and biobizz heaven
Size or Square Footage of Room? 56x56 cm wide and 2m high
What.... no side chatter about the humorous epitome?!?!
I see you're a down to brass tacks kinda grower.... excellent. Let's get grower nerdy!
I'll assume by your answers that you're not growing an auto-flower (Cannabis ruderalis for you nerdish ones).
2 plants.... same on both?
Your watering schedule and response to the soil mix question tells me that you're just using soil from the garden store without alteration. This far from optimal. Next time, at the very least, you'll need to lighten the soil up some. Most folks mix in about 20% perlite to lighten the mix. The percentage changes based on how thick your soil is. You really want to get it thinned out enough that the soil in your pots will fully dry within a few days. This will allow more air to the roots of your plant. MJ really wants a wet/dry cycle with a good amount of time for the roots to dry out between waterings/feedings. Are you using soil that has time release nutrients in it already? The soil medium is very important. There are books written on the subject.
RH stands for Relative Humidity. 35% is your rule of thumb target for flowering.
Your cabinet seems a bit cool. My target is 80f during lighting and no less than 70f during the dark period.
What about the PH of the water you're feeding them? The PH of my tap water is WAY too high to use without alteration.
I wouldn't feed them any more until you get a handle on this issue. If it is a nutrient burn, you'll burn them right up.
I see you're a down to brass tacks kinda grower.... excellent. Let's get grower nerdy!
I'll assume by your answers that you're not growing an auto-flower (Cannabis ruderalis for you nerdish ones).
2 plants.... same on both?
Your watering schedule and response to the soil mix question tells me that you're just using soil from the garden store without alteration. This far from optimal. Next time, at the very least, you'll need to lighten the soil up some. Most folks mix in about 20% perlite to lighten the mix. The percentage changes based on how thick your soil is. You really want to get it thinned out enough that the soil in your pots will fully dry within a few days. This will allow more air to the roots of your plant. MJ really wants a wet/dry cycle with a good amount of time for the roots to dry out between waterings/feedings. Are you using soil that has time release nutrients in it already? The soil medium is very important. There are books written on the subject.
RH stands for Relative Humidity. 35% is your rule of thumb target for flowering.
Your cabinet seems a bit cool. My target is 80f during lighting and no less than 70f during the dark period.
What about the PH of the water you're feeding them? The PH of my tap water is WAY too high to use without alteration.
I wouldn't feed them any more until you get a handle on this issue. If it is a nutrient burn, you'll burn them right up.
Stealthboat
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150W for 2 plants isn't much, you usually want 150W per plant, just an fyi. ph for soil should be 6.5-6.8, I'd fix this first and foremost. 2ml/L seems like a lot, depends how often you feed them though. You also need to switch from the Grow nutes to the Bloom one which is higher in phosphorous than nitrogen. You only water once a week? The roots might be too wet and perhaps root rot is setting in, I'd add more perlite to your soil next time to improve drainage and allow for more frequent waterings, maybe a mix of 30% perlite to 70% soil. I see some slightly burned tips so they definitely have enough macronutrients, but what do you use for micronutrients like calcium, zinc, boron, etc. ? Just the Heaven stuff?
All good words Stealthboat. Especially the ones about fixing the PH first. You really can't even see if there is a nutrient issue until you address any extreme ph issues.
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ok... first im sorry about the none side chatting and for the completely ignoring the humorous epitome.. i was in a hurry when i wrote the last post.
anyway to your questions.....
this plant in the pic is just from a really good weed that i smoked and i found the seed in it so i dont know what strain it is
but the other one is a feminized auto strain dont really know the exact strain but you can really see that she is much lower then the first one so i boosted her a bit with a brick
i have used same soil, pot, fertilizer and same everything on both of them
the soil i use is already mixed which contains Quality peat, coconut fiber, tuff, ventilation materials slow-release fertilizers
it doesnt say more then that...
the ph of my tap water is 7.5-8, i understood that the ph of water when i pour it to the soil is 7 and make the soil ph about 6.5
before i water the plant i leave the water in a open bottle for at least 24h to make the chlorine evaporate and to get air in it(you actually can see the bubbles).
the relative humidity is 35% to 46%
im doing the best i can to keep the cabinet warm but it little hard when the temp outside is 0c to 10c
so it still 20c to 26c (maybe that explain the purple stalk that you can see in the second pic)
i water them something like once a week and feed them by the biobizz instructions for the first and the second week of flowering 2ml/L of each every second watering, and yes only bio-grow and bio-heaven
anyway to your questions.....
this plant in the pic is just from a really good weed that i smoked and i found the seed in it so i dont know what strain it is
but the other one is a feminized auto strain dont really know the exact strain but you can really see that she is much lower then the first one so i boosted her a bit with a brick
i have used same soil, pot, fertilizer and same everything on both of them
the soil i use is already mixed which contains Quality peat, coconut fiber, tuff, ventilation materials slow-release fertilizers
it doesnt say more then that...
the ph of my tap water is 7.5-8, i understood that the ph of water when i pour it to the soil is 7 and make the soil ph about 6.5
before i water the plant i leave the water in a open bottle for at least 24h to make the chlorine evaporate and to get air in it(you actually can see the bubbles).
the relative humidity is 35% to 46%
im doing the best i can to keep the cabinet warm but it little hard when the temp outside is 0c to 10c
so it still 20c to 26c (maybe that explain the purple stalk that you can see in the second pic)
i water them something like once a week and feed them by the biobizz instructions for the first and the second week of flowering 2ml/L of each every second watering, and yes only bio-grow and bio-heaven
Stealthboat
New Member
So you have a medium which is mainly peat moss? That's considered hydro so you want your ph lower than 6.5 I'd say, maybe aim for 6.2 and see what happens. I'd try something to raise the temps even if I had to buy a space heater. Now that I know you don't have any nutes for Flower you should get some right away, ones higher in phosphorous than nitrogen or potassium. It might even be a phosphorous deficiency. Can't see any other problems at the moment
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i dont know whats the ratio of this mix but it looks like peat moss
how can i lower the ph?
i took care of the heat and the nute
but whats the recomended ratio of the nute?
i dont want to burn it again..
also i noticed stun growth a bit, is this supposed to happen when swiching to flower stage? or as a result of nute burn?
how can i lower the ph?
i took care of the heat and the nute
but whats the recomended ratio of the nute?
i dont want to burn it again..
also i noticed stun growth a bit, is this supposed to happen when swiching to flower stage? or as a result of nute burn?
