MrBubbles Perpetual Grow

[KingJohnC]

congratulations on your harvest!

 

[mrbubbles87]

congratulations on your harvest!

Thanks!

 

[GeorgeFoster]

Congrats on the harvest and thanks for the detailed pics.

 

[mrbubbles87]

Congrats on the harvest and thanks for the detailed pics.

Thanks!

 

[mrbubbles87]

Hey guys, I recently received some meds from a dispensary for my father in law and we're unsure how to dose them correctly and which ones will be most effective. I posted a separate thread under the medical section but here's the post:

I need your guys help. My father in law was recently diagnosed with stage 3 liver cancer. He has 2 tumors on his liver and 1 on his spleen each about 5cm long. The cause appears to be hep c and hep b but he is a pretty big drinker as well. His doctors are not able to do anything for him. They said all we can do is palliative care which is just making him as comfortable as possible. They've given a worse case of 3 mos letting. I have some experience dealing with cancer/terminal illnesses. I have never seen it affect someone so quickly. He was diagnosed 3 weeks ago and hasn't undergone any treatment yet he's lost a lot of weight and is struggling to way and sleep. They did give my wife a prescription card for a medication called Viread. I looked this up online and it's supposed to slow the progression of HIV. Maybe this would help slow the growth of tumors as well? The card the doc gave us says a $0 co pay up to $200 savings per mo. This medication costs $800 which means we would have to spend over $600 per month to get him a medication that will hardly do anything except make him feel worse with tons of bad side effects. We have been trying to give him as much cannabis as we can. Mainly a joint for him to a take home at a time because we don't have a lot of supply yet. I'm working on expanding my grow to produce enough to make a batch of RSO but that's months down the road. In the meantime we had a friend in CO send us a care package. It had a huge variety of diff products for him to try which were really excited about. We didn't even have to pay anything for them and based on my research it doesn't look cheap. First they included lozenges which have 100mg THC+CBD. They're from Gaia's Garden and called a Level 6 whatever that means. My wife and I took one this morning to test them. Want to make sure we don't mess him up too much seem now he has 0 tolerance right now. I'm not feeling much maybe a slight buzz but I have a super high tolerancy. Guessing it will be fine for him but not sure how effective it will be for his cancer and related symptoms. Secondly, they included a couple different edible bars. I apologize I don't have the details on those with me now but I can provide those later. The last thing he sent, and what I think will be most effective on his tumors is a tincture from Sweet Mary Jane that contains 150mg THC and 150mg CBD with a 1:1 ratio. The problem is I'm not sure how this compares to RSO. For example just because they put a total of 300mg of oil into the glycerine that doesn't tell us the potency of the oil itself. Considering this tincture costs about $50 and the RSO syringes I've found online can get into the thousands I'm assuming there is not nearly as high of a potency. I'm just trying to buy 3-4 months while I grow a 4x4 SOG of Medicann Blue Blood (10%CBD and 15%THC) and CBD Crew Critical Mass (5%CBD and 5%THC). Then I'm hoping to make RSO. Can anyone help me out with how to dose this meds and how effective you think they'll be against his cancer?

 

[mrbubbles87]

Ultra Sour Harvest!

I decided to harvest my Ultra Sour last night. The test branches have been excellent and I need more space. As you can see by the pics we already harvested quite a few "test" branches already lol.

This strain is skunky, spicy, and woodsy. Almost 180 degrees difference from the blue OG which is really fruity. Very potent and already tasting amazing after just a quick hang dry. Really looking forward to the cured buds. What I really like about this strain is the buds are huge balls no pun intended lmao. I'm hoping for 1-1/2 to 2oz of dried product.

I decided to leave a few popcorn buds on the bottom just to see if they do anything lol. I also included a pic of the flower tent. If you look closely you should see the monster wild Thai and agent o in 5 gal buckets in the back

Here's a few pics before and after:

 

[josh223]

Is your cloner a Clone King? Just wondering.

 

[KingJohnC]

if you are looking for dosage information there is some information in this thread

Cancer Cured With Cannabis Oil

 

[mrbubbles87]

Is your cloner a Clone King? Just wondering.

Yes it is a 36 site clone king. Think I paid about $60 for it. It's well worth the money. I have had a 100% success rates with it.

 

[josh223]

I thought so. I have two of the 36 siters. Do you do anything besides follow the directions. Seems I either have great runs or poor runs.

 

[mrbubbles87]

if you are looking for dosage information there is some information in this thread Cancer Cured With Cannabis Oil

Great info KC! I'm wondering if this RSO would be dabbable also. I know by using ISO your going to get chlorophyll in it but Im still wondering if we can dual purpose the meds for ourselves and for his cancer.

Also, I'm still unsure of how RSO compareS to the Sweet Mary Jane 1:1 150mg THC/150mg CBD. We have two vials of this plus various edibles and were unsure if this will be effective while we try to grow enough to make an effective dose of RSO. Any thoughts on this?

Thanks for all the help!

 

[mrbubbles87]

I thought so. I have two of the 36 siters. Do you do anything besides follow the directions. Seems I either have great runs or poor runs.

I don't do anything lol. Usually I cut a 45degree angle on the bottom and dip it in clone powder. I don't add anything to the water and only need to top it off once every couple weeks.

I've gotten so confident with it sometimes I don't even use the powder. I just cut my angle and don't scrape or split my stem. It def makes me miss hydro lol.

I might be jumping on the coco bus soon here. Almost out of soil and there's nothing local this time of the year. Shipping on coco is cheap. How far can you stretch coco? For example I'm looking at 2.5cu brick. How many gallons would that equal? Also, do you need to add anything like perlite, lime, guano?

 

[josh223]

I'm not sure. I haven't used it before. Like you I've been considering it. There's a company called Pure Essentials Black label. They have something called the Essential Mix. Prewashed, not a compressed brick, and comes in a 70% Coco 30% perlite mix and a 50% 50%.

 

[mrbubbles87]

I'm not sure. I haven't used it before. Like you I've been considering it. There's a company called Pure Essentials Black label. They have something called the Essential Mix. Prewashed, not a compressed brick, and comes in a 70% Coco 30% perlite mix and a 50% 50%.

My bad for some reason I thought you were using coco in your hempy buckets lol.

I really want to get into super soil and high brix but I just don't have the time/money for it right now. Plus I still have quite a bit of my FF nutes left anyways. If it was springtime I'd just go for more soil but it's not so I can't find anything worth buying locally. Thinking its a perfect opportunity to try out this coco everyone's talking about. I do miss hydro

Any thoughts on veg time for the 2L/1gal soil SOG plants? Obviously longer is better but I don't want to outgrow the pots either.

I'm still hoping to build a 2x4' table but it still hasn't warmed up much. -20 today with the wind chill lol

 

[josh223]

I'm still in 75% perlite 25% perlite. It seems to work for now.

I first heard of the concept on here. I'm just copying what the guy did as far as media and zero veg time. Been having some cloning issues as of late. I have two Holy Grail Kush clones that were held in veg for like 3 1/2 weeks. That seems to be a good amount of veg for that strain. I just don't have the room to veg a ton of Hempy pots.

The guy that invented the technique eventually went to straight perlite then onto coco. He also prefers something like a 3 gallon bucket over the two liter. My first grow with the Hempys I grew some A train that took like 89 days to finish. They were around 4' tall. I examined the roots post harvest. There was still some room for more roots, but not much.

I think the veg time is really determined by the strain and how happy they are in their environment. My last grow I tried using 3.5 gallon bathroom waste baskets (Holy Grail). I gave them two weeks of veg. They could have benefited from....I'd say another three weeks. I'm limited to 6' total vertical height to I had to give them the flip.

I'd love to have the room for a drain table. The hand watering and clean up is the only downside I've found with Hempy Pots. Infact, I should have watered my flowering tent last night but my back hurt too much. Stooping on concrete after packing a 5 gallon bucket of nutes down a flight of stairs does me in. I'd love to have, heck, even a 12'x12' bedroom to grow in. Have a couple drain to waste tables and a self watering system. Yeah, someday...

 

[KingJohnC]

Great info KC! I'm wondering if this RSO would be dabbable also. I know by using ISO your going to get chlorophyll in it but Im still wondering if we can dual purpose the meds for ourselves and for his cancer.

Also, I'm still unsure of how RSO compareS to the Sweet Mary Jane 1:1 150mg THC/150mg CBD. We have two vials of this plus various edibles and were unsure if this will be effective while we try to grow enough to make an effective dose of RSO. Any thoughts on this?

Thanks for all the help!

Cannabis oil can be smoked, it was popular when i was younger. I am unsure if any of the cancer fighting properties are still passed along when smoked.

 

[mrbubbles87]

Cannabis oil can be smoked, it was popular when i was younger. I am unsure if any of the cancer fighting properties are still passed along when smoked.

I'm sure it would be smokable but there's a big difference from being able to smoke it and being able to dab it lol. Basically it needs to be completely full melt.

And trust me, if you don't know already, cannabis oil/concentrates is taking over everything. The 710 (OIL) cup in Denver is more anticipated than the cannabis cup.

I've read the majority of the cancer fighting properties can be passed while smoked/vaped but you need to ingest it to be able to get the full benefits. Rick Simpson talks about using cannabis for cancer prevention as well as a cure. I've always been curious what the statistics are for cannabis users vs non cannabis user cancer rates. If the majority of pot smokers are not getting cancer I think that would be proof in itself. Unfortunately there's so much conflicting information it's hard to decipher what's true and what's myth.

 

[CA215]

I think you could smoke rso, but it would be harsh brotha. RSO still contains some "solvent" (whatever you use) unless you can vac purge your stuff, and then there is still some minute traces left over. I would personally opt for eating the rso, even for you mrbub it would be good, keeps us healthy. I suggest ya read on some qwiso, I have done it a few times and have got some killer meds, although, a little harsh as I have no purge. It is the cheapest and safest way I have found for extraction (except for bubble bags).
I would start your pops off on that 1:1 mix you have, small dosed to get his cannabinoid system up to balance. Even have him eat some fan leaves, all this pumps up our cannabinoids in our system. The more I read about the endocannabinoid system the more my mouth drops open! Need to give the thread a good look over mr bub just stopping in for a quick reply. Stay well buddy! CA

Edit: The way and material used is going to depend on if it is dabbable or not, but on a good note, everytime I did qwiso I got a product I would dab just make sure to do some major research if you are planning on extraction, or send me a PM and I can give you a list of do's and don't I have found

 

[mrbubbles87]

I'm still in 75% perlite 25% perlite. It seems to work for now. I first heard of the concept on here. I'm just copying what the guy did as far as media and zero veg time. Been having some cloning issues as of late. I have two Holy Grail Kush clones that were held in veg for like 3 1/2 weeks. That seems to be a good amount of veg for that strain. I just don't have the room to veg a ton of Hempy pots. The guy that invented the technique eventually went to straight perlite then onto coco. He also prefers something like a 3 gallon bucket over the two liter. My first grow with the Hempys I grew some A train that took like 89 days to finish. They were around 4' tall. I examined the roots post harvest. There was still some room for more roots, but not much. I think the veg time is really determined by the strain and how happy they are in their environment. My last grow I tried using 3.5 gallon bathroom waste baskets (Holy Grail). I gave them two weeks of veg. They could have benefited from....I'd say another three weeks. I'm limited to 6' total vertical height to I had to give them the flip. I'd love to have the room for a drain table. The hand watering and clean up is the only downside I've found with Hempy Pots. Infact, I should have watered my flowering tent last night but my back hurt too much. Stooping on concrete after packing a 5 gallon bucket of nutes down a flight of stairs does me in. I'd love to have, heck, even a 12'x12' bedroom to grow in. Have a couple drain to waste tables and a self watering system. Yeah, someday...

Gonna do some shopping this weekend. Either gonna build a basic organic soil or get coco depending on what I find.

The only thing I've had trouble with on my cloner is the sprayers. Sure you've checked but if you haven't try running it and seeing if all your sprayers are working. I still haven't been able to unclog all mine. Should've never tried using big bloom in there lol. I can get it mostly cleared by spraying water through the PVC but still only about half of my sprayers are working and I'm still getting 100% success rates.

Think I'm formulating my plan. I've rearranged my veg tent again lol. I took out the shelf, humidifier, and cloner. This allowed me to put all my plants on the ground and lower my lights much closer. I was having super slow growth rates cuz my lights were at least 2 ft above the bottom plants. My plan is to go straight from the cloner to 2L/1gal containers. Going to veg in these for 1 month. Then transplant to 3 gals to flower. I can grow 16 of these in a 4x4 section averaging 1oz-1 1/2oz per plant maybe even more depending on strain. I can fit over 30 of the 1 gal pots in my veg tent so I can break it up into 2 week cycles. I'll harvest 8 and move 8 new ones approximately every 2 weeks. Then once I get a second light I'll install the shelf in my veg tent and be able to veg 30 more on the shelf and duplicate the 3gal SOG in the other 4x4 section. If needed I can even increase veg time because my tent is 7' tall.


I decided to go this route for a few reasons. I didn't like the aspect of having to water that many plants. My garden is already becoming a part time job. Watering isn't very convenient. I have to walk halfway across the house. I'm running multiple strains which would only be further complicated by more plants. Also, I was somewhat disappointed with my recent harvest. I ended up with about 1-1/2oz off my Blue OG. Not a bad pull for her size but after my 3-1/2oz agent O it definitely made me realize that even smaller plants would be more disappointing. I realize the math is there but I'm a visual person. We'll see how it works out. I'll prolly have a new plan by tonight lol.

Eventually I plan on having 4x4 flood tables, auto drip feeders, 5gal smart pots and an auto filling RO reservoir. I want the convenience and growth rates of an auto hydro system but with the quality of organic soil. Maybe income tax time?!

 

[mrbubbles87]

I think you could smoke rso, but it would be harsh brotha. RSO still contains some "solvent" (whatever you use) unless you can vac purge your stuff, and then there is still some minute traces left over. I would personally opt for eating the rso, even for you mrbub it would be good, keeps us healthy. I suggest ya read on some qwiso, I have done it a few times and have got some killer meds, although, a little harsh as I have no purge. It is the cheapest and safest way I have found for extraction (except for bubble bags). I would start your pops off on that 1:1 mix you have, small dosed to get his cannabinoid system up to balance. Even have him eat some fan leaves, all this pumps up our cannabinoids in our system. The more I read about the endocannabinoid system the more my mouth drops open! Need to give the thread a good look over mr bub just stopping in for a quick reply. Stay well buddy! CA Edit: The way and material used is going to depend on if it is dabbable or not, but on a good note, everytime I did qwiso I got a product I would dab just make sure to do some major research if you are planning on extraction, or send me a PM and I can give you a list of do's and don't I have found

Thanks for the great info as usual! Pm'd ya!