MrBubbles Perpetual Grow

[Doc Bud]

No disrespect meant and not trying to bash your reputation. You obviously grow amazing bud with your high brix that is why I contacted you in the first place to see about your kit that everyone is raving about.

Sorry if you took what I said the wrong way, but no need to get defensive. I did not even say anything other then you did not reply back to my email.

The circle of trust thing is just a joke, sheesh. Sorry, I should of put a in there to make it sound like it.

I don't go around bashing people you can look at all my previous post's. I am sorry if I offended you

This is the PM I sent you on 7/14/2013


Doc,

Hey man I was reading over Curso's log for a bit and was pretty amazed at how his grow turned out with your kit. I am just curious as to what I need to do to get my hands on that kit of yours? Would love to follow your directions and give it a go on my next grow.


If you want to discuss it further just go ahead and PM me.

For whatever reason, I never received your PM, but I'm happy to respond to it again. Please PM me if you wish to discuss the kit.

I always answer them! Always!

 

[mrbubbles87]

Update:

I recently finished harvesting my agent O. I ended up staggering it out over a week. I estimate total flower time was about 9 weeks.

I dried it for about 3 days before putting it into jars. My humidity is only about 30% right now. Most of the buds are quite a bit fluffier or airier then I would like but other than that I've got no complaints.

I ended up with a dry weight of 44 grams so far and that doesn't include the few branches we smoked early or the gigantic main cola. Safe to say I easily passed my estimate of an ounce and a half. I'm predicting 2 and a half ounces once I include the dry weight of my main cola. This is my largest harvest to date so I'm pretty stoked.

The agent O smells very unique. It's almost like an orange diesel. It's very smooth. We have to be careful where we carry it though because you can smell it from a long ways away lol. Not sure if this strain is a lot better than my autos, if I grew it better, or if it's because this plant is seedless but it's a huge improvement.

I am starting to think I my not be a big fan of the diesel strains. I always liked them before when I bought bags but now that I'm smoking a lot more of it consistently I'm not liking it as much. I'm more into fruity strains like bubblegum funk, blue berry, tooty fruity, etc... I have yet to grow and of these her though. I've got quite a few strains crossed with blue berry but the skunky/diesel cross takes away from the fruitiness. Who knows it could just be grower error lol.

I did make some infused olive oil with the trim. So far we've made brownies and sugar cookies. Both turned out pretty good but I do prefer butter over oil. Next time ill do a batch of butter and canola oil. I just need more trim.

Here's some pics of the harvest:

Not much to update with the rest of the girls. Clones are all doing great. Haven't lost one yet. I did rearrange things in the flower tent now that im dealing with shorter plants but that's about it for now.

Thanks for following and keep it growing guys!

 

[Doc Bud]

That's a really nice harvest! Congrats!

 

[CA215]

What a cola! Are you pleased with letting it go longer than the rest? Did she start any bulky/different smells? Looks like some mighty fine smoke there mrbub! Very nice photography as well. I think I might look into some Vietnam beans.. I keep hearing more and more all over the place about this strain.. I need to smell this orange fruity goodness Definitely going on my strain list buddy! +reps

 

[mrbubbles87]

That's a really nice harvest! Congrats!

Thanks doc!

 

[mrbubbles87]

What a cola! Are you pleased with letting it go longer than the rest? Did she start any bulky/different smells? Looks like some mighty fine smoke there mrbub! Very nice photography as well. I think I might look into some Vietnam beans.. I keep hearing more and more all over the place about this strain.. I need to smell this orange fruity goodness Definitely going on my strain list buddy! +reps

Thanks!

Honestly I'm not sure about whether letting it go longer benefited it or not lol. Harvesting it branch by branch may have stressed the plant causing growth to stop. It does seem like it densed up quite a bit tho or maybe that's my imagination The main reason I let it go a little longer was to flush it longer. I ended up chopping it a little earlier cuz I was starting to wonder if the THC was starting to degrade. I noticed the bud wasn't getting any larger, it wasn't gaining anymore crystals, and it wasn't gaining anymore red hairs. Who knows maybe it could've went another 2 weeks. Can't wait to get a sweet USB microscope like yours. Then I'll be able to harvest a lot more accurately.

And remember its Vietnam. We don't wanna get in trouble lol. Plus I'm starting to wonder if it is this strain. It's definitely smells like very strong oranges but also like a hint of diesel. Kinda of like an orange flavored sour D? This is what I hate about bagseed. It's not the fear of getting bad genetics. It's the fear of getting really good genetics and not knowing what they are lol. My buddy says it was from a dispensary bag he got but stoners forget and he may be wrong. It's definitely unique. I've smoke tons of different strains over 15 years and have never come across something so orangey. Now that I think about it I'm not sure I've ever had an orange flavored strain lmao.

I'm starting to get really excited about my blue OG. Less than a month left. She smells amazing and is really starting to plump up. I'll try to do another update soon with my other flowering strains. I've still got an Ultrasour , Dinachem (chemdawg), and Blue Thai

 

[CA215]

Thanks!

Honestly I'm not sure about whether letting it go longer benefited it or not lol. Harvesting it branch by branch may have stressed the plant causing growth to stop. It does seem like it densed up quite a bit tho or maybe that's my imagination The main reason I let it go a little longer was to flush it longer. I ended up chopping it a little earlier cuz I was starting to wonder if the THC was starting to degrade. I noticed the bud wasn't getting any larger, it wasn't gaining anymore crystals, and it wasn't gaining anymore red hairs. Who knows maybe it could've went another 2 weeks. Can't wait to get a sweet USB microscope like yours. Then I'll be able to harvest a lot more accurately.

And remember its Vietnam. We don't wanna get in trouble lol. Plus I'm starting to wonder if it is this strain. It's definitely smells like very strong oranges but also like a hint of diesel. Kinda of like an orange flavored sour D? This is what I hate about bagseed. It's not the fear of getting bad genetics. It's the fear of getting really good genetics and not knowing what they are lol. My buddy says it was from a dispensary bag he got but stoners forget and he may be wrong. It's definitely unique. I've smoke tons of different strains over 15 years and have never come across something so orangey. Now that I think about it I'm not sure I've ever had an orange flavored strain lmao.

I'm starting to get really excited about my blue OG. Less than a month left. She smells amazing and is really starting to plump up. I'll try to do another update soon with my other flowering strains. I've still got an Ultrasour , Dinachem (chemdawg), and Blue Thai

Vietnam, my condolences community I know what you mean, I noticed that on betsy when I was doing the partial harvests, she took a good 3-4 days to actually get back on track with plumping, taking a lb off her at a time was OK but probably wasn't the best idea in my situation Although bagseed, he could have been in the ball park, with your smoke reports and the smells you are getting off her it sounds like some Vietnam, I have yet to encounter that orange distinct bud! Always find the lemony, or the grape stuff Keep the girl cloned although the smoke might not be your favorite, it sounds like a nice tasty weekend, morning smoke Your reminding girls look very nice, I love the structure of plants without a lot of training, au natraul Is the blue thai girl on the right side of the tent, the one looking like its about to start going into mad plump time?

 

[CA215]

My internet just lagged out for a double post.. 4 minutes later LOL. +reps to you mrbub

 

[mrbubbles87]

Vietnam, my condolences community I know what you mean, I noticed that on betsy when I was doing the partial harvests, she took a good 3-4 days to actually get back on track with plumping, taking a lb off her at a time was OK but probably wasn't the best idea in my situation Although bagseed, he could have been in the ball park, with your smoke reports and the smells you are getting off her it sounds like some A O, I have yet to encounter that orange distinct bud! Always find the lemony, or the grape stuff Keep the girl cloned although the smoke might not be your favorite, it sounds like a nice tasty weekend, morning smoke Your reminding girls look very nice, I love the structure of plants without a lot of training, au natraul Is the blue thai girl on the right side of the tent, the one looking like its about to start going into mad plump time?

I don't think it was possible to properly harvest all of Betsy in one go lol. I never have it more than 3 days between branches so maybe I didn't give her enough time to recover.

I've tried researching online and to my great surprise there are tons of orange crosses. Never tried any myself. I've heard that agent o is by far the strongest orange smelling strain out there but I also read it should smell like liquor and orange where mine smells like orange/diesel. Hard to say tho cuz as it cures in the jar the smell is changing. I have another Vietnam about 3 weeks into flower and a mother in the veg tent The problem is I may have to cut back from 7 to 6 strains. Thinking the wild Thai may have to go after it's first harvest cuz it's a 10 week where all my others are 8 weeks. Who knows maybe ill just get a bigger veg tent. Starting to realize that a 2x4 veg tent and a 4x8 flower tent will only work out well with a SOG. The furthest two on the right are Ultrasour and Blue OG. My blue thai is BUSHY! Taking awhile to flower but her leaves are super healthy. Usually I defol a bit but with her she just seems natural with lots of leaves.

I know what you mean about au naturale. That's what I prefer also but I'm starting to realize going forward I may have to LST in order to get the most bang for my buck. After my next harvest I'll know for sure. If I can get 2oz min off the blue gf that proves to me that the smaller LST plants will be a better option for my current setup. In the future I want to grow monsters!

 

[mrbubbles87]

My internet just lagged out for a double post.. 4 minutes later LOL. +reps to you mrbub

Thanks for the reps!

 

[shottafire]

Your colas look similar to one of the phenos that I recall having.

Great little grow by the way and congrats. I will see if I can dig up a couple of pics to show you.

It is so orangey and everyone you let smell it will be overwhelmed with that strain. Great strain to smoke early get out and live for the day and finish the day with a heavy.

cheers mr bubbs

 

[mrbubbles87]

Your colas look similar to one of the phenos that I recall having. Great little grow by the way and congrats. I will see if I can dig up a couple of pics to show you. It is so orangey and everyone you let smell it will be overwhelmed with that strain. Great strain to smoke early get out and live for the day and finish the day with a heavy. cheers mr bubbs

Thanks for stopping by Shotta! Appreciate the compliment. It's means a lot coming from you.

Would love to compare pics of the Vietnam. Mine is definitely very orangey with diesel also.

Currently it's our only strain so we smoke it all day everyday lol

Can't wait to get my 2nd 600watt and docs kit. Then I'll really be able to grow some monsters

 

[CA215]

I don't think it was possible to properly harvest all of Betsy in one go lol. I never have it more than 3 days between branches so maybe I didn't give her enough time to recover.

I've tried researching online and to my great surprise there are tons of orange crosses. Never tried any myself. I've heard that agent o is by far the strongest orange smelling strain out there but I also read it should smell like liquor and orange where mine smells like orange/diesel. Hard to say tho cuz as it cures in the jar the smell is changing. I have another agent O about 3 weeks into flower and a mother in the veg tent The problem is I may have to cut back from 7 to 6 strains. Thinking the wild Thai may have to go after it's first harvest cuz it's a 10 week where all my others are 8 weeks. Who knows maybe ill just get a bigger veg tent. Starting to realize that a 2x4 veg tent and a 4x8 flower tent will only work out well with a SOG. The furthest two on the right are Ultrasour and Blue OG. My blue thai is BUSHY! Taking awhile to flower but her leaves are super healthy. Usually I defol a bit but with her she just seems natural with lots of leaves.

I know what you mean about au naturale. That's what I prefer also but I'm starting to realize going forward I may have to LST in order to get the most bang for my buck. After my next harvest I'll know for sure. If I can get 2oz min off the blue gf that proves to me that the smaller LST plants will be a better option for my current setup. In the future I want to grow monsters!

Expanding is a must, I beat my head against my 4x4...veg...and flower tent LOL, im hoping to get a new place here when the lease is up with an extra room to house my garden, that will be the day I think if we try to do a sog/scrog method in smaller tents, closer proximity, we should be able to eventually get close to maximizing its potential. I just really enjoy pulling the plants out and giving my tent a good cleaning every couple weeks or so. Sog would work killer for ya brotha, the porta scrog thing is working well for me, but I wish I would have started them sooner with the tomato cage which would have made for a better stable set in the root base, and better training no doubt. Will be sweet to see ya grow some monsters mrbub!

But then again I get to thinking with the time you wait from lst cropping and some defol, maybe it almost adds up to just grow al natural..
Grow a bunch of single cola plants perpetually, have a couple different rows in your flowering tent with clones on stand by to be moved in and fresh cuts in the cloner.. Aw yea.. Definitely giving that an attempt some day

 

[mrbubbles87]

Update:

Here's a more detailed update with pics of each flowering plant.

First up is my blue OG. Still can't pin down the exact smell. It's almost like blueberry crossed with grape but hard to tell exactly. Smells amazing regardless. She about 5 weeks into flower so far. I'm actually surprised at how fat the nugs on her are already.

I've been having some problems with older leaves yellowing on her. Not quite sure what it is. I'm guessing either a cal/mag def or nitrogen def. I've been feeding all of these plants pretty lightly. I don't believe it's a ph issue because it's a problem on some plants but not others. Guessing some are just heavier feeders than others. She still looks super healthy so I'm not too worried. Might add some molasses and epsom salt with her next feeding.

Next up is my Ultrasour. She's been flowering just as long as the blue OG. She smells like a slightly spicy fruit. One thing I've noticed different with this strain is the buds seem shorter and fatter. Having similiar leaf issues but overall she's pretty healthy.

Next is my Blue Thai. This is one of the healthiest plants I've grown. Very bushy and lots of dark green leaves. No nute issues with her. Not smelling like much yet but I know that'll change soon. She's about 3 weeks into flower.

Then I have my Dinachem aka chemdawg. Really excited to try this strain. All the reviews sound awesome. She stretched a ton after a few weeks in flower. She's also about 3 weeks in without much of a smell yet.

My final plant in the flower tent is a small agent O clone. She was a test plant to compare a small single cola SOG plant vs a medium size LST plant. Not really impressed with the results and she's convinced me to change from small plant SOG to medium/large LST.

In my veg tent the Dixie cup clones are really starting to take off. I think what made a big difference is I changed the light cycle from 18/6 to 20/4.

Mainly I did this because a few of my large blue og clones are still shooting pistils and the leaves are getting covered in the crystals. My hope is that by decreasing the dark cycle I can get them to re veg faster.

I think the bigger difference by leaving the lights on longer is temperature. Previously my temps were at 77 day and 68 night. Now my day temps are up to 84 and night temp is down to 75. This temp difference is making a huge difference I think. Now when I open the tent it feels like a rainforest and my growth rate seems a lot faster. This could also just be a result of my aero clones acclimating to soil.

My plan is to keep my clones all in Dixie cups for as long as possible. I'm hoping they can stay stunted in the Dixie cups until I'm ready to put them in larger containers to veg/flower them as needed. This way I can keep a supply of clones on hand for all strains. Then I just transplant, veg them for another month, and then move them to flower.

Here's my larger veg plants. I'll start cycling these into flower soon as their clones get larger. Really no rush. Probably will start with the agent o in a few weeks. I've been topping/pruning all of these like crazy.

Wild Thai #1

Wild Thai #2

Lemon Thai Kush

Agent O

Also my main cola from the last agent O is done drying and came in at a half ounce exactly. That puts my total just under 3oz. I'm pretty excited by these numbers. Hopefully my LST girls will produce even more.

That's all for now. I should be ordering my high brix kit from doc soon so expect big things in a month here

 

[shottafire]

Looking good mr bubbs.
reps dude.

 

[mrbubbles87]

Looking good mr bubbs. reps dude.

Thanks Shotta!

 

[CA215]

Glad to read you shattered your yield you wanted mrbub! That blue og clone is looking sweet, hope she makes it through! I really need to get a cloning station set up here soon enough. Looking at that wild thai #1 and the lemon thai, it looks like they would work great with some lst, those tall arms down side to side and let all those bottom shutes revert upwards :: that is if the others were planning on being tied down abit. I feel you in your pain of wanting more sq ft to work with I am very high and feel like that was a lot of jibber jabber, but i'm going to post it anyways.

Looking great as always mrbub! Keep up the great work

 

[mrbubbles87]

Glad to read you shattered your yield you wanted mrbub! That blue og clone is looking sweet, hope she makes it through! I really need to get a cloning station set up here soon enough. Looking at that wild thai #1 and the lemon thai, it looks like they would work great with some lst, those tall arms down side to side and let all those bottom shutes revert upwards :: that is if the others were planning on being tied down abit. I feel you in your pain of wanting more sq ft to work with I am very high and feel like that was a lot of jibber jabber, but i'm going to post it anyways. Looking great as always mrbub! Keep up the great work

Jibber jabber away That blue Og is one of probably 6. They're all really healthy and growing taller but they still keep growing pistils even in 20/4. I'm sure they'll be fine though.

There's really no rush with the big girls in the veg tent. Kind of playing around with them a bit because they're mainly for cloning and I have tons rooted already. Besides multiple toppings I also super cropped them all last night. Or at least that's what I think I did. I pinched and bent all the branches over. Ill post a few pics.

 

[mrbubbles87]

I decided to supercrop my larger mother plants in veg last night. At least I think that's what I did lol Mainly I've just been messing around with different techniques like topping and LST. I noticed on my last agent O plant toward the end the branches were very weak and I ended up harvesting earlier than I would've liked. I saw a few videos about pinching branches to make them stronger so lately I've been pinching random branches and last night I decided to take it a bit further by folding them over. I figure this will make the branches stronger and will help develop more tops and an even canopy. If it fails ill just clone the tops I bent Here's a few pics

 

[CA215]

Jibber jabber away That blue Og is one of probably 6. They're all really healthy and growing taller but they still keep growing pistils even in 20/4. I'm sure they'll be fine though.

There's really no rush with the big girls in the veg tent. Kind of playing around with them a bit because they're mainly for cloning and I have tons rooted already. Besides multiple toppings I also super cropped them all last night. Or at least that's what I think I did. I pinched and bent all the branches over. Ill post a few pics.

Blue OGs still pushing out the remaining flowering hormones maybe, makin room for the veg hormones.. im not sure but it looks kick a buddy. YA! Perfect bends that is what I was picturing in my head last night, which from my post was a blur
I would call that super cropping and when I was doing a little lighter bending without fully lying the branch over, just pinching the steam to break it down so it can regrow even stronger, I was just calling it cropping LOL, idk if there is a difference but there was in my head The only thing I can tell ya is watch out for a fan hitting those freshly bent arms, it can become disastrous if your fan is on high setting. Give them a day or two and they will have already stiffened up and will be growing upwards again When they get a little stronger and are growing upwards again, I would tie them back down to the sides of the pots Good stuff mrbub! These trained babies will produce you some mad colas Stay safe bud!