Mars-Hydro LED Grow Light Discussion

For a tent application I would imagine velcro, if designed correctly, can be replaced with the wall staying intact. If not then the wall can be replaced as an aftermarket part ($20 max)? A zipper, especially as sturdy as Mars makes them might make better application sense than velcro... The wall however should be removable.
 
A zipper, especially as sturdy as Mars makes them might make better application sense than velcro... The wall however should be removable.

I've got nothing against a removable inner partition wall (IDK if I'd ever use it - but as long as others would...). As I mentioned previously, my sole concern where it is concerned is ultimate light-proofing. I have seen products (NOT grow tents, though) where two pieces were zipped together - the pieces could be completely separated by unzipping the zipper all the way. They were occasionally a bit of a pain to get lined up exactly correct in order to start the zipper when zipping them back together, but that could be caused by a cheap design and/or cheap materials. I do not know if such a design would be compatible with a light-proof application, however.

Mars Hydro is looking for product reviewer on 420magazine now
Awesome! On behalf of all of us, thank you for giving someone here this opportunity.

Mars Pro II Epistar 320 and 4'x4 tent will be the reviewed product

I have wanted to try out one of your tents since I first learned that you not only sell them, you are the manufacturer as well. I've also read a lot of positive things about your newest series of LED panels. I'm finally just about ready for my test grow of {a competitor's} LED panel. Both products have multiple switches which could be used for a lower-wattage grow mode and a full-power bloom mode. The other product uses Cree LEDs, so it could be a good "Cree vs. Epistar" comparison, lol. They both weigh between 30-40 pounds. The other one is a "previous generation model" but uses a mixture of mono-color LEDs and COBs - yours is brand new, but uses only the mono-color LEDs. They are undoubtedly both high-quality products. They both, in their own ways, have a wide spectrum of illumination. Et cetera.

I found myself thinking, "This could be a good way to show them both off, by the same grower, utilizing the same strains - even clones from those strains for minimum variability - and with the same growing style/method, and the same environmental conditions. A grower who has no reason to favor one product - or company - over the other. That would give as close to an unbiased comparison as is possible, which would allow the members to choose the product that THEY feel is the best one (and the best one for them)... which would make it a test which would provide a high potential value to the membership of the forum."

HOWEVER... I was also thinking that this particular product of yours costs reasonably close to that other product. But I must have gotten your newest models mixed up the last time I looked at them on your website, because I just double-checked to make sure and your Mars Pro II Epistar 320 retails for $663.99... and the competitor's product retailed for (if I remember correctly) right around $900. Based on price alone, I might sort of expect the other product to have a bit of an unfair advantage in such a head-to-head comparison.

And that's not all...

I was also thinking that, from your product's name, that it was one that consumed 320 watts (or up to 15% more, depending on losses between the electrical supply and the actual LEDs), which would put it roughly in the same neighborhood as the competitor's product. Imagine my surprise (shock and awe might be more like it ;) ) when, whilst rereading the specifications for your model, that - even though it is cheaper - it's output is between 700 and 760 watts, roughly TWICE what the competitor's product that I have here outputs. So... IDK, lol. It looks like, to get anywhere near the same wattage in an Epistar version, I'd be looking at the Mars Pro II Epistar 160. In the Cree-equipped models, the MarsPro II Cree128 consumes 325-355 watts (which, at the upper end of that range, is just about dead even). Of course, both of those two products are cheaper than this one that I've got - in fact, ironically, for what it sold for, it looks like a person could purchase BOTH the MarsPro II Epistar 160 and MarsPro II Cree 128 models.

Hmm... I find this to be rather interesting. But getting back to the light that you are actually looking for a reviewer for... Yours is a little cheaper (actually, it might be $200+ cheaper - it just occurred to me that $200 would more than pay for a tent ;) ) but has twice the wattage. Your coverage area appears to be significantly higher, too, at approximately 1.78 times the size of the competitor's product. Curious.

Curiouser and curiouser, methinks! It would still be an interesting comparison - a lower purchase price AND higher wattage, but at the same time that higher wattage equates to a higher monthly electrical consumption. But it also might... might produce a much higher yield at harvest time. Yes, this IS interesting!

<SIGH> But I guess that a person cannot "tag" their self, lol.

Still, I will at least get the chance to read along with the reviewer's journal.
 
Tangie at week 6 in flower grown under my Mars Pro Epistar 160 LED, LOVE this panel so much :cheertwo::Namaste::circle-of-love:

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Looking into purchasing a 4X4 grow tent. Checked out the Mars Hydro one.

4'x4'x7''Grow Tent 1680D mars hydro grow tent -4'x4'x7'

On the site it lists the Views Mars Reflector 48 as the light best used with it. Is this enough light? Is a Mars Reflector 96 or larger a better choice?

Finally do they ever offer discounts for purchasing tent and light together?

Thanks
 
hi ,
I have a 4x4 tent and use 2x144 reflectors they cover all the space in my tent and I'm really happy about them.
they don't use much electricity in grow and in bloom they use as much as a 600w hps + ballast so you are still good.

good luck !
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:circle-of-love:Thanks for your opinions,after we finish the draft,we will make another sample,we will show you here.:high-five:I will also consult with our designer that whether we can do it as zipper door for the separation wall.:Namaste:
Yeah,a removable wall it should be.:high-five:
For a tent application I would imagine velcro, if designed correctly, can be replaced with the wall staying intact. If not then the wall can be replaced as an aftermarket part ($20 max)? A zipper, especially as sturdy as Mars makes them might make better application sense than velcro... The wall however should be removable.
 
:circle-of-love:I was wondering of one thing for a while: why is the partition wall must be light-tight? I mean it is the wall inside of the tent,even it is not totally light-tight,the light still inside the tent,it's only two way for the light to go: main growing room or seedling room.:high-five:
It's our pleasure to have someone do a great reviewer on our products.:welcome:

We are a big LED grow light manufacture,we can save many costs,so that we can compete the price with many other competitors for the same or better quality.:Namaste:

We named the Mars Pro (II)series after the quantity of the leds for each model,Mars Pro(II) Epistar 320,this model have 320pcs leds.:high-five:
Yes,you can tag yourself,and we will choose one person on Sep 30th from those names got tagged here.:welcome:
I've got nothing against a removable inner partition wall (IDK if I'd ever use it - but as long as others would...). As I mentioned previously, my sole concern where it is concerned is ultimate light-proofing. I have seen products (NOT grow tents, though) where two pieces were zipped together - the pieces could be completely separated by unzipping the zipper all the way. They were occasionally a bit of a pain to get lined up exactly correct in order to start the zipper when zipping them back together, but that could be caused by a cheap design and/or cheap materials. I do not know if such a design would be compatible with a light-proof application, however.

Awesome! On behalf of all of us, thank you for giving someone here this opportunity.



I have wanted to try out one of your tents since I first learned that you not only sell them, you are the manufacturer as well. I've also read a lot of positive things about your newest series of LED panels. I'm finally just about ready for my test grow of {a competitor's} LED panel. Both products have multiple switches which could be used for a lower-wattage grow mode and a full-power bloom mode. The other product uses Cree LEDs, so it could be a good "Cree vs. Epistar" comparison, lol. They both weigh between 30-40 pounds. The other one is a "previous generation model" but uses a mixture of mono-color LEDs and COBs - yours is brand new, but uses only the mono-color LEDs. They are undoubtedly both high-quality products. They both, in their own ways, have a wide spectrum of illumination. Et cetera.

I found myself thinking, "This could be a good way to show them both off, by the same grower, utilizing the same strains - even clones from those strains for minimum variability - and with the same growing style/method, and the same environmental conditions. A grower who has no reason to favor one product - or company - over the other. That would give as close to an unbiased comparison as is possible, which would allow the members to choose the product that THEY feel is the best one (and the best one for them)... which would make it a test which would provide a high potential value to the membership of the forum."

HOWEVER... I was also thinking that this particular product of yours costs reasonably close to that other product. But I must have gotten your newest models mixed up the last time I looked at them on your website, because I just double-checked to make sure and your Mars Pro II Epistar 320 retails for $663.99... and the competitor's product retailed for (if I remember correctly) right around $900. Based on price alone, I might sort of expect the other product to have a bit of an unfair advantage in such a head-to-head comparison.

And that's not all...

I was also thinking that, from your product's name, that it was one that consumed 320 watts (or up to 15% more, depending on losses between the electrical supply and the actual LEDs), which would put it roughly in the same neighborhood as the competitor's product. Imagine my surprise (shock and awe might be more like it ;) ) when, whilst rereading the specifications for your model, that - even though it is cheaper - it's output is between 700 and 760 watts, roughly TWICE what the competitor's product that I have here outputs. So... IDK, lol. It looks like, to get anywhere near the same wattage in an Epistar version, I'd be looking at the Mars Pro II Epistar 160. In the Cree-equipped models, the MarsPro II Cree128 consumes 325-355 watts (which, at the upper end of that range, is just about dead even). Of course, both of those two products are cheaper than this one that I've got - in fact, ironically, for what it sold for, it looks like a person could purchase BOTH the MarsPro II Epistar 160 and MarsPro II Cree 128 models.

Hmm... I find this to be rather interesting. But getting back to the light that you are actually looking for a reviewer for... Yours is a little cheaper (actually, it might be $200+ cheaper - it just occurred to me that $200 would more than pay for a tent ;) ) but has twice the wattage. Your coverage area appears to be significantly higher, too, at approximately 1.78 times the size of the competitor's product. Curious.

Curiouser and curiouser, methinks! It would still be an interesting comparison - a lower purchase price AND higher wattage, but at the same time that higher wattage equates to a higher monthly electrical consumption. But it also might... might produce a much higher yield at harvest time. Yes, this IS interesting!

<SIGH> But I guess that a person cannot "tag" their self, lol.

Still, I will at least get the chance to read along with the reviewer's journal.
 
:bravo:It's really nice to have you here again.:welcome:
I love sugars,only few weeks left for them,right?:cheertwo:
Tangie at week 6 in flower grown under my Mars Pro Epistar 160 LED, LOVE this panel so much :cheertwo::Namaste::circle-of-love:

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:circle-of-love:Hi bcescape,you like our Reflector series,right?For a 4'x4'x7' Grow tent,you can put a Reflector 192:high-five:
The recommendation on our official website isn't accurate,we will change it very soon.:Namaste:We usually recommend light based on the light's coverage and the size of the tent.:high-five:
Looking into purchasing a 4X4 grow tent. Checked out the Mars Hydro one.

4'x4'x7''Grow Tent 1680D mars hydro grow tent -4'x4'x7'

On the site it lists the Views Mars Reflector 48 as the light best used with it. Is this enough light? Is a Mars Reflector 96 or larger a better choice?

Finally do they ever offer discounts for purchasing tent and light together?

Thanks
 
:circle-of-love:2 pcs Reflector 144 for a 4'x4' tent will be great,multiple lights will be easier install and they will cover the growing space nicely.:bravo:
hi ,
I have a 4x4 tent and use 2x144 reflectors they cover all the space in my tent and I'm really happy about them.
they don't use much electricity in grow and in bloom they use as much as a 600w hps + ballast so you are still good.

good luck !
:thumb:
 
:circle-of-love:Many growers like to switch on both VEG and flower switches.:high-five: May i know how many days of your plants now?:Namaste:
actually I turned of the veg and every diodes work perfectly, it's just that I couldn't notice with the veg on ^^
cheers
 
:circle-of-love:I was wondering of one thing for a while: why is the partition wall must be light-tight? I mean it is the wall inside of the tent,even it is not totally light-tight,the light still inside the tent,it's only two way for the light to go: main growing room or seedling room.

The plants will only bloom if each night is completely dark for 11-12 hours. There are hormones produced by light that suppress bloom. So there can't be any light leaking from the veg side. If light leaks into the bloom side, the plants will stop blooming.

The removable wall also makes the tent bigger if we want to use it without a wall - more flexible. It's a very good idea. :thumb:

:Namaste:
 
:bravo:It's really nice to have you here again.:welcome:
I love sugars,only few weeks left for them,right?:cheertwo:

The tangie is a pretty heavy sativa and will probably go another 3-4 weeks .️.


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:welcome:Hi Graytail,thanks for your explanation.:thanks:
I forgot this important point,sorry for that.When plants in different growing stage,their requirements for dark and light times are different,how can i forgot this? :thanks:
We will try our best to make a light-tight removable separation wall.:high-five:
In your opinion a valcro flap edge is better or with zipper for the separation wall is better?:Namaste:
The plants will only bloom if each night is completely dark for 11-12 hours. There are hormones produced by light that suppress bloom. So there can't be any light leaking from the veg side. If light leaks into the bloom side, the plants will stop blooming.

The removable wall also makes the ten bigger if we want to use it without a wall - more flexible. It's a very good idea. :thumb:

:Namaste:
 
:bravo:I'm sure you will get great yield from tangie.:cheertwo: I think need to smoke little sativa now,the weather here today made me sleepy,cold and raining.:volcano-smiley:
The tangie is a pretty heavy sativa and will probably go another 3-4 weeks .️.


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:welcome:Hi Graytail,thanks for your explanation.:thanks:
I forgot this important point,sorry for that.When plants in different growing stage,their requirements for dark and light times are different,how can i forgot this? :thanks:
We will try our best to make a light-tight removable separation wall.:high-five:
In your opinion a valcro flap edge is better or with zipper for the separation wall is better?:Namaste:

:hmmm: I think if/when the zipper fails it would be difficult to work with. If/when the velcro fails it would be easier to repair ...?

Is the cost difference significant? If velcro is the same or less, then I think velcro would be better.
 
:bravo:I agree with you that if the zipper fails,it's hard to work with,the only way is to change a new zipper.But if the velcro fails,we can do something for it by ourselves.:Namaste:
But once we install the separation wall between the two spaces,we may only need to take it off once a month,or longer,right? :high-five:
:hmmm: I think if/when the zipper fails it would be difficult to work with. If/when the velcro fails it would be easier to repair ...?

Is the cost difference significant? If velcro is the same or less, then I think velcro would be better.
 
:bravo:I agree with you that if the zipper fails,it's hard to work with,the only way is to change a new zipper.But if the velcro fails,we can do something for it by ourselves.:Namaste:
But once we install the separation wall between the two spaces,we may only need to take it off once a month,or longer,right? :high-five:

There wouldn't be any particular schedule. Most people would use it to run a small perpetual garden. On the small side, they can raise young plants, then put them into the other side to bloom, while new seedlings replace them on the small side. Most people wouldn't remove the wall at all. :cheesygrinsmiley:

But if I was looking at tents, I might think this slightly larger tent with the extra wall might be pretty cool to have, especially for someone just starting. I would know that, later, I could buy another tent for veg, take the wall out of this one and have two large tents. It's a very good idea for a starter tent. You should market it that way. It would be nice as part of a lights and tent combination - a full starter kit - set it up, hang the lights, plug 'em in and you're all set! :slide:


[Edit] Actually ... :hmmm: ... if you offered lights to go with the tent as a package deal, people would probably be more likely to buy the tent, even without the lights. :cheesygrinsmiley: They might want to choose their own lights, but seeing the package would help them understand how convenient the dual tent would be.
 
I consulted with our engineer just now,if we use zipper,the costs will be higher than we use velcro,and need to prevent light leak from the zipper seams.:Namaste: We think Velcro will be better choice. :high-five:
I think it will be fine,as we do not need to take the separation wall off very often.:high-five:
:hmmm: I think if/when the zipper fails it would be difficult to work with. If/when the velcro fails it would be easier to repair ...?

Is the cost difference significant? If velcro is the same or less, then I think velcro would be better.
 
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