Mars-Hydro LED Grow Light Discussion

[Mars Hydro]

Hi Jimdog,are you interested in a Reflector48? May i know your growing space?

Could anyone point me towards a grow using the marshydro reflector 48? Would like to see how well they preform, light put out ect

Jimdogggy

 

[Mars Hydro]

You like a small size tent,60cmX60cm VEG 40/30cmX60cm,with the height 160-180cm.I will ask our designer if we can do that.
How many shelf you think it will be better for the small tent?

I would like one that is 60cm x 60cm flower and veg side of 40cm (maybe 30cm) x 60cm total area of 100cm x 60cm (or 90cm x 60cm) height should be about 160-180cm. The ones available are 140ish and seem to be a bit short for led growing.

 

[Mars Hydro]

Mars 300/600 do not install IR diodes,our Reflector series,Mars II series,Mars pro(II) series isntall IR diodes.
If your Mars 300 has one diode appears to be dim,you can send picture to my colleague,they will help you to diagnose.

Hi Sara,

Was wondering... Is there an IR beam on the Mars Hydro 300? I just recently bought one and was under the impression that there was no IR on the 300w (135w true) panel. However maybe they were upgraded. There is one diode that appears to be out on mine but to my knowledge they usually go out as a whole "bank" not just an individual diode.

Thanks Sara!

 

[TorturedSoul]

The wall would probably be better designed as removable with lots of redundant velcro as someone suggested earlier.

As a poor kid, I was happy as could be one Christmas, because I received a brand new (NOT my brother's hand-me-downs) pair of sneakers. That probably seems about as exciting to most people reading this as the proverbial "socks and underwear" presents, lol, but for my family - especially at the time - it was momentous. I suspect that my parents thought something like, "Well, we have a little money this year to spend on something besides rent, food, and the utility bills, but this is going to eat all of that extra money, so we better ask the shoe salesman for advice." Because when I pulled out those brand new shoes, they didn't have laces - they had some kind of strange Velcro fastener. "Wow," I thought, "This is some really cool astronaut footwear I've got!" They were awesome, stick your foot in, pull the thing tight and pat it into place and you're done. Yank them open and remove your feet at the end of the day. But then pretty soon, I noticed that the end of the Velcro flap wasn't sticking any more like the rest of it was; it was kind of curled up a little bit. That didn't really bother me - hey, no one else's feet had ever worn them before . But not long after that, I was running down the (concrete?) stairway between the second and first floors in my elementary school, as boys will do - and that Velcro flap had gotten to the point where it came clear open, allowing my foot to mostly come out of the shoe, and... well, that was the first time I broke one of my collarbones :rolleyes3 .

I think, if it were me and I was paying $100 (or thereabouts) for a fancy new grow tent, I'd like to see as little Velcro as possible and, instead, something more durable. If not a permanently attached wall, then at least a zipper setup of the same quality as the one on the tent's door. Because I'd most likely have two different light schedules going on the two sides of the tent (otherwise, why not just buy one larger single-room version, lol) - and I'd really hate to discover one day that my flowering girls had suddenly received bright light... during the middle of their dark period.

I figure the MOST important feature in a grow tent is that the thing ought to be as close to 100% light-tight, 100% of the time, as it is possible to make it. As a long-term solution, I do not really think that Velcro qualifies. If it did, the manufacturers could forgo zippers altogether and just use Velcro for the door.

A third lower vent to observe the inside,i think that will be a good idea.

I did not mean it to be some oddly-placed observation port, lol (which would only be useful if my chin was on the floor :rolleyes3 ). I meant it for a third(?) passive intake. Both to help lessen the load on one's exhaust fan and as an option if one did not actually need three intake vents - but one or both of the other sides happened to be blocked by the tent being right up against another object (such as a wall).

 

[Mars Hydro]

I also think redundant velcro removable separation wall will be better,growers can install it or uninstall it as they needed.
I already told our engineer about it,after they finish the draft,i will let you guys know.

The wall would probably be better designed as removable with lots of redundant velcro as someone suggested earlier. A permanent wall would likely break down very quickly if there is any need to fold away and store the tent. Also a removable wall gives the owner various growing options to expand a flower tent or keep a veg side. If the removable wall breaks down it is easily replaced! This method in my mind would need, like I said, a redundant amount of velcro and "flapping" to ensure no light leaks. Otherwise the suggestion of more ports is great also. Looking forward to this tent!

 

[Mars Hydro]

I understand your concerns,i also thought about that problem before.It seems that if we want to make the separation wall removable,Velcro edge will be the best choice to prevent light leak.But like you said there will be another problem,after sometimes the Velcro flap will be not stick as tight as before.I will consult with our engineer for this issue.
Yeah,growing tent must be 100% light-tight,they may need to open the door to check the plants,but they will not open the separation wall as many times as the door.
We have a side door can observe the inside.Maybe we should add a observation window at the middle of the infront door,do you think it will be better? A third intake vent,i will consult with our engineer.
You always gave us good ideas.We are really lucky to have you guys here.

As a poor kid, I was happy as could be one Christmas, because I received a brand new (NOT my brother's hand-me-downs) pair of sneakers. That probably seems about as exciting to most people reading this as the proverbial "socks and underwear" presents, lol, but for my family - especially at the time - it was momentous. I suspect that my parents thought something like, "Well, we have a little money this year to spend on something besides rent, food, and the utility bills, but this is going to eat all of that extra money, so we better ask the shoe salesman for advice." Because when I pulled out those brand new shoes, they didn't have laces - they had some kind of strange Velcro fastener. "Wow," I thought, "This is some really cool astronaut footwear I've got!" They were awesome, stick your foot in, pull the thing tight and pat it into place and you're done. Yank them open and remove your feet at the end of the day. But then pretty soon, I noticed that the end of the Velcro flap wasn't sticking any more like the rest of it was; it was kind of curled up a little bit. That didn't really bother me - hey, no one else's feet had ever worn them before . But not long after that, I was running down the (concrete?) stairway between the second and first floors in my elementary school, as boys will do - and that Velcro flap had gotten to the point where it came clear open, allowing my foot to mostly come out of the shoe, and... well, that was the first time I broke one of my collarbones :rolleyes3 .

I think, if it were me and I was paying $100 (or thereabouts) for a fancy new grow tent, I'd like to see as little Velcro as possible and, instead, something more durable. If not a permanently attached wall, then at least a zipper setup of the same quality as the one on the tent's door. Because I'd most likely have two different light schedules going on the two sides of the tent (otherwise, why not just buy one larger single-room version, lol) - and I'd really hate to discover one day that my flowering girls had suddenly received bright light... during the middle of their dark period.

I figure the MOST important feature in a grow tent is that the thing ought to be as close to 100% light-tight, 100% of the time, as it is possible to make it. As a long-term solution, I do not really think that Velcro qualifies. If it did, the manufacturers could forgo zippers altogether and just use Velcro for the door.



I did not mean it to be some oddly-placed observation port, lol (which would only be useful if my chin was on the floor :rolleyes3 ). I meant it for a third(?) passive intake. Both to help lessen the load on one's exhaust fan and as an option if one did not actually need three intake vents - but one or both of the other sides happened to be blocked by the tent being right up against another object (such as a wall).

 

[Mars Hydro]

I summarized ideas from you guys for these days:
1 We will change the removable separation wall into Velcro edge to prevent light leak.
2 Add a observation window
Is there anything else you guys want us to change?

 

[Integrum Stultus]

Can Mars Hydro provide any PAR statistics on their Reflector series leds? Mainly the 96


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[gudyul]

This week i have visited some journal,growers asked that after they move their plants under LED grow light,plants need more cal and mag than before,and everything else keep the samewhat do you think?

like he said , depends on a lot of variables. The previous photo with whitish withered looking tops was definativaley not calcium or magnesium , root rot or whatever , maybe sulfur deficiency ( if my memory serves me) which may also correct the PH with sulfuric acid or batter acid!!! also contributes to flavor??? Calcium and mag issues may be isolated( lower leaves show mag def and upper leaves show cal def) although cal/mag brands are promoted a lot . ratio cal/mag and not just any cal or mag mind you! I have switched to a hybrid soiless medium of coco and peat with additives , calcium and mag buffered 7:1 ratio and lots phos , doc buddy style, with minerals from rock n sea, doc also adds what he calls a yeast fertilizer which may be bio waste lactose bisylium fermented with molasses whatever. don't forget the tea , b12 , acid , borax etc.

You posted a few very good artist renditions of deficiencies in leaves a few posts back , you might refer to these.

 

[Mars Hydro]

Hi Askhole420,sure i will post the PAR statistics here(we are using Li－Core PAR meter) .

Can Mars Hydro provide any PAR statistics on their Reflector series leds? Mainly the 96


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[Mars Hydro]

hi gudyul,thanks for your explanations.
Yeah,sometimes i can not diagnose the mag/cal deficiency,i may be a careful farmer,but i can not be a great professional farmer yet.With your help,i think i can improve it better.

like he said , depends on a lot of variables. The previous photo with whitish withered looking tops was definativaley not calcium or magnesium , root rot or whatever , maybe sulfur deficiency ( if my memory serves me) which may also correct the PH with sulfuric acid or batter acid!!! also contributes to flavor??? Calcium and mag issues may be isolated( lower leaves show mag def and upper leaves show cal def) although cal/mag brands are promoted a lot . ratio cal/mag and not just any cal or mag mind you! I have switched to a hybrid soiless medium of coco and peat with additives , calcium and mag buffered 7:1 ratio and lots phos , doc buddy style, with minerals from rock n sea, doc also adds what he calls a yeast fertilizer which may be bio waste lactose bisylium fermented with molasses whatever. don't forget the tea , b12 , acid , borax etc.

You posted a few very good artist renditions of deficiencies in leaves a few posts back , you might refer to these.

 

[gudyul]

hi gudyul,thanks for your explanations.
Yeah,sometimes i can not diagnose the mag/cal deficiency,i may be a careful farmer,but i can not be a great professional farmer yet.With your help,i think i can improve it better.

ZINC (Zn)
White areas form at leaf tips and between veins. Occurs in alkaline soils. Zn deficiency can be treated by burying galvanized nails in the soil. Chemical fertilizer containing Zn can also be used.

 

[Brandydog]

Hi SmokeSara: Been replacing the engine in my car the past couple of days. I will get some pictures out tomorrow. See ya

We show the picture to our engineer ,they know the layout of the leds. If you can send more pictures to us along with your address,it will be great. You can try to send to my colleague email again, after you send, please let me know, i will check for you.





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[Mars Hydro]

Thanks for explain it to me,i understand it better now.But plants do not too much Zn,right? Just like we need vitamins,but not too much.
How do you think this one?

ZINC (Zn)
White areas form at leaf tips and between veins. Occurs in alkaline soils. Zn deficiency can be treated by burying galvanized nails in the soil. Chemical fertilizer containing Zn can also be used.

 

[Mars Hydro]

It's no problem.Did you send eamil to my colleague? Please try to send email to my colleague or you can send to sales18@lgledsolutions.com,we need your address as well.

Hi SmokeSara: Been replacing the engine in my car the past couple of days. I will get some pictures out tomorrow. See ya

 

[TorturedSoul]

How do you think this one?

(Roots) starved for oxygen, lol? Don't they have access to perlite?

Is the color washed out from the camera's flash (etc.), or is there as much lack of green in those leaves as there appears to be?

 

[Mars Hydro]

I think she is starved for oxygen too,haha.When he took pic,he forgot to avoid the light.She doesn't have any green color,and the leaves it is not dropping either.

(Roots) starved for oxygen, lol? Don't they have access to perlite?

Is the color washed out from the camera's flash (etc.), or is there as much lack of green in those leaves as there appears to be?

 

[Mars Hydro]

Our new lights will arrive at Germany very soon.

 

[Mars Hydro]

Guys, Mars Hydro is looking for product reviewer on 420magazine now, who do you trust? Please tag him here, we will choose one people from all the tagged person.
we are waiting for their objective ,professinoal review. Mars Pro II Epistar 320 and 4'x4 tent will be the reviewed product. Deadline: 30th,Sept. ————By Mars Hydro Team.

 

[Mars Hydro]