LED GROW-OFF Part Deux: XXX vs. 180w UFO

[HawaiianDuck]

Re: costs?

oh shit that's crazy! just say'n, for 700$ i can get five 600watt HPS lights, and can grow more than 150 big high potent cannabis plants,in grow room size 50 square meter!
man!

GHS Indica H-mix

Wow dude, where are you getting the 600w HPS for less than $120? That sounds like a big time score. And 30 plants per 600w, I thought I was pushing the space with 8 per, your pots would have to be tiny. You must be using hydro or the like, I am still a dirt bagger, so I guess I don't quite have the mental framework to wrap my head around the floor space parameters for hydro, but that sure sounds like a lot.

 

[wizewizo]

re: LED GROW-OFF Part Deux: Hydro Grow LED 205w vs. 180w UFO

So here's some pics taken on 1/21


The PS on the left is at 16" away from plant tops
The HGL on the right at 6" away from plant tops

A shot of the two side by side outside the tent

180w Jumbo plants root system

HGL plants root system

Internode growth on the PS plants

Internode growth on the HGL plants

Difference in size of fan leaves.... So weird. Different color ratios???
HGL first

PS

 

[wizewizo]

re: LED GROW-OFF Part Deux: Hydro Grow LED 205w vs. 180w UFO

And pictures from today Day 10 or 11 depending on how stoned I am when I am counting. The girls had outgrown the buckets so into their aero trays they go. I will be using 4x2 homemade aero trays to complete the rest of the cycle.

Here's a pic of each system before the girls went in.

And here they are all tucked into their nice new home

HGL plant

PS plant

HGL tray roots

PS tray roots

Sorry for the lack of pics this update, but throwin these units together and everything has kicked my ass today.... Headed out to go blazeeee.

Peace

 

[420hps]

e-pay

Wow dude, where are you getting the 600w HPS for less than $120? That sounds like a big time score. And 30 plants per 600w, I thought I was pushing the space with 8 per, your pots would have to be tiny. You must be using hydro or the like, I am still a dirt bagger, so I guess I don't quite have the mental framework to wrap my head around the floor space parameters for hydro, but that sure sounds like a lot.

no man i'm a dirt bagger to(7L pots),as you can clearly see in my grow journal!
GHS Indica H-mix

Then buy an HPS and by the way, you could probably buy two 600w HPS cooltubes for 700.00 bones. Ebay my friend......Ebay....but me personally, I like LED.

look man as i sad "just say'n"!
i sure can tell you,that on e-bay are fucking crazy!!! this price list is high to big! that's not e-bay,that's e-pay!!!
look man,where i live here is new 600watt hps kit with everything(plug&play) sell price with 20%discount 110€!!! that's 148$!!! brand new!!!
and cooltube brand new with 20%discount cost only 40€ that's 53buck$!!!
if u don't believe link right here:
hps kit:Headshop

cooltube: Headshop

+ 20% discount on cash!

i like LED to! but only for stand by light on my LCD TV! &

 

[wizewizo]

Re: costs?

Then buy an HPS and by the way, you could probably buy two 600w HPS cooltubes for 700.00 bones. Ebay my friend......Ebay....but me personally, I like LED.

Ye, gotta love the bay. I just ordered 1 600w dimmable lumatek for my next project that should be gettin off the ground not this weekend but the following weekend. EVERYONE will love it!!! I am beyond stoked, more on this later, hehe....

 

[logitech227]

re: LED GROW-OFF Part Deux: Hydro Grow LED 205w vs. 180w UFO

Nice update, both plants look great but form over all uniformity - the 180w Jumbo looks like its doing a better job. I know it is to early in the game to be making accusations like that but it is just my insight. Im pretty bias towards HGL, I must keep reminding myself of that fact and drop the wall. Eitherway, both sets of plants look nice.

 

[DroJo]

re: LED GROW-OFF Part Deux: Hydro Grow LED 205w vs. 180w UFO

Wow awesome clean set up. I'd say for this stage they are pretty neck and neck.. its hard to make a call this early. Good update bro


dro

 

[IrishBoy]

re: LED GROW-OFF Part Deux: Hydro Grow LED 205w vs. 180w UFO

PS looks better to me as well, even at 16" where the HGL is 6" that says allot. but the roots look better on the HGL side. you doing 4 plants on each side? with co2 and areo?
by the way i didn't grow Afghan Kush on my last test. it was Hindu skunk and Blue dream.
its crazy how the leaves are different sizes.

keep up the good work. good luck brother

 

[wizewizo]

re: LED GROW-OFF Part Deux: Hydro Grow LED 205w vs. 180w UFO

Nice update, both plants look great but form over all uniformity - the 180w Jumbo looks like its doing a better job. I know it is to early in the game to be making accusations like that but it is just my insight. Im pretty bias towards HGL, I must keep reminding myself of that fact and drop the wall. Eitherway, both sets of plants look nice.

Yep, still real early. It's pretty weird the difference in growth between the two lights. The fan leaves on the PS side give it the appearance of being fuller imo, but the nodes on the HGL side appear to have more development.

Wow awesome clean set up. I'd say for this stage they are pretty neck and neck.. its hard to make a call this early. Good update bro


dro

Thanks man, its been fun settin everything up! Yeah, it's interesting to say the least. Especially after the results between the last time these two companies matched up. But one difference this time is the lights. HGL has switched up their ratio's and the white diodes are now 6500k instead of 3000k.

PS looks better to me as well, even at 16" where the HGL is 6" that says allot. but the roots look better on the HGL side. you doing 4 plants on each side? with co2 and areo?
by the way i didn't grow Afghan Kush on my last test. it was Hindu skunk and Blue dream.
its crazy how the leaves are different sizes.

keep up the good work. good luck brother

Yeah, I have been running everything to spec from manufacturers height recommendations. What height did you run the PS at during veg? Gonna probably pull out 1 from each side and throw those under my 400w with my next round that should be startin here pretty soon.
CO2 isnt being ran yet got the tank and everything all set up the timers just not plugged in(waitin til flowerin I suppose), aero yes. This is hindu kush, whoops just went back and saw I wrote the wrong strain, hehe, sorry guess someone was high... Need to go edit that, read that and was like wha, I ain't growin afghan kush, lol, went back and saw sure as shit thats what I wrote. Stoner move.

 

[IrishBoy]

re: LED GROW-OFF Part Deux: Hydro Grow LED 205w vs. 180w UFO

Yep, still real early. It's pretty weird the difference in growth between the two lights. The fan leaves on the PS side give it the appearance of being fuller imo, but the nodes on the HGL side appear to have more development.



Thanks man, its been fun settin everything up! Yeah, it's interesting to say the least. Especially after the results between the last time these two companies matched up. But one difference this time is the lights. HGL has switched up their ratio's and the white diodes are now 6500k instead of 3000k.



Yeah, I have been running everything to spec from manufacturers height recommendations. What height did you run the PS at during veg? Gonna probably pull out 1 from each side and throw those under my 400w with my next round that should be startin here pretty soon.
CO2 isnt being ran yet got the tank and everything all set up the timers just not plugged in(waitin til flowerin I suppose), aero yes. This is hindu kush, whoops just went back and saw I wrote the wrong strain, hehe, sorry guess someone was high... Need to go edit that, read that and was like wha, I ain't growin afghan kush, lol, went back and saw sure as shit thats what I wrote. Stoner move.

i ran the 126w at around 6-8" for veg and the PS @first 15" then 12" for veg.
you should do great with the co2 and aero. thats a potent combo to run. something i want to run co2 to really boost the buds. i use to run it back in the day but took a break and sold my tanks. that co2 make a huge differences and ive heard aero is as good as it gets if done right. so ur going to do most likely 6 girls? should be a good harvest. good luck brother.
the hindu kush is a good strain almost the same think as hindu skunk i believe?

 

[wizewizo]

re: LED GROW-OFF Part Deux: Hydro Grow LED 205w vs. 180w UFO

k, so i've decided tomorrow i'mma throw a scrog up over each of the girls. I am pretty sure that we all agree that this is one of the best ways to grow with LED's and I believe it will really help to keep things even in terms of growth before veg between the two lights. So one question I have been asking myself is, if one set of plants is lagging a little behind the other set, should I pull the lagging side out, put it up in the other tent and continue to veg that set until it is ready to be flipped to 12/12 with the other LED's plants? Or should they both flipped at the same time? Would love to hear some input on this, as I've seen SettingSun come across a similar question when it comes to harvest.... Thanks in advance.

 

[IrishBoy]

re: LED GROW-OFF Part Deux: Hydro Grow LED 205w vs. 180w UFO

k, so i've decided tomorrow i'mma throw a scrog up over each of the girls. I am pretty sure that we all agree that this is one of the best ways to grow with LED's and I believe it will really help to keep things even in terms of growth before veg between the two lights. So one question I have been asking myself is, if one set of plants is lagging a little behind the other set, should I pull the lagging side out, put it up in the other tent and continue to veg that set until it is ready to be flipped to 12/12 with the other LED's plants? Or should they both flipped at the same time? Would love to hear some input on this, as I've seen SettingSun come across a similar question when it comes to harvest.... Thanks in advance.

dont you think it would be hard to keep things fair on both side doing SCROG on a side by side test? wouldn't it be better to just let each grow as they grow, to see what light penetrates better then the other and give more bottom growth? if you SCROG then that takes the purpose out of seeing the penetration of what each like can do. dont you think?

 

[go green]

re: LED GROW-OFF Part Deux: Hydro Grow LED 205w vs. 180w UFO

Hello?

What's the goings ons heres?

-GO

 

[wizewizo]

re: LED GROW-OFF Part Deux: Hydro Grow LED 205w vs. 180w UFO

Hey Go,

Sorry for not updating shit here, dealing with some issues atm. Everything looks great as per the LED grow. Hopefully going to be flipping them to bloom this evening provided there is enough time in the day. Shits been beyond hectic as of late, but I promise you guys it'll be worth the wait once you see what other project has been keeping me busy.... hint hint: Spinnin'

 

[DroJo]

re: LED GROW-OFF Part Deux: Hydro Grow LED 205w vs. 180w UFO

my guess is you got yourself a wheel?

 

[wizewizo]

Re: LED GROW-OFF Part Deux: Hydro Grow LED 205w vs. 180w UFO

my guess is you got yourself a wheel?

LOL, sorry to talk shit on the wheel, but you cant flip plants upside down and expect them to grow great. You fuck their hormones all up and get very very spindly buds....

Was a good guess, but this system shatters that wheel of death hands down!!!!

I got IT up and goin right now and doin a test run to see how the temps are inside it, before putting some new cuttings in.

Stay tuned.... its almost here, hehe

 

[Keith Lake]

Re: LED GROW-OFF Part Deux: Hydro Grow LED 205w vs. 180w UFO

All respect

Check these out though - small by design, it's similar I think to Speescees 12/12 from seed method. Cola on a stick - many colas in a small area.

This was a 3 lb grow

 

[IrishBoy]

Re: LED GROW-OFF Part Deux: Hydro Grow LED 205w vs. 180w UFO

All respect

Check these out though - small by design, it's similar I think to Speescees 12/12 from seed method. Cola on a stick - many colas in a small area.

This was a 3 lb grow

thats a bad ass grow

 

[logitech227]

Re: LED GROW-OFF Part Deux: Hydro Grow LED 205w vs. 180w UFO

I hope my little plants form into that!!!! That is awesome. How the hell are those watered? Does the wheel actually revolve around the light? That would make since in order to water everything. Shiiiiit I want one...

 

[wizewizo]

Re: LED GROW-OFF Part Deux: Hydro Grow LED 205w vs. 180w UFO

Alrighty.....

So here we go folks, my new project....

A look inside

Got 6 Dream Queens and 6 Blue Moon Rocks spinnin' away...

I will be updating the LED journal this evening guys I promise. Such a huge burden off my shoulders now that this baby is all set up.


Here's a bit of info on the unit I am using.....

The Spinner
A Plant Rotating Vertical Garden

The Spinner is a fully enclosed hydroponic growth chamber in which the individual plants are automatically rotated on their axis, exposing the entire plant to a centrally mounted light source. The roots are automatically fed via "flood-and-drain", and the atmosphere is controlled via one 125 CFM exhaust fan. What this means is that the plants within the Spinner receive the ultimate care, with very little maintenance. Typically the Spinner yields a greater dry plant mass with approximately 450 watts of power than a traditional hydroponic system using over 1000 watts.

Talk to you all soon.....