Jon's Second Grow, First Grow Journal, Soil Grow Autos & Photoperiod

Photoperiod: Day 16 Veg
Autoflower: Day 5 Veg

Photoperiod
:
A few tweaks, and some realizations/actions. In the picture below you see the girls today on the morning of Day 16. All is well in phototown. You can see their environmental conditions as well which are working very well. I compared yesterday morning's picture to this morning's picture, and you can clearly see the uptick in the girl's growth - not so much size-wise as adjustment to the transplant-wise. I didn't need the picture because I could see it with my eyes, but it helps to compare using photos. They are significantly more perked up this morning than they were yesterday. This is of course what I was hoping to see this morning. The tweaks were just fan position adjustment so that the girls get a steady but not windy diet of moving air and are constantly "jiggling," and the addition of pavers to raise the pots off the overflow trays.

Here is the realization/action (this post is particularly for newbie growers like me who think they've thought of everything and have all their bases covered); You can't have a pot sitting in the water you will have from runoff, even if you vacuum/remove the excess water immediately. The pot and dirt will absorb this water and screw your watering cycle up completely as water pools in the bottom of the pot. Well DUH, right? Not so duh. Especially if, like me, this is your first time using fabric pots. I never thought far enough ahead on this particular topic to anticipate the need to raise the pots from the trays. Thought I was all good. Then as I looked at yesterday's picture it hit me that I needed to raise the pots.

The fix for the one gallons, as you see in the picture, was to simply raise them with pavers, which works well because it allows me to put an extra paver under each Pineapple Upside Down Cake and/or adjust height as desired of individual plants. These two girls are behind the other three in terms of size. I raised them an extra paver because by doing so all five plants are the same distance from the light, with the PUCs being maybe even an inch or two closer. This is my attempt to help them play catch up, lol. The rate of growth the PUCs are exhibiting is what I expected from all the plants, not this incredible Hulk thing the Blueberry Muffin and Jelly Ranchers are exhibiting.

But then I also realized that those same pavers are not going to work for the five gallon pots that will be the girl's next and final home. They aren't large enough to support the base of the pots evenly. So that sent me into research/find out if there's a product for this mode. There almost always is, and it's almost always better than whatever MacGuyver thing one can come up with. If it's within reach financially I often begin there, cuz I figure any question I have, EVER, about a grow has been asked by someone before me. And indeed that was the case. There's a million "raise your container" products out there. I got some plastic 13" round trays with plastic, very sturdy feet underneath that sit inside the round runoff trays and the plants on top of that, allowing a two inch space between the bottom of the pot and the floor of the tent. All the runoff will still go into the bottom round tray. Yay. Problem solved.

The next watering is a regular water dealio, then we begin the addition of the second part of the FF nutrient trio, the Grow Big. Can't wait to see how the girls respond to that. Other than that, for a good while now the girls stay at these environmental conditions as seen in the picture, they grow, and they get themselves ready for a topping sometime very soon.

Autoflowers:
Sometimes you have to make decisions that cause you pain. Lol. I have made one. These autos look the same this morning as they did on day one. No picture cuz there's nothing to show. They aren't moving, as I've already said in earlier posts. It's been five days. At the same time, today I get six more auto seeds in the mail - 3 Pineapple Express and 3 Lemon autos. I was already planning to add one PE to the mix when these seeds arrived. But now I have decided that I'm adding TWO more autos which will hit the paper towels today - one PE and one Lemon. I am going to attempt to sprout them and put them in with the others. That will give me two different strains to compare to the others. Assuming the two new ones come up "normally," (I'll have the others to compare to), they will stay. At that point (this should be around Monday or Tuesday) I will compare them to the four original girls. If at that point I feel the four originals are too stunted or compromised to produce for a plant that is compromised to begin with by it's very nature, I will very hesitantly pull them. I have a strong feeling that is what will happen. Then I will pop the other PEs and Lemons and continue with those 6 total of those two auto strains.

It'll hurt if that is what happens. Not only because of the wasted time/effort, and the waste of $50 worth of seeds, but because of the failure. My first major fail. Not a fan at all. But the one thing I know for sure is that it is absolutely impossible that I got four dud seeds out of four seeds. No way. That means, like in my opinion is always the case, that the autos not getting off the ground is my fault. I screwed up somehow. So I don't dwell. Instead I try to learn from it and figure out what I did wrong so as to not make the same mistake. In this case I believe it is because I was impatient and planted the seeds before the tap root was long enough, and perhaps too deep. But it may well be something else - maybe they don't like the soil, maybe I overwatered them, maybe it's a strain specific problem, etc. So for newbies - when you screw up, don't despair, learn from it. But understand it is NEVER the plant's fault.

Final thought
:
I reiterate for experienced growers who wonder why I'm posting such basic information that part of the point of this whole journal is to hopefully provide newbie's like me a look at the process this newbie is going through. I believe I made and make all the common errors new growers inevitably make and I think I do a decent job overcoming them, so the hope is that my experience has some value for new growers. I don't mean to bore any readers who already know this stuff like the back of their hands, like raising up your pot. Duh again. OF COURSE you have to raise your pots. But in growing I have found that not everything that's obvious is always so obvious. Lol.

Happy Growing guys!

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Photoperiod: Day 16 Veg
Autoflower: Day 5 Veg

Photoperiod
:
A few tweaks, and some realizations/actions. In the picture below you see the girls today on the morning of Day 16. All is well in phototown. You can see their environmental conditions as well which are working very well. I compared yesterday morning's picture to this morning's picture, and you can clearly see the uptick in the girl's growth - not so much size-wise as adjustment to the transplant-wise. I didn't need the picture because I could see it with my eyes, but it helps to compare using photos. They are significantly more perked up this morning than they were yesterday. This is of course what I was hoping to see this morning. The tweaks were just fan position adjustment so that the girls get a steady but not windy diet of moving air and are constantly "jiggling," and the addition of pavers to raise the pots off the overflow trays.

Here is the realization/action (this post is particularly for newbie growers like me who think they've thought of everything and have all their bases covered); You can't have a pot sitting in the water you will have from runoff, even if you vacuum/remove the excess water immediately. The pot and dirt will absorb this water and screw your watering cycle up completely as water pools in the bottom of the pot. Well DUH, right? Not so duh. Especially if, like me, this is your first time using fabric pots. I never thought far enough ahead on this particular topic to anticipate the need to raise the pots from the trays. Thought I was all good. Then as I looked at yesterday's picture it hit me that I needed to raise the pots.

The fix for the one gallons, as you see in the picture, was to simply raise them with pavers, which works well because it allows me to put an extra paver under each Pineapple Upside Down Cake and/or adjust height as desired of individual plants. These two girls are behind the other three in terms of size. I raised them an extra paver because by doing so all five plants are the same distance from the light, with the PUCs being maybe even an inch or two closer. This is my attempt to help them play catch up, lol. The rate of growth the PUCs are exhibiting is what I expected from all the plants, not this incredible Hulk thing the Blueberry Muffin and Jelly Ranchers are exhibiting.

But then I also realized that those same pavers are not going to work for the five gallon pots that will be the girl's next and final home. They aren't large enough to support the base of the pots evenly. So that sent me into research/find out if there's a product for this mode. There almost always is, and it's almost always better than whatever MacGuyver thing one can come up with. If it's within reach financially I often begin there, cuz I figure any question I have, EVER, about a grow has been asked by someone before me. And indeed that was the case. There's a million "raise your container" products out there. I got some plastic 13" round trays with plastic, very sturdy feet underneath that sit inside the round runoff trays and the plants on top of that, allowing a two inch space between the bottom of the pot and the floor of the tent. All the runoff will still go into the bottom round tray. Yay. Problem solved.

The next watering is a regular water dealio, then we begin the addition of the second part of the FF nutrient trio, the Grow Big. Can't wait to see how the girls respond to that. Other than that, for a good while now the girls stay at these environmental conditions as seen in the picture, they grow, and they get themselves ready for a topping sometime very soon.

Autoflowers:
Sometimes you have to make decisions that cause you pain. Lol. I have made one. These autos look the same this morning as they did on day one. No picture cuz there's nothing to show. They aren't moving, as I've already said in earlier posts. It's been five days. At the same time, today I get six more auto seeds in the mail - 3 Pineapple Express and 3 Lemon autos. I was already planning to add one PE to the mix when these seeds arrived. But now I have decided that I'm adding TWO more autos which will hit the paper towels today - one PE and one Lemon. I am going to attempt to sprout them and put them in with the others. That will give me two different strains to compare to the others. Assuming the two new ones come up "normally," (I'll have the others to compare to), they will stay. At that point (this should be around Monday or Tuesday) I will compare them to the four original girls. If at that point I feel the four originals are too stunted or compromised to produce for a plant that is compromised to begin with by it's very nature, I will very hesitantly pull them. I have a strong feeling that is what will happen. Then I will pop the other PEs and Lemons and continue with those 6 total of those two auto strains.

It'll hurt if that is what happens. Not only because of the wasted time/effort, and the waste of $50 worth of seeds, but because of the failure. My first major fail. Not a fan at all. But the one thing I know for sure is that it is absolutely impossible that I got four dud seeds out of four seeds. No way. That means, like in my opinion is always the case, that the autos not getting off the ground is my fault. I screwed up somehow. So I don't dwell. Instead I try to learn from it and figure out what I did wrong so as to not make the same mistake. In this case I believe it is because I was impatient and planted the seeds before the tap root was long enough, and perhaps too deep. But it may well be something else - maybe they don't like the soil, maybe I overwatered them, maybe it's a strain specific problem, etc. So for newbies - when you screw up, don't despair, learn from it. But understand it is NEVER the plant's fault.

Final thought
:
I reiterate for experienced growers who wonder why I'm posting such basic information that part of the point of this whole journal is to hopefully provide newbie's like me a look at the process this newbie is going through. I believe I made and make all the common errors new growers inevitably make and I think I do a decent job overcoming them, so the hope is that my experience has some value for new growers. I don't mean to bore any readers who already know this stuff like the back of their hands, like raising up your pot. Duh again. OF COURSE you have to raise your pots. But in growing I have found that not everything that's obvious is always so obvious. Lol.

Happy Growing guys!

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I don't think your giving mundane info. Everything is relevant. Like you said we all make mistakes, just make a note and keep moving forward. We all learn from each other and do our best. Thing are looking good my friend.
 
I don't think your giving mundane info. Everything is relevant. Like you said we all make mistakes, just make a note and keep moving forward. We all learn from each other and do our best. Thing are looking good my friend.
Thanks Bill. I almost think these grow journals would have more value if we all posted more about what we're doing wrong and how we fixed it versus the bud porn pictures we all love to post so much. Lmao! Nobody likes to brag about their mistakes, at least I don't. But then you aren't really posting a true picture of your grow, are you? I like to see EVERYTHING. You never know when you might see something that just makes something click in your head and suddenly you finally "get" something. I've gotten that from pictures or sentences that had nothing to do with what it helped me to understand. So yeah man, let them freak flags fly!! There's just as much if not more value in sharing one's mistakes!!!!!
 
Thanks Bill. I almost think these grow journals would have more value if we all posted more about what we're doing wrong and how we fixed it versus the bud porn pictures we all love to post so much. Lmao! Nobody likes to brag about their mistakes, at least I don't. But then you aren't really posting a true picture of your grow, are you? I like to see EVERYTHING. You never know when you might see something that just makes something click in your head and suddenly you finally "get" something. I've gotten that from pictures or sentences that had nothing to do with what it helped me to understand. So yeah man, let them freak flags fly!! There's just as much if not more value in sharing one's mistakes!!!!!
I don't think the internet is big enough to post all my mistakes. Hehe. Back then I didn't have a single person to ask questions, so I'm sure I checked off the list of things not to do.
 
I don't think the internet is big enough to post all my mistakes. Hehe. Back then I didn't have a single person to ask questions, so I'm sure I checked off the list of things not to do.
Ha! "Back then" for me is my first grow a whole eight months ago. :laughtwo: This conversation is inspiring me. I did my first grow journal on paper, all printed out with a cover sheet and all that OCD stuff. Lol. Two pages of it is me looking back after the buds were in jars curing and the list of mistakes I had already identified. I further updated that list another couple months later after doing more research. Maybe I'll post a separate post specifically of my list from Grow One since it's fresh and it might save some first time grower a few headaches. I got lucky in that one of my best friends is a professional, licensed grower in Oregon who has been growing 30+ years and has both a massive greenhouse/various lighting combo (four of them, all with living soil and the screens that come down over the entire outside, as big as barns) and a sweet, huge indoor LED setup. I have had the luck to have his ear at will. He's like you - I would ask a question and his basic thing would be, "Jeez, lemme see if I can remember that far back, it's been years since I had to think about that..." LMAO!! But he has helped me out a ton and is one of the main reasons my first grow turned out acceptable instead of horrible. Cuz I tried hard to screw it up as best I could. :Rasta:So I totally understand how tough it is and how lucky I got because without that I would have had nothing to show from my first grow I suspect.

Just cuz bud porn is awesome and this one is pretty damn juicy, here's a picture from one of my Oregon buddy's greenhouses showing some Lemon Tree and NYC Diesel from his last harvest. This exact harvest of Lemon Tree is the strain and plants that got him invited this year to compete in his first ever Cannabis Cup. He's all excited.

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Ha! "Back then" for me is my first grow a whole eight months ago. :laughtwo: This conversation is inspiring me. I did my first grow journal on paper, all printed out with a cover sheet and all that OCD stuff. Lol. Two pages of it is me looking back after the buds were in jars curing and the list of mistakes I had already identified. I further updated that list another couple months later after doing more research. Maybe I'll post a separate post specifically of my list from Grow One since it's fresh and it might save some first time grower a few headaches. I got lucky in that one of my best friends is a professional, licensed grower in Oregon who has been growing 30+ years and has both a massive greenhouse/various lighting combo (four of them, all with living soil and the screens that come down over the entire outside, as big as barns) and a sweet, huge indoor LED setup. I have had the luck to have his ear at will. He's like you - I would ask a question and his basic thing would be, "Jeez, lemme see if I can remember that far back, it's been years since I had to think about that..." LMAO!! But he has helped me out a ton and is one of the main reasons my first grow turned out acceptable instead of horrible. Cuz I tried hard to screw it up as best I could. :Rasta:So I totally understand how tough it is and how lucky I got because without that I would have had nothing to show from my first grow I suspect.

Just cuz bud porn is awesome and this one is pretty damn juicy, here's a picture from one of my Oregon buddy's greenhouses showing some Lemon Tree and NYC Diesel from his last harvest. This exact harvest of Lemon Tree is the strain and plants that got him invited this year to compete in his first ever Cannabis Cup. He's all excited.

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3 weeks before harvest i left a light on in flower room . I regular old light. Its disconnected now but then feck. That's the first to come to mind. Oh crap now I got anxiety thinking about all that stuff that went wrong. Thats brilliant though lets start a thread so everyone can post their horror/funny mistakes.
 
3 weeks before harvest i left a light on in flower room . I regular old light. Its disconnected now but then feck. That's the first to come to mind. Oh crap now I got anxiety thinking about all that stuff that went wrong. Thats brilliant though lets start a thread so everyone can post their horror/funny mistakes.
I'm on it! I'll tag you. And lol. Cool. I just now found out that the one circuit my Autoflower tent is on is drawing more than 75% of the 15 amp GFI. I thought it was a 20. So when the system does it's spike thing periodically it cuts the strips to that tent. This is now the third time it's happened. So far I have been lucky. But I can't rewire. So I just had to find an extension cord and replug it into a different place inside the house so I had a 20 amp circuit. I was in the garage looking at them and all of a sudden the whole tent went off. Lmao. Talk about anxiety. Thankfully it had already happened and even though I thought I had it taken care of (thought it was moisture hitting the strip from the AC unit above it so I simply moved the strip) I knew at least the temporary and immediate solution. Now it's "hey guys, I need to tape this cord down and leave it here taped down on the floor for the next 90 days or so, is that cool?" :laughtwo:
 
Today's update is all about overcoming mistakes and learning stuff as you go along.

This morning was about 36 hours since transplanting the photos, and just by looking at them I knew it was time to check to see if they had drained the pot and were ready for a drink. I pulled the plant that appeared the driest. Then I took my hydrometer and stuck it all the way to the bottom of the pot and let it sit a few minutes. The moisture meter read DRY. Like all the way dry in the unit's dry range. Perfect. Time for a drink. So I watered that plant. Then, as I did in my first grow, I grabbed the next driest looking plant and almost watered her. Then I thought about it. I used the hydrometer again. This plant showed a little moist. Just a hair over the wet end of the dry indication. BUT IT HAD NOT USED ALL THE WATER IN THE POT YET. Therefore, I did not water it. I don't water until the pot is bone dry from the previous watering.

BUT HERE'S THE LEARN: I think I operated the first grow much like many a new grower. When it was "watering day" I simply watered all the plants. I didn't use a hydrometer. My "check to see if they need water" was the two inch dry on top method. That method is garbage. Sure, it'll let you know your soil is dry two inches down. But what about the rest of the pot? Just because the pot is dry two inches down does NOT necessarily mean the plant is ready for a watering. In that moment I picked up the second plant, I realized that I had committed a very common error on my first grow that I hadn't realized yet: I watered every plant every time on the same schedule. DUH. Why? In what universe is every plant going to uptake water at the exact same rate? Answer: no universe. Every plant needs to be watered only when it needs water, NOT just because you have decided today is watering day.

I was very pleased to come to that rather obvious realization. I share it because it's on that long list of things that may seem obvious but in reality are not. For what it's worth to those just learning this art as I am.

I don't know that my technique is the "right" way. This is what is working for me.
 
Photoperiod: Day 18 Veg
Autoflower: Day 7 Veg


Photoperiod:
The girls are very happy in their new homes. All five plants are well into their fourth set of leaves. Topping these ladies is on the horizon. There is no chance they make it into the five gallon pots before I top. Next watering for them begins the second part of the Fox Farms nute cycle as well. Took them about 36 hours to drain the pot to bone dry after the transplant watering.

Numbers:
Average Temperature: 68 (low overnight) - 78 (high during day)
Average Humidity: 60 percent
Lights: Full power at 16" drawing 580 true watts and measuring 850 par on my meter at canopy level
Ph Runoff: 5.9-6.4

The Impending Topping:
I am topping using "Uncle Ben's method," which basically is topping after the fifth node is out down to between node two and three. In theory this will give me four main colas per plant. So this of course brings me a whole world of stress, lol. The plants are BEAUTIFUL. I don't want to cut them. It's going to hurt me to do it. I have no doubt they're going to handle it just fine, it's just the psychological aspect of it. I know that's silly, but silly or not it's real. Maybe a new grower thing. I topped five of six plants my first grow but all I did was snip above the highest node, and WAY too late. And they were just fine. It's not exactly rocket science. Had I not decided on the method I am using after much discussion, I likely would have topped at least the three big girls already. I do have a few questions about this topping if anyone has some input on any of these:

- Should I top all five plants at the same time? Three are bigger and the same size, two are a little smaller (the PUCs). Would it maybe make sense to top the three big girls first and let the PUCs "catch up" height-wise a little bit? (The goal is a scrog grow, I'm thinking in terms of working eventually as even a scrog screen as possible)
- Are there any watering routine changes that should happen in conjunction with a topping?
- How long should I expect these girls to take to "recover" from this travesty I'm going to lay on them?
- Is it just me or does anyone else experience this "topping stress?" :laughtwo:

Thanks in advance if anyone has any insight on those, I appreciate it gang!

Autoflowers:
Finally the autos are starting to behave like they're "supposed" to, ie, they are growing. They are going to be alright I believe. I will make that decision tomorrow about what to do with them. In the meantime, I put one of the Pineapple Express (420 Fast Buds) autos and one of the Lemon autos between wet paper towels and both have popped. (still have a perfect record on popping seeds, I'm sure that's destined to end sometime soon, lol) If I decide to pull a couple of the others I'll pop the rest of the Pineapple Express and go with the keepers of the first four and three PE and 1 Lemon. Still nothing photo worthy. And I'm making damn sure the taproot is big enough before these girls hit the dirt. Continue to think that's the problem with the first four getting off the ground.

So rather than a group shot, I decided to go with closeups of each of the strains. Pretty decent veg porn. These pictures were taken five minutes after the lights came on this morning. In order top to bottom is the Blueberry Muffin, the Jelly Rancher, and the Pineapple Upside Down Cake. These guys are stacking hard. It's beautiful to watch.

Thanks for stopping by guys and for the help.

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I like topping above the fifth, and remove the
Bottom two internodes, leaving three in tact for a hexline. It’s not necessary to top more then once, but who’s to say, one way or the other is the “right way”. Everyone’s different and has there own methods, but yeah, I’m a firm believer on only topping once. That’s just the way I grew to grow.. ;)
haha see what I did there lol
 
Topping tutorial


Transplanting, and training.
Thanks for the response and the videos. Yes, I am only going to top once. I don't know from experience, but it makes sense to me what I read, that you can top all day but each time you "water down" the colas a little more. You know what I mean? Do you agree with that? I'm going to have my hands full topping them once for god's sake. Lol.
 
I absolutely agree with that statement above!! :thumb: :high-five:
These things are stacking so hard already and they all already have little branches coming out of nodes - it's crazy - so different from the first plants I grew - what a HUGE difference a real light makes, my god - I almost think I don't really have to top any of them. They're gonna be bushy despite being sativa leaning hybrids. But of course I'm going to cuz the cola count must be upped. Lol. The one Jelly Rancher is outgrowing all the other four plants. This girl is the Incredible Hulk and she's going absolutely apeshit. I'm going to likely top her today as her fifth node is pretty well popped out and that's my sign that with the method I'm using it's time to chop her. Damn, she's so pretty I really don't want to and I know it's going to shock her for a day or two. Damn. But chop her I must.

So in terms of counting nodes, the first node/set of leaves that counts is the lowest leaves that have three prongs, correct? That's node number one?

Here's a side shot of the girls as they look right now, and a shot from above. I tried to get down to plant level to show stacking and height. You see the girl on the back right in the picture? That's the Jelly Rancher who is going nuts. The other Jelly Rancher is the plant front left. I believe I have two different phenos of this strain, as they are growing differently and you can tell one is more sativa-like and the other is more indica-like. The two Pineapple Upside Down Cakes look to be the same, and there's only one of the Blueberry Muffins.

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Yes, you start with the cotyledons. Which are designed to make the plant sprout so the plant can start photosynthesis and start feeding its self. Then the first serrated set of leaves would be the first internode.



this is what I do, top above the fifth, remove the bottom two internodes leaving three in tact for a hexline.

the numbers in the photos are the number of internode they are. #1 being the lowest, and #3 being the top internode.

I explain this all better in my journal.
 
Yes, you start with the cotyledons. Which are designed to make the plant sprout so the plant can start photosynthesis and start feeding its self. Then the first serrated set of leaves would be the first internode.



this is what I do, top above the fifth, remove the bottom two internodes leaving three in tact for a hexline.

the numbers in the photos are the number of internode they are. #1 being the lowest, and #3 being the top internode.

I explain this all better in my journal.
I understand. That is exactly what I intend to do. Although you have a hex. I'm thinking I'll be able to do the same thing but get an "8" instead of a six. If I get the guaranteed four colas from the top. Right? In theory? Regardless, the important part is the separation and evenness of the spacing out you did and all that. I'm going to do just that with whatever the plant gives me to work with. But yes. And once you open up the center like that all that center area gets tons of light and a bunch of new growth comes out from there, correct? Then with that and the tie downs I form my canopy at the screen. It all sounds so logical and easy in theory. Lol!
 
I understand. That is exactly what I intend to do. Although you have a hex. I'm thinking I'll be able to do the same thing but get an "8" instead of a six. If I get the guaranteed four colas from the top. Right? In theory? Regardless, the important part is the separation and evenness of the spacing out you did and all that. I'm going to do just that with whatever the plant gives me to work with. But yes. And once you open up the center like that all that center area gets tons of light and a bunch of new growth comes out from there, correct? Then with that and the tie downs I form my canopy at the screen. It all sounds so logical and easy in theory. Lol!
Thank for the help and the dialogue man. I really appreciate it. So not saying I live there, but I know someone in Florida who is a licensed patient and tells me that today the Florida state government is voting on legislation to limit the THC level of any pot product sold to 10%. Ten fricking percent. Are you serious? Lol. That'll put all their dispensaries out of business the next day. Who in god's name wants to smoke 10% weed? And who even could? The worst weed I could find if I was LOOKING for crappy weed would be higher than 10%. You hear about this crap?
 
I understand. That is exactly what I intend to do. Although you have a hex. I'm thinking I'll be able to do the same thing but get an "8" instead of a six. If I get the guaranteed four colas from the top. Right? In theory? Regardless, the important part is the separation and evenness of the spacing out you did and all that. I'm going to do just that with whatever the plant gives me to work with. But yes. And once you open up the center like that all that center area gets tons of light and a bunch of new growth comes out from there, correct? Then with that and the tie downs I form my canopy at the screen. It all sounds so logical and easy in theory. Lol!
That is exactly correct.

to a T!

here’s what the plant looks like now after the middle filled in.
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Thank for the help and the dialogue man. I really appreciate it. So not saying I live there, but I know someone in Florida who is a licensed patient and tells me that today the Florida state government is voting on legislation to limit the THC level of any pot product sold to 10%. Ten fricking percent. Are you serious? Lol. That'll put all their dispensaries out of business the next day. Who in god's name wants to smoke 10% weed? And who even could? The worst weed I could find if I was LOOKING for crappy weed would be higher than 10%. You hear about this crap?
Never heard about that. I’m in Alberta Canada so it don’t bother me lol
 
That is exactly correct.

to a T!

here’s what the plant looks like now after the middle filled in.
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Never heard about that. I’m in Alberta Canada so it don’t bother me lol
Wow! I see. Damn, that really fills in. Now you got me all worried that five plants in my 5x5 in five gallon pots is going to be too much! :laughtwo:
 
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