Jon's Second Grow, First Grow Journal, Soil Grow Autos & Photoperiod

[Michael Hunt]

Auto Alley Update
Day 73
Solo Jelly Rancher Update
Day 84 Grow/Day 5 Flower

These used to be Autotown updates until the solo Jelly Rancher muscled in on their territory and took the place over. So we'll combine updates on these two, the autos and the solo JR.

Autotown is now Auto Alley, in the narrow space between my place and next door, outside in the sun, along a white wall on the side of the house. Hidden from view to anyone walking by or driving by. No way to actually see the plants until you're standing in front of them. That said, I can't do anything about the odor, and it's significant. It's got about a 50 foot circle of smell around it right now which reaches to the sidewalk in front of all the houses. Lmao. I wonder if people are walking by and wondering where the hell that odor is coming from. At night I bring them inside the garage so they don't mysteriously disappear just in case someone were to follow their nose and get to the plants.

Moving them outdoors was the only option as Jelly needed a place to bud. And that cut their light from 22 hours a day to whatever the time is from me putting them out at 6 am and bringing them in at total darkness, about 14-15 hours a day. Way less light and way more rest/recovery time at night. And I gotta tell you, to my inexperienced eyes, the plants are doing BETTER than they were before. They have literally EXPLODED. The ones that I thought were really close to budding, ie, the Cinderella Jack #3 and the Lemon #1, appear to have begun a second phase of growth on the budding. Both of them, almost already mature to my eyes, are now shooting out new growth on the buds at the tops and sides at a rate I haven't seen the entire grow. You can see what I mean in the picture of Lemon #1. Note that the very tops are that little new top bud growth we've all seen. What you are seeing is what grew OVERNIGHT. That will all fill out today and the bud will be that much taller. This is happening every day since they hit the sunlight. They are getting fatter at the same rate too. I definitely took the first two Cinderella plants too soon I see now, despite what the trichomes were telling me. Cuz here's the thing, @Michael Hunt, we were talking about when the plants are ready to harvest and trichomes, right? Well the way the trichomes looked on the remaining Cinderella Jack at the time of our discussion, what, a week ago(?), is EXACTLY how they still look. The harvest window in terms of how slowly the amber comes in, is WAY longer than we think sometimes I guess is the lesson I learn there. The buds are awesome from those Cinderellas I already harvested, so I can't imagine how good the one that's left will be. She's so dense and so much fatter than the others and way more mature. And she's still got time. As long as all the bottom green growth I left at the bottom is nice "growing" green color, they ain't ready. When it starts to turn yellow and brown and all that, like the top leaves were getting, it will be close to ready. I check the trichs every day anyway, just saying. I believe they really like the sun (that's obvious), but more importantly, I think they like having more down time. I now believe that a 22/2 light cycle like I used on these guys is too much. I should have gone 20/4 or even 18/6. I will try that next time. The 18/6 is attractive cuz it increases options of where to grow the plant in case I have a photo tent vegging and need some space or something. I just can't account for this explosion of growth and increase in all activity any other way than because of the real sun and the increased down time, cuz other than that, their nutes haven't changed and their watering hasn't changed. I did successfully clean up a slight CalMag/still wanting a little veg nutes issue, but that hardly accounts for it and that was only on the Pineapples for the most part. Anyway, I have pics of all the plants below. Couldn't get to both the last two Pineapple Express, it's muddy out there and I was afraid I'd get stuck in the electric chair. Lol. That sucks when that happens and I gotta call my roomie to come tow me out. Lmao!

So onto the beast. This Jelly Rancher is digging her new digs big time. She's obviously got unlimited space and she loves that. She is enjoying the light situation as well. A little bit of stretch going on at the same time as they are forming actual buds, which is kinda weird, no? The buds themselves are starting to look pretty damn well developed for only five days of budding. I believe this girl is going to produce very well. There are a couple yellowing leaves in various spots - I cleared that up with a big flush and a CalMag plus Iron bath yesterday, and you can see all the new growth is nicely green. just a few leaves. Easily fixed.

That brings us up to date on all these guys. Enjoy the pics guys, there's some sweet ass looking plants if I do say so myself. If only I had something to do with it, lol. Natural sunlight rules.

Photographs:

- Lemon 1
- Lemon 2
- Cinderella Jack 3 (photograph itself is mistitled by me, it's a CJ)
- Pineapple Express 1
- Pineapple Express 2 and 3
- Solo Jelly Rancher Day 5 flower

I'm sure some of the "good ol boys" down here would happily set you up with a winch and cable for the chair

All jokes aside, Those auto's look incredible. I see what you're saying about the trichome window now lol. Every time i check them, they dont look much different from the day before. Honestly, this revelation has relieved a huge amount of stress for me so thank you for that. Keep on doing what you're doing and getting pointers from your Guru. You are seriously killing it!

 

[Jon]

Cinderella Jack #3 Autoflower
Harvest Watch
Day 73
Small Experiment Bonus

I have been checking this girl religiously because she has appeared ready for a while now. It appears for the last couple days that her growth has finished. Most of her leaves have turned or are turning. And of course the bottom line for me, as always, is the trichomes. That is what I have been checking religiously. And today, based on the below pictures of three separate bud's trichomes (plus a few more I didn't post), I deemed her ready to harvest. This is actually a tiny bit more amber than I prefer even though it's not much. Not 10%. Maybe 5% amber. But the important thing to me is that they are showing on every bud. It's pretty common for the buds to not show amber at the same time, even on the same plant. So I like to wait until all the buds show it. That is the case today.

So I decided to do one last thing with this girl before chopping her. I am trying the "finish in the dark" idea with her. So I put her in a dark, windowless bathroom with a fan and into total darkness she goes for the next 36 hours. I want to see if it's true that doing this will make the plant toss out trichomes and terpenes as a last ditch defense mechanism, which is my basic understanding of what supposedly happens. I have also let her get pretty damn dry as I knew she was real close. I wouldn't say she's bone dry, but if she were not getting the chop I would water her. Supposedly letting the plant get real dry at the end has a similar effect as the dark treatment. Any way to stress the plant to get it to defend itself I guess is the basic concept behind both these ideas as I understand it. If this understanding needs correction, please feel free to educate me, guys, and thank you. I will take some trichome pictures after the 36 hours of darkness and see if there's any noticeable difference. Small experiment, but an experiment nonetheless. Fun.

Onto the pictures.

Photographs:

- Final picture of Cinderella Jack #3 before she gets chopped
- Trichome shot bud 1
- Trichome shot bud 2
- Trichome shot bud 3

Happy Growing guys! That'll be four autos down, five to go. Getting there. No hurry. But that will do it for the four autos I planted first..

 

[Jon]

PHENOTYPE QUESTIONS
Lemon Autoflowers #1 and #2
Day 65 (#1)
Day 61 (#2)

Hi guys. I am trying to learn how to identify different phenotypes. I am not really sure why it matters other than comparison reasons and curiosity, at least when it comes to autos. It's not as if you can clone them. I guess when it comes to photos the idea is (or ONE idea that seems good to me) to grow like ten or twelve of the same plant, with the intention of growing out say the best five or six or something. Then you get into checking each plant and how it grows, what there is to like about it and not like about it, the symmetry, the rate of growth, etc. I suppose you can pick the "best" phenotypes in your estimation, and then grow those out. While that's going on I guess you continue to closely observe. How much does each pheno you selected stretch? How fast do they flower? Bud formation? Nutrient uptake? Water intake? How quickly they recover from pruning or topping? How well they take to LST or HST or scrog or sog? I would imagine all these things go into some kind of "final" selection of a pheno to clone and keep going with as a mother plant, yes? And I guess the breeders are basically doing this on a much larger scale as they select phenos to cross and such, yes? That's sort of my fledgling understanding of it.

So it occurred to me that I have potentially a good example and I wanted to get your guy's input on this if you're so inclined. These are my two Lemon autos. Two very surprising plants that are handsome as hell and the picture of health. Lemon 1 is 65, Lemon 2 is 61. They both have weeks to go by my estimation and inexperienced eye. But also to my rookie eyes they appear to be two almost completely different plants. Lemon 1 has significantly darker leaves, although the shape of the leaves on the two plants is approximately the same. If you look at them from fifteen feet away they are such different colors that they look like different strains altogether. But look at the bud formation. Lemon 1 is making footballs. Lemon 2 is making some of the most consistently straight up and down sativa type buds I've ever seen on a plant. They are almost perfectly straight and fattening up in a perfectly symmetrical way all around the buds, unlike on Lemon 1. Lemon 1 has buds growing all over the place. She has offshoot buds on her in various places. Completely different shape to the buds. Look at the tops of the buds. Lemon 1 grows like that - popping up new growth in little pointy bundles like that. Lemon 2 bud tops are perfectly round and just get bigger as perfectly rounded. They do smell the same, and they have grown at pretty much the same exact rate. They also had approximately the same number of offshoot bud branches and seem to be generating about the same amount of bud. They leaf up at the same rate. They intake water and nutes at the same rate. The only difference there is that Lemon 1, getting the exact same nutes on the exact same schedule as Lemon 2, shows yellow tips from the Tiger Bloom dosage, which Lemon 2 does not. I don't know if that's a significant or noteworthy difference or not.

Anyway, do I have two different Lemon phenotypes here? Educate me, please! Thanks!

Photographs:
(NOTE: I mislabeled the black labels of the photographs, ignore them, first pic is L1, second is L2)

- Pair of Lemons
- Lemon 1 day 65
- Lemon 2 day 61

 

[StoneOtter]

You may very well have. I'm not sure that's the correct term for it. A shift towards one parent or another is what I think is happening. In my garden today I have a Black Poison Skunk that's growing terpine wise very different than the one before it. Maybe someone knows breeding more than I can clear it up for us.

 

[Jon]

You may very well have. I'm not sure that's the correct term for it. A shift towards one parent or another is what I think is happening. In my garden today I have a Black Poison Skunk that's growing terpine wise very different than the one before it. Maybe someone knows breeding more than I can clear it up for us.

Black Poison Skunk sounds like a very interesting strain. Got any pics you can share? I'd love to see what it looks like. Got any finished bud pics of it? I'm always on the lookout for interesting strains to try growing.

 

[StoneOtter]

Black Poison Skunk sounds like a very interesting strain. Got any pics you can share? I'd love to see what it looks like. Got any finished bud pics of it? I'm always on the lookout for interesting strains to try growing.

Sure, the little one stunk to high heaven of death and rotten mice for a while, then mellowed.

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• StoneOtter
• May 11, 2021

Black Poison Skunk

Then there's the big girl that never had that trait at all. Just musky skunky smelly.

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• StoneOtter
• May 8, 2021

Black Poison Skunk

 

[Jon]

Sure, the little one stunk to high heaven of death and rotten mice for a while, then mellowed.

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• StoneOtter
• May 11, 2021

Black Poison Skunk

Then there's the big girl that never had that trait at all. Just musky skunky smelly.

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• StoneOtter
• May 8, 2021

Black Poison Skunk

Whoa. That big plant in the tent is gorgeous! So is the other one. These are photos, right? How high is the THC in this strain (as much as you can tell or maybe you even have a test kit?)? How did they yield?

 

[Bud Love]

Hey @Jon
Hope your well.
I had 5 GSC autos on not so long ago.. 3rd grow I’d done. everyone of em had different characteristics. Admittedly, I’d done a good job of burning the leaves off most of them.
2 looked the same but they didn’t smell the same, come harvest.
One grew as a miniature,
the best one of the bunch, and the only one that stayed lush through the grow was accidentally topped early on.
I went to NL after that to shorten the genetic lineage.. hoping for uniformity , again though.. 3 gave up nice firm nugs, one of em, which looked the best of em, gave up real fluffy bud.
No help or answer soz, just thought I’d had similar issues ?

 

[StoneOtter]

Whoa. That big plant in the tent is gorgeous! So is the other one. These are photos, right? How high is the THC in this strain (as much as you can tell or maybe you even have a test kit?)? How did they yield?

The big girl is alive today and has a month or more to go. It's in the journal link below with the along with 3 others.

 

[Jon]

Hey @Jon
Hope your well.
I had 5 GSC autos on not so long ago.. 3rd grow I’d done. everyone of em had different characteristics. Admittedly, I’d done a good job of burning the leaves off most of them.
2 looked the same but they didn’t smell the same, come harvest.
One grew as a miniature,
the best one of the bunch, and the only one that stayed lush through the grow was accidentally topped early on.
I went to NL after that to shorten the genetic lineage.. hoping for uniformity , again though.. 3 gave up nice firm nugs, one of em, which looked the best of em, gave up real fluffy bud.
No help or answer soz, just thought I’d had similar issues ?

Interesting. Yeah I am not feeling like it's an "issue" really - just more of an interest. It's not as if we can do anything about it. And who knows which is gonna turn out the best of a strain till it's done? That's kinda part of the fun I think.

 

[Jon]

SCROG update
Grow Day 85
Flower/Stretch Day 11

I'm not sure I need to gum up this post with a whole lot of useless words like I normally do. Heh. This is the state of the scrog today as I first opened up the tent upon the girls waking up at 2 pm. So in these pictures they have been awake for three hours.

I will say this: I see ZERO wrong with this. But my eyes have two grows of experience. If ANYONE sees something that says ANYTHING besides perfect health I would really appreciate it if you would comment and let me know what I need to attend to, and thanks for that very much in advance.

Here's the stats on what these guys have going on:

Temperature: 74-76 (lights on)/66-68 (lights off)
Humidity: Changes as the plants grow but the Gorilla is so solid that it has been staying pretty steady between 43 and 55 percent. I'm hoping to be able to get it lower, all the way to 35-40 percent, for the last three weeks of budding. Another small humidifier would probably do it.
Ph: I just flushed all four of these with a six gallon plain water flush followed by one gallon nutrient feeding. That reset the Ph very effectively and since that time the Ph is holding steady between 6.6 - 6.8. I'm pretty happy with that and the plants appear to be as well. Seems like a solid range for these strains and this soil mixture at this point.
Lights: I just measured the par in the entire footprint all the way around at the level of the canopy. I just gotta say, this light I'm not allowed to mention is PHENOMENAL. The footprint is unreal. If you look at the canopy level picture below, from the left hand outer edge of the bars to the right hand outer edge of the bars, ALL THE WAY ACROSS, is an almost perfectly even 1120 par. At the top of the tallest bud on the right hand side it reads 1140. The evenness of the footprint is INSANE. On the near and far ends of the bars in the picture, where there's not a whole horizontal strip like on the right and left side, is the worst dropoff outside the bar and on the very ends near and far. And guess what? It drops to 970. The WORST on my canopy is 970. That is an insane light. Ok I'm done. So there's your par numbers. The light is currently set at 14" above the tallest bud. It is being run at 100% power and the flower booster is engaged. It is currently and for the rest of the grow drawing a true 680 watts.
Nutes: They are all getting identical mixes. 1 tsp. Big Bloom, 1/4 tsp. Grow Big, 1 tsp. Tiger Bloom, 1 tsp. CalMag plus Iron, 1 tbsp. Blackstrap Organic Molasses. All of that is per gallon. Typically it takes two gallons to produce around 20% runoff with each watering. Every third watering they get plain water now. Just plain water, because I am using the CalMag with the nutes now and don't have to add it to the plain water turn in the cycle. Again, the plants appear to be loving this mixture.

A note on the smell - nothing yet. A note on the stickiness - the Jelly Rancher in particular has very sticky leaves already. The Blueberry Muffin and Pineapple Upside Down Cakes are also kind of sticky so far, but the leaves on the Jelly Rancher are so sticky that they'll stick the tips of your fingers together. This makes me happy. Unexpected.

As you can see in the overhead shot, we are on the cusp of or just starting to see something that approaches looking like a bud on all four strains.

The fact that this canopy is so even tells me that you guys were right and that a proper scrog will grow evenly. I have no idea if this qualifies as a proper scrog, but it sure is growing evenly. And everything remains super healthy (I think).

Here you go. You guys tell me.

Photographs:

- Scrog overhead view
- Scrog canopy level view

 

[Jon]

This one ought to be fun....

Lemon Auto overnight Update
MacGuyver at work

So on Saturday I was talking with @Bill284 about light cycles and he said this:

Read a couple threads Help my plants are flowing. From April
Probably half a dozen in can think of.
18/6 then went outside too early 9-10-11 hrs darkness and they all flipped.
California is visible from space with all the growers lighting up their back yards now.
Rule of thumb 12 hrs of darkness at any point will build up the chemical in her to start the flowering process. Going back and forth could cause a hermie.
But here i go off topic.
So yes 12 is the magic number but I don't screw around with that.
I give my girls whats called twilight.
Shut down all lights but one low watt led.
Never quite dark enough to start producing the flowering chemical.
But dark enough they can relax and catch their breath.
Then lights on no chemical build up to start flower at all ever.
Shut them in for 36 hrs then 12-12 - party time
Bill

I was thinking about that as I brought the autos in tonight for the night. Then I remembered I had these two UFO panel lights. 29 watts each, full spectrum, 1 watt LEDs, light as a feather, and available. So I thought, how can I incorporate Bill's idea and adapt it to my Lemon autos? Cuz they're so damn sweet I want them to be getting more light overnight than zero. In some fashion that matters.

So I hooked up the situation you see in the pictures. I no longer own my own bathtub, and I will sleep tonight with the smell of these plants in my room. LMAO.

Experiment experiment experiment. It's gotta be better than darkness for 10 hours. So hopefully this will work out. It was easy to set up. Bamboo, tape, and spare boxes is all it is. I measured the par they get from this set up and also with the regular lights in the bathroom on and each plant is getting about 360 par. It's so cute. I know from experience that these LEDs will only burn a plant if they are actually pressed against a bulb, so no issues there to worry about.

This was and is fun as hell.

Thanks @Bill284 !!!!!!!

Photographs are all labeled accurately on the banners at the bottom.

 

[Jon]

The big girl is alive today and has a month or more to go. It's in the journal link below with the along with 3 others.

Duh of course it is...sorry. Looking at so many buds lately I am getting confused. Lol.

 

[Diatomacious]

Supposedly letting the plant get real dry at the end has a similar effect as the dark treatment.

Should be an interesting experiment... I like to give them as much water as they can hold right at the end when the bud is fattest and drinking the most.

I am trying to learn how to identify different phenotypes. I am not really sure why it matters other than comparison reasons and curiosity, at least when it comes to autos. It's not as if you can clone them.

Pretty much it for autos... you get what the seed is giving. Photos on the other hand you can be very selective with. Some plants have bigger buds, some have more leafy (loose) buds, some have higher potency... blah blah. You find one with big fat dense buds and kick ass potency and you got a mother. Every seed is a different plant just like every person is different... genetics does seem to play a role in final outcome so trying to get some "one hit wonder" from a hemp plant will not work. Hope this helps.

 

[Jon]

Should be an interesting experiment... I like to give them as much water as they can hold right at the end when the bud is fattest and drinking the most.

Pretty much it for autos... you get what the seed is giving. Photos on the other hand you can be very selective with. Some plants have bigger buds, some have more leafy (loose) buds, some have higher potency... blah blah. You find one with big fat dense buds and kick ass potency and you got a mother. Every seed is a different plant just like every person is different... genetics does seem to play a role in final outcome so trying to get some "one hit wonder" from a hemp plant will not work. Hope this helps.

It does and thank you. And yes, I did that too on my first grow and likely will do so with the scrog plants and the solo Jelly Rancher. But I'm more than happy to experiment with the autos.

 

[StoneOtter]

Duh of course it is...sorry. Looking at so many buds lately I am getting confused. Lol.

Hehe, I'm no different.

 

[Jon]

Cinderella Jack #3
Harvest Special
Results of Experiment
Day 74

Cinderella Jack #3 is harvested and hanging to dry. And the results of our 36 hours of darkness experiment are in.

First, a word on the strain, genetics, and this particular plant. This is the best pot plant I have grown yet in my life. It is DENSE. WAY dense. It STINKS. It is GLISTENING with trichomes and they are thick as hell on this girl. She is SO sticky. Her wet trimmed to dry weight is 6.53 ounces or 183 grams. That should be around 2.5 dry the way the first two of this strain dried relative to their weight loss. Not bad for one plant in 74 days of what is going to be FAR better weed than my first photo grow or any of the autos I've harvested yet. And those are GOOD. This plant is GREAT. Show buds. If there's such a thing as being proud of a plant, I am proud of this girl. And I'm not trying to be an egomaniac dick either, it just really, objectively, from someone who has been smoking weed 42 years - this is top shelf by any of our standards.
The genetics come from Dutch Passion. Enough said, it doesn't get better than that. I will be trying other of the company's strains. And I will no doubt be growing this plant again. Absolutely gorgeous plant, growing her is a breeze, training her is a breeze, and she produces pretty well, especially for her size. I don't know how big or how she would produce if you just let her go. Certainly she'd be taller. Not sure it would yield better than LST-ing as I did. The buds on this plant are all big, dense, softballish buds and every one of them was heavy and legit. There were about 8 branches left on her that budded. I also wonder if I can train her to produce more. A low scrog maybe. Anyway, Cinderella Jack, the world's strongest autoflower, in the books. And she's all that.

Ok so about the 36 hours of darkness experiment. This plant just got harvested upon the end of the 36 hours. I didn't even peek for that time. So, the question is, how, if at all, was she different AFTER the 36 hours than she was BEFORE? Well, to my inexperienced eyes, I see this:

- Definite increase in the size, and the amount, of trichomes
- Definite increase in the density with which the trichomes are packed
- Minimal increase in the number of amber trichomes - they are pretty much as they went into the dark
- Definite increase in the odor of the plant. This was the most obvious change. It stinks so much worse it's way noticeable. I sort of hoped for this but it exceeded my hopes with the odor thing,
- Definite increase in the stickiness of the plant
- I *think* the buds feel a bit wetter to the light hold now than they did when they went in. Not sure. But if true, I wonder why that would be? Might just have been feeling them under the cover leaf as I trimmed them through a thin rubber glove. Maybe not relevant, not sure.
- No wilting, or anything that I would perceive as a negative to the plant. She almost seems to wanna go back outside. Of course I wouldn't do that, but lol.

So my conclusion is that the 36 hours of darkness DEFINITELY works and is definitely a big time positive. I will now do this for all my grows. This was MORE than enough proof for me, even only trying it once on one plant. The difference is too noticeable for me to be inventing it for myself.

It is not lost on me that this was far from a proper, controlled experiment, so take all this for what it's worth guys. I just wanted to get an idea, and I got one. Be curious to hear of anyone else's experience with this.

You guys who are interested in this little experiment can judge for yourself. I have included three trichome pictures from AFTER the 36 hours. If you like you can flip back two days and compare the last trichome shots I posted of this plant to the trichome shots from tonight. That's what I did, and I see a significant difference. I checked all the buds with the microscope, and all of them look just like these pictures. The difference was the whole plant, not just a couple buds. You guys tell me if it looks like the increase in trichs and such that I believe I'm seeing or not. You will be more objective than me. I'd love to know if my eyes work or if they exaggerate things for me, if you get my drift.

So there you go. Enjoy the pics.

Photographs:

- Trichome shot 1
- Trichome shot 2
- Trichome shot 3
- Wet weight trimmed to hang and dry - 183 grams, ie, 6.53 ounces wet
- Bud example flash picture trimmed to dry
- Bud example flash picture trimmed to dry
- Bud example no flash picture trimmed to dry

HAPPY FRIDAY NIGHT. Time for a beer.

 

[StoneOtter]

Nice harvest Jon!

 

[Jon]

Nice harvest Jon!

Thanks, not bad for one plant on my first try at autos. I said all along that if I get ONE show plant out of nine when I never grew them OR used the quantum board before I'd be happy. And I am. I wasn't looking for magazine picture buds (well, I always am, lol, but I didn't expect that at all), just a successful grow on autos for my first shot. I already figured out enough about them that next grow I'll get REAL yield. I'm not a moron. 2 1/2 ounces from one plant is nothing to brag about, I know that. I wasn't bragging, just expressing my happiness with this one plant. Lol.

 

[Jon]

So you guys ready to start talking about your NEXT grows yet? I'm in the early planning stages of mine and I'd love to get some input from y'all if you have any, please. Here's my current seed bank.

Feminized Photoperiod Seeds

5 Ghost Train Haze (weedseedexpress)
4 Jelly Rancher (Humboldt Seed Company)
3 Hulkberry (Royal Queen Seeds)
3 Raspberry Parfait (Humboldt Seed Company)
2 Purple Crunch (Greenpoint Seeds)
2 Blueberry
1 Blueberry Muffin (Humboldt Seed Company)
1 Pineapple Upside Down Cake (Humboldt Seed Company)
2 Chunky Diesel (bag seeds from my PA grower buddy)

Feminized Autoflower Seeds

6 Sour Apple (Humboldt Seed Company)
2 Chunkadelic (Humboldt Seed Company)

Trying to decide what to grow. My seedbank needs some work, but I have some options. The autos are obvious since there's only 8 seeds. I'll just grow all of them and be done with the autos for a while. I may even try one outdoors and just feed it and let it go in a five gallon pot and see what happens. If I did that it would provide valuable input on growing the other plants of that strain.

The photos I'm considering the strongest are the Ghost Train Haze, the Hulkberry, and the Raspberry Parfait. There are enough of each of them to fill my 5x5 in a scrog as I am doing now. Now that I'm doing it once I can see that filling a screen with even ONE plant would not be terribly difficult. I know I can do it. So three to five is plenty of plants if I want to grow out ONE strain at a time. I think for the next grow I DO want to stick to one strain. It was a challenge this grow and still is growing three strains in a scrog in one tent, and it's a lot of fun, but it's also WAY more difficult and requires you to pay WAY more close attention, imho. It's kind of a pain in the ass to be honest. One strain would be a lot easier I believe.

This is a no brainer, right? I'm growing the Ghost Train Haze? Yeah, that's what I thought you guys would say. Ha! It's a legendary strain, it's supposed to have the potential to reach 30+% THC, it's considered a moderate difficulty plant to grow, not beginner easy but not expert level only, which I feel suits my skill set fairly well at this point, and I have five of the seeds. That's enough to grow all five plants and select the best three to grow in the scrog or something like that. Maybe I grow the best three that way and grow the other two in the other tent and do five plants divided between two tents. That would give me the chance to compare lighting at least. DUH. As if my $300 quantum board and blurples are even worth comparing to the glory of the new light...lol....never mind on that. But three plants in a scrog and just two by themselves in the other tent, scrog or just LST with topping, and I think I might be able to pull a real serious yield that way. I mean, all the plants would get so much space, and the experience of growing this Jelly Rancher solo in the tent has shown me how much more the plants grow when they have unlimited space and don't need to be pruned one iota. I won't take a leaf off the Jelly Rancher the rest of the grow unless it's blocking a bud site. The plant gets all the light to every single portion of the plant and there's nothing to compete. Why would I have to take any leaves? I want to see if there's a difference in yields between a plant that gets picked at and defoliated versus a plant that buds out with all the leaves intact and minimal picking.

Anyway, you guys have any thoughts? Or has anyone grown any of these strains? Or hell, anyone wanna trade some seeds? Are we allowed to do that? If not, moderators, I apologize and won't toss that out again.

Thanks guys!