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Thanks Emilya! I was kind of hoping you would say something along those lines. Muchas Gracias.All of it sounds like great advice! You are lucky to have a Yoda with such good eyes!
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Thanks Emilya! I was kind of hoping you would say something along those lines. Muchas Gracias.All of it sounds like great advice! You are lucky to have a Yoda with such good eyes!
56 ey? You old goat you.Phototown Update
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Flower/Stretch Day 9
Last night I had a long conversation with my Yoda from Oregon, and I took him on an extensive FaceTime tour of the scrog and the autos. Funny. Dude doesn't give a damn about my autos and thinks they're for children. Lol. Professional grower snobs. Ha. However, he has keen interest in my scrog. I am the one who talked him into growing this same strain of Pineapple Upside Down Cake in one of his greenhouses this grow for him, and he has a ton of very large ones. He wanted to see so I took him on the tour, and then he said wait, zoom in on a couple of those leaves on the Blueberry Muffin. I did so. Then he told me to pick one and show it to him in the normal light. I did that. Then he had me show him leaves from all four plants so he could see all four to compare.
After all that extensive tour, dude said, you got a lot of work to do. Tonight.
WHAT????
It took him all of five seconds to diagnose that my EC is off just a touch on the Blueberry Muffin and I needed to correct it immediately since I am nine days into budding. I looked at the same leaves he looked at. The same leaves you guys see in the picture. I STILL can't see anything wrong with it, unless I look WAY close. I have no idea how the dude saw this, but the reality is that some of the lower leaves on the Blueberry Muffin that you can't see in the picture are getting the tiniest amount of a golden/rusty looking sort of sheen. Just a few, and it's literally so barely noticeable it's not worth posting. But he said FOR SURE I am in the very infant stage with the Blueberry Muffin of starting to get lockout. He says I have too much salt built up in the soil and it's JUST starting to show. He said to correct it immediately I needed to flush that plant with plain water first, at least five gallons through her. So I did that. I flushed her last night until the water was basically the same coming out as it was going in. Clear. Then he said to wait til she's all done shedding the runoff, and then follow it up with a one gallon nutrient feeding, wherever I was with nutes. And he said to add CalMag. So I did that.
Then dude says I gotta clean out under the canopy. I said isn't it too soon for that? He said yes, it's too soon for you to strip them of all the leaves and stuff like you're going to in a few weeks. But he said to go underneath, take anything that was dead, dying, or not getting any light, and then to focus on taking any BRANCHES that were thin, or flarfy, or were no way going to make it up to the screen. He said these are robbing energy from the buds and to do that immediately, so that as they start to form buds I don't have to hurt the plant by cutting that stuff off after buds start forming and cost myself a day or two of budding while the plant recovers. He says to remove that under the canopy growth in stages over a couple weeks, NOT all at once, so that you don't give the plants a gigantic shock all at once and instead it's spread out and minimized. So I did that. You can see (sort of, I tried) the removal of those branches a little bit in the picture, and my PARTIAL under canopy defol.
Then he says, put your damn dehumidifier UNDER the canopy, not above it. I said why, don't I want to lessen the humidity in the climate zone ABOVE the canopy? He said yes, but you do that by removing it from underneath. That's where your humidity starts, with the wet pots and soil in addition to the plants respiration. He also said that the exhaust fan is drawing the air to the top of the tent and that since I'm running AC into the bottom, I want to let the less humid air underneath (assuming the dehumidifier is doing it's job) get pulled UP and THROUGH the canopy and buds. So I put the dehumidifier underneath in the middle of the plants as directed.
Then he says to install my extra stretchy screen that hooks to the tent poles, about 8" above the first screen. I said why do I need it? He said for support. BECAUSE, he said, YOU ARE NOT GOING TO TUCK ANYMORE AFTER THE MORNING TUCK. I said why not, I thought I tucked til the screen was filled or actual buds form, whichever comes first. He said dude, the screen is fricking filled. Don't be a cola junkie trying to get EVERY HOLE FILLED, you already filled nearly all of them and there's undergrowth ready to fill a lot of the remaining holes. He says now I should LET THE PLANTS GROW UP. The reason is to get a little verticality to the bud sites before they start to become actual buds. He said it will grow evenly as I have an even screen. He says letting it go now will increase my yield cuz the buds will have more to work with above the canopy. So, he said install the screen and when they get to it I'll have support, and I'll also have a way to attend to any rogue buds that decide they want to outpace and outgrow (vertically) all their friends, and I can tuck those using the second screen if necessary to maintain the evenness of the canopy as a whole. So that takes two seconds and I'll do that in a day or two when the buds get close to six or eight inches above the first screen.
So that was a lot of work out of nowhere when I had no idea I had all this stuff to do.
I trust this guy like I trust @Emilya, and if he told me I needed to do all those things, I take it to the bank and do them. He saved my first grow three times with diagnoses. NEVER led me astray. And he has yet to be wrong about a diagnosis or a solution to it. So since I laud my friend (who I wish I could Identify so BAD!! Lol!) with frequency and take his advice always, you guys tell me. This is my first scrog. Was my friend on point about the things he told me to get done? Do you guys have any input on the above? If so I'd love to hear it. He's Yoda, not God. And there's lots of Yodas here too. So I'm very curious if anyone has any input on the veracity of what he had me do and the whys of it?
Anyway, there it is. This is my scrog.
Here's the state of it after the final tucking session from above and below. Sorry about the below picture, it's a bit rough. Just trying to show what a partial stripping under the canopy looks like versus a total stripping.
Thanks guys. Happy Tuesday. If anyone has some absolutely amazing, killer, frosty buds they want me to try for them, tomorrow is my birthday. I'll be 56. Whoo Hoo. Feel free to ask me for my address off the public feed and send me some.
Peace to you to my friend, and thank you.56 ey? You old goat you.
Garden looks feckin ace mate , what a job.
That was a hell of a post Jon, as ever your right on top of it all.
Peace to ya
Sounds like he nailed it... make that saved your grow 4 timesWas my friend on point about the things he told me to get done?
Sounds like he nailed it... make that saved your grow 4 times
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks, I needed that belly laugh you sarcastic son of a bitch. And thanks for the feedback.
You know, YOU probably could have mentioned a couple of those to me......Sounds like he nailed it... make that saved your grow 4 times
I now have them along the very side of the house. You can't see them at all, they are completely blocked from anyone's eyes. You're right. I'm not dumb, just a bit cavalier at times. Lol. But I really don't want the hassle, and of course it's always true better safe than sorry. Thanks for not wanting me to get arrested, lol. They come inside the garage at night too now, so no fear of theft overnight. Only thing I can't do is mask the smell, and these plants STINK. So does the whole area in front of our house. You can smell them from about 50 feet away. Maybe not enough to find them, but there's definitely that odor....Lol. Oh well. It's an improvement over the normal neighborhood smells of complacency and trumpism.Coming from a few encounters with the fuzz regarding “funny flowers”, i wouldn't count on them going easy because of the wheelchair. At least you have em hidden now
Not trying to nag, just coming from a genuine place of concern. We moved down here a handful of years ago but due to unnamed circumstances we havent had much opportunity to meet people and make new friends. You all on here are my friends these days. And i’d hate to see something happen to ya man
I now have them along the very side of the house. You can't see them at all, they are completely blocked from anyone's eyes. You're right. I'm not dumb, just a bit cavalier at times. Lol. But I really don't want the hassle, and of course it's always true better safe than sorry. Thanks for not wanting me to get arrested, lol. They come inside the garage at night too now, so no fear of theft overnight. Only thing I can't do is mask the smell, and these plants STINK. So does the whole area in front of our house. You can smell them from about 50 feet away. Maybe not enough to find them, but there's definitely that odor....Lol. Oh well. It's an improvement over the normal neighborhood smells of complacency and trumpism.
I'm glad my stupid disregard for my own fate has proven useful to you in some way.Thank you @Jon, I think you have stopped me from making a mistake by putting my mother plants out in the backyard. This discussion has convinced me that even though it is legal to grow here in my house, it might not be quite as cut and dried in the backyard, even behind a privacy fence. I just turned out the lights in the mother room this evening and will let the 4 plants in there go back to the compost pile... it is probably for the best.
It's hard to tell from a picture sometimes. Yoda got all the close ups.You know, YOU probably could have mentioned a couple of those to me......
LOL!!!!
Just trimming some up and you got me thinking about how some buds have a lot more leaf than others so they end up being a nightmare to trim. Something to think about before your next seed order considering past experience you've had.I say going cuz it takes fricking FOREVER. My first grow it was a labor of love and I was all excited. Now it's just work.
I hear you on that. I don't know man, I kinda feel like as much of a pain in the ass as it is, if I start picking seeds based on "easy" I'm kind of pussying out. Lol. I'm more about a challenge and experimenting.Just trimming some up and you got me thinking about how some buds have a lot more leaf than others so they end up being a nightmare to trim. Something to think about before your next seed order considering past experience you've had.
Thanks Michael! Yeah, it's all good with them now. They're stealthy. Lol. I got a good post on them I'm about to put up. The real sun definitely agrees with them. I'll expound a little on that thought in the post.Happy Birthday @Jon
If we had any extra, I'd happily send some your way. We're sadly down to only a few grams left. Glad you got those ladies into a safer place in the yard. Not gonna lie, started getting a little more nervous when i didn't see any morning posts from you yesterday lol.
Take care man and enjoy the day!