Jon's First Outdoor Grow: Sugar Breath Photoperiod & Strawberry Banana Autoflower

Never even smoked weed with the flavor profile this strain has. Chocolate and coffee flavors? Yeah, that sounds interesting. I'm kind of hoping she becomes my smokable cup of coffee in the morning - after all it is a sativa, and it's about the purest sativa you can get from seed - 95/5. Psyched! I hope they turn out as nice as the picture DNA provides in the sales shot I included, that's sweet looking buds. But mine never end up looking the same as the pictures, do yours?
 
Never even smoked weed with the flavor profile this strain has. Chocolate and coffee flavors? Yeah, that sounds interesting. I'm kind of hoping she becomes my smokable cup of coffee in the morning - after all it is a sativa, and it's about the purest sativa you can get from seed - 95/5. Psyched! I hope they turn out as nice as the picture DNA provides in the sales shot I included, that's sweet looking buds. But mine never end up looking the same as the pictures, do yours?
Yes sometimes and tours will too!
 
Yes sometimes and tours will too!
Nice. Never seen Black Poison Skunk. Dank I bet. Looks evil. Hey does that strain's just bud in that kind of form? It looks as if maybe you back cut the bud top on that bud or no?
 
THE MAIL CAME!!!!!!!

I don't know how many of you guys are baseball fans, but right now I'm feeling an awful lot like Lou Gherig felt in his retirement speech at Yankee Stadium.
THANK YOU SO MUCH TO OUR SPONSOR, @GeoFlora Nutrients. You guys really outdid yourselves, and I am a kid in a candy store. Damn. Five top of the line 7-gallon geopots too? YAY. Didn't see that one coming!! We will use two of them in this grow on the photos!!! I didn't expect this for days!!!

Thanks so much as well to the person who made this possible, my buddy @Rexer. You are the MAN.

Terpinator too...heh.


Damn.


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Ooh You got some Terpinator too? And the fabric pots :thumb::love:That's awesome, I'm glad the kind folks @GeoFlora Nutrients were able to hook you up! Till it can come to Canada, I shall live vicariously through you Jon!
 
Ooh You got some Terpinator too? And the fabric pots :thumb::love:That's awesome, I'm glad the kind folks @GeoFlora Nutrients were able to hook you up! Till it can come to Canada, I shall live vicariously through you Jon!
Where in Canada are you man? I have five friends in Canada in the following places: 2 in Quebec, 2 in whatever province the Copps Colesium is located in (I forget), and 1 in Toronto. I visit them from time to time, and would love to meet you next time I'm in town. (in town...lol) Maybe you're near one of those places? Dude you totally hooked me up and I did the math - this is a LOT of free stuff! Too bad the Canadian customs are so hairy and you have your deal making it impossible, cuz I have a ton of things I want to send you to say thanks. Some of which might possibly maybe perhaps get you high. ;) Lol. Of course neither of us would ever even approach breaking any law in the slightest way like that, so you'll have to just accept my sincere thanks and when I see you, I assure you I will bring something to the party.
 
Where in Canada are you man? I have five friends in Canada in the following places: 2 in Quebec, 2 in whatever province the Copps Colesium is located in (I forget), and 1 in Toronto. I visit them from time to time, and would love to meet you next time I'm in town. (in town...lol) Maybe you're near one of those places? Dude you totally hooked me up and I did the math - this is a LOT of free stuff! Too bad the Canadian customs are so hairy and you have your deal making it impossible, cuz I have a ton of things I want to send you to say thanks. Some of which might possibly maybe perhaps get you high. ;) Lol. Of course neither of us would ever even approach breaking any law in the slightest way like that, so you'll have to just accept my sincere thanks and when I see you, I assure you I will bring something to the party.
Well dude next time your north bound lemme know. Maybe we can drag @Bill284 and KCCO 77 as part of that meet up. I'm in cottage country, surrounded by farmers and seasonal residents. If your into fishing, there's a fairly largeake nearby...not too far from Bill, two hr drive, which is nothing. Bring yourself, no need for any repayment my friend, I'm glad it's all going to good use:green_heart:

I'd be roughly a 4hr drive from Toronto if that helps more. Any more is more of a PM chat ;)
 
Well dude next time your north bound lemme know. Maybe we can drag @Bill284 and @KCCO 77 as part of that meet up. I'm in cottage country, surrounded by farmers and seasonal residents. If your into fishing, there's a fairly largeake nearby...not too far from Bill, two hr drive, which is nothing. Bring yourself, no need for any repayment my friend, I'm glad it's all going to good use:green_heart:

I'd be roughly a 4hr drive from Toronto if that helps more. Any more is more of a PM chat ;)
Lmao. Sorry, I put you on the spot a little, didn't mean to. Ha. Ok I get it. And yeah, I'm pretty sure if we all got together it would be the most interesting party we ever attended. Bit of a sausage fest though.... :laughtwo: :laughtwo: :laughtwo: :laughtwo: Thanks again.
 
This one was too good, I can't resist sharing it with you guys. I'm still laughing my arse off.

@Mars Hydro, you guys will appreciate this one. Anyone want to know how bright the FC-E6500 is?

I'm out walking my puppy and a dude walks by and stops and introduces himself. He tells me he lives across the water from me, and his living room faces my back lennai. Where the big rig with the Mars Hydro light lives. Which stays on at 100% until 2 am each night. The guy asks me if there's any way I could either turn the light off earlier in the evening, or somehow make it so the light doesn't shine across the water? He says it's lighting up his entire living room!!!

This guy's living room is approximately 800 yards away from the light, and all the way diagonally across the pond from my house.

Now THAT is a bright light!!!!

Of course I said no problem and fixed it. We will now be dropping screens on two sides of the rig once the sun goes down. Lol. Problem solved. Dude thanked me and said good luck with a wink. The wink is when my jaw dropped.

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
 
Too awesome! :rofl: :rofl:
The neighbors I was talking about stopped by yesterday. They wanted to thank me for taking care of the light so quickly and effectively. They dropped off a NY coffee cake for me, and a bag of puppy treats for Molly! They also gave me a note with their names and phone number and said if I ever needed any dogsitting they love dogs and would love to take care of Molly if I needed their help. This is what you call cool-ass neighbors.
 
Switching Gears Once Again
Seed Sprouting Issues and Forced Changes


Boy, sometimes when a streak ends, a streak ENDS. I was 31 for 31 on both popping seeds and sprouting seeds. Up until this grow I never once failed in those regards. I was starting to think I was immune to bum seeds. I am not. So we already had to switch out the Sugar Breath which wouldn't pop for me, and now, although her stand in, the Chocolope, popped no problem, in 8 days it never sprouted. I am certain I planted it properly and all that good stuff. Just decided she didn't want to play. So the Chocolope is out too. Some of you would try and wait it out a little longer. I don't. If you aren't up in a week you're out. Just policy around here.

This is when your seed addiction comes in handy. I have PLENTY of good photo seeds I could replace the Chocolope with. So I did. I am going to take another shot at the strain that got me inspired to try my scrog last time: I give you......

Pineapple Upside Down Cake
Humboldt Seed Company
Pineapple Upside Down Cake BX3 x Pineapple Train Wreck x Cookie Monster
Sativa leaning hybrid, 60 sativa/40 indica
Flower Cycle: 45 Days
Smell: Pineapple and Creamy Vanilla Frosting
Flavors: Slightly tangy with a Creme Brulee finish
Appearance: Frosty Lime Green with Golden Calix Tips
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I took a shot at her in the scrog and that grow progressed far enough before it went hermie for me to see exactly how this strain grows and how the buds turn out. VERY dense buds, very sativa like growth and appearance to them, and absolutely gorgeous colas with a smell that's almost impossible to describe, but really amazing. The smell HSC describes as creamy vanilla frosting is the one that throws off my perception. It's super unique. It's also a very big yielder. When I busted down the hermie scrog last grow the biggest yielder by far was the PUC of the three strains. And perhaps best of all, it's the fastest finisher by far of the plants in this grow and even starting about ten days behind the others will catch up on the finish and maybe be first photo harvested, we'll see. Long way off. Lol.

WARNING: Strongly Held and Potentially Unpopular Opinion About to be Expressed
There are a contingency of folks out there who don't use HSC or other certain breeders, or grow certain strains, because they believe that the genetics from the company or that particular strain have a tendency to "go hermie" more often than other breeders or strains. I read two grow journal reviews last night on this strain in particular, and both growers said they wouldn't grow it again because it "went hermie" on them. They believe it's a genetics issue. I hear this over and over again in grow journals and online, not just about HSC genetics, but about many strains and seeds. WELL IT'S ALL COMPLETE BULLSHIT. (I warned you) Before I even say it, you can try and argue all day that hermie seeds are real, are a thing, and some seeds/strains are more "prone" to going hermie than others, as are the genetics in general from some companies, even highly respected, as good as it gets companies like HSC. This is simply not true. Yes, there are some seeds that may be more prone to reacting negatively to stress, and that stress reaction may include self-pollinating as a self-defense mechanism (this is what "going hermie" is when no pollen has been introduced to your grow, otherwise it's simply the plant going male as it's supposed to when pollinated). But that is not a result of "bad" genetics. It's a result of UNREFINED genetics. New hybrids in particular are potential candidates for this, as all these seed companies now want to rush their new hybrids to market LONG before they have had time to refine and tune the genetics. That takes years. Not two grows and let's sell these seeds. If you ever smoked Sour Diesel x Chem Dog, this hybrid was invented and developed by my Yoda from Oregon. It's part of his claim to fame. It took him 12 years of growing it, selecting phenos, growing it again, refining, etc...before he was willing to grow a whole greenhouse of it and sell it. Now it's as stable and consistent a strain as there is out there. You simply don't get four or five different phenos from a refined strain that's long term genetically stable - that's kind of the point of stabilizing the genetics in the first place: CONSISTENCY. And the ones that do have a few phenos are well-known and specific phenos they can describe to you before you grow it, not whatever happens happens. It's a long process no matter who is involved, as he had the backing of the top pot geneticists in Oregon. At the end of the day this is a genetics stability issue. The problem is not the genetics, it's the greed of the seed companies. Generally speaking, a plant will not just "go hermie" if you don't stress it. If it's grown in a stable environment without any major issues with light or nutes or whatever, the odds are very high that it will NOT go hermie. No matter what you may read. I'll bet anyone here that this Pineapple Upside Down Cake will not go hermie. And the real deal is actually simpler than that to say:

IF A PLANT WENT HERMIE ON YOU IT WAS PROBABLY YOUR FAULT, NOT THE GENETICS.

Ok, got that off my chest. Anyway, all seven plants are now out of the ground for this grow, so I believe it's safe to finally print the list of the grow. Here is the final tally:

4 Strawberry Banana Auto
1 Gelato Auto
1 Raspberry Parfait Photo
1 Pineapple Upside Down Cake Photo
1 Mystery Seed Photo I Will Reveal and Add to the Grow if it Pops and Sprouts - Currently Soaking - When I prepped the two seven gallon pots yesterday for these photos I discovered I had enough soil left for one more. Lol.

The girls will make their first live appearance in the journal here on FRIDAY!!!
Why that day? Because that's the day we flip the Gorilla tent with the three photos from my other journal to flower, ie 12/12. This is where the girls currently reside. Can't very well have these girls vegging at 12/12. So they will go to the auto rig outside under the blurples - about 550 actual watts worth of them. At least the five autos will go there, the photos will live their entire lives (until flower) next door under the @Mars Hydro FC-E6500, on a 20/4 light cycle. I normally veg on 18/6 but for two reasons we are going 20/4 with the photos this time:
1. The difference between 20/4 and the natural light cycle, about 13/11, will be more dramatic a change than if I used 18/6 and guarantee the plant will begin to flower when she leaves the rig at the flip and finishes entirely outside.
2. The autos right next door will be on 20/4, so by vegging the photos on 20/4 with the identical hours of lights on/off, I don't have to worry about light from one rig bleeding into another.
Very excited to see what this light will do start to finish in veg. Perfect test for it.

So there you go guys. Can't wait to post some pictures of the actual grow, like, plants! I'm sure you guys have had enough of my writing. I need some veg porn bad, it's kind of another addiction. Not sure I can sell y'all on this, but in reality I enjoy taking pictures and editing them a lot more than I do the verbiage part. Lol.

Me and the babies will see you guys here tomorrow.
 
THE GROW HAS NOW BECOME OFFICIAL!!!!!
The Girls Make Their Grand Entrance
RP - Day 12/PUC - Day 1/All Autos - Day 12


Ladies and Gentlemen, may I present for your viewing pleasure, the girls who will be starring in the show.....they have been eagerly awaiting their grand entrance in the Gorilla tent for a bit and are very pleased to be coming to you live today on Friday, September 24. Say hello, girls!!

Please say hello to the 4 Strawberry Banana sisters, the alpha dog Gelato, the perky Raspberry Parfait, and the rookie, Pineapple Upside Down Cake!

Basically everyone you see is on Day 12 except the Pineapple Upside Down Cake who is on Day 1. She made it out of the ground just in time for the show.

The rig with the Strawberry Bananas and the Gelato is the auto rig.
Those five plants will live their entire lives in that space, under the 550+ watts of the blurples, and on a 20/4 light cycle. The autos are all going to be transplanted into five gallon pots of Sohum living soil. This part of the grow will be organic in that regard. The auto babies are at approximately 400 par right now. I will begin training on all the autos soon enough. We are going with the minimally invasive method of auto training with these girls. I will top them once only, and not using Uncle Ben's method, but at the fourth node, and other than that all the training will be bending and tying branches, exactly the same type of training I have going on the Sour Apple Experimental Spent Soil Grow. There's a training check in picture of her in that journal today if you wish to see a reference for what I call minimally invasive training.

The rig with the Raspberry Parfait and the Pineapple Upside Down Cake is the @Mars Hydro rig as it will be referred to as from here on. At their current level in relation to the light, the babies are getting around 400 par from the light and whatever else they get from the sun. I am to a certain extent using my experience to gauge the light level more so than my par meter, as I am not so sure the app is accurate when it's getting a ton of natural sunlight and LED at the same time. Glad I've learned a thing or two about lights.

Once the two autos from the other grow you see behind the RP and PUC finish up and get out of the space, these two photoperiod plants will have the entire 5x5 space and light to themselves. Then we'll see how well this light revs them up in veg. With no training and unfettered straight growth for a good while to start, they should start to zoom rapidly upwards and spread out very quickly. I have ten feet of height to play with in that rig, so the plan is basically to let them get really really big. Taller than I am sitting in my chair, which is about four feet. I plan to toss them outside and send them to bud when they are five feet tall or so, anticipating around 10 foot tall plants at the finish. Heh.

IT'S ON LIKE DONKEY KONG!!

So, without further ado, may I present:

- Photoperiod girls vegging in the Mars Hydro Rig
- Closeup Raspberry Parfait Day 12
- Closeup Pineapple Upside Down Cake Day 1
- Autoflower girls vegging in the Auto Rig
- Closeup Strawberry Bananas 1-4, Day 12

- Closeup Gelato Day 12

This will be a blast. Thanks for joining me guys. It's a pleasure to bring you this grow involving two of our vaunted sponsors, @Mars Hydro and the official sponsor of the grow, @GeoFlora Nutrients. Thanks very much to the gang from both companies. Hi guys!! Both will be featured significantly over the course of the journal.

This is our first fully organic grow. Sohum living soil for the autos, Geoflora organic nutrients for the photos. GOD, am I happy to have a break from mixing nutes for an entire grow. Lol.

Wish me luck!


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Raspberry Parfait photo Day 12.jpg


Pineapple Upside Down Cake photo Day 1.jpg


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Strawberry Banana 1 through 4 Day 12.jpg


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Hiya @Emilya, this post is for you.

I know you're in trim jail and have your hands full, but having spent a few days of my life in actual jail, I'm not going to feel too much pity for you - trim jail is pretty sweet compared to the real deal. Lmao. Betcha there's a few of us here who "get" that more than others.... :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: Hope you and your gang are having fun. There are some stoned people in that room for sure... So when you have time, I was wondering if I could ask you a few questions regarding some very basic information that I could look up, but is much easier to process coming from you. It's also nice to know that the person teaching you has actually grown weed effectively, and is not teaching you based solely on processing data. I wouldn't take my car to a mechanic who didn't fix his own. Also, I am posting these questions in this journal because it's relevant information to the @GeoFlora Nutrients I'll be using on the photos in the grow. Lastly, I think this really basic info might be helpful to many of us attempting to transition from soil to organic soil, so just in case there's any newbies like me who check in here it would probably be really helpful. And, I'm not too embarrassed to publicly humiliate myself by asking you dumb questions!!

So thanks in advance, and here we go:

1. What exactly IS a microbe? What do they eat? What do they poop?
2. By what process do microbes turn soil and water into useful nutrients for the plant? How do they work?
3. If microbes are so great, why do I have Soil Activator and Dynomoco as suggested additives to prep the soil with? Aren't I just adding more microbes to a pot full of them once I begin the GeoFlora? (gotta remember to capitalize that damn F, lol)
4. When is the best time to mix these additives into the soil? The day of transplant? Or is there some advantage to mixing them into the soil a few days early before transplant? And am I mixing these into the entire pot or just into the top half of the soil?
5. Would additives such as these work as a top dressing for plants in Sohum as they go into budding to act as a sort of "microbe replenisher?"
6. It seems it's impossible to overfeed with GeoFlora or anything that's just microbes. Is this true? If so, why?
7. It does seem possible to UNDERfeed. Is this also true? If so, do you read and listen to the plants to find the sweet spot while starting with the suggested feeding schedule and adjusting as you observe?

You may have covered some of this in your journal, so sorry if I'm asking for repeat info. That'll do for now. And thanks again Emilya, you know who you are to me. :green_heart:
 
Off Topic Photographic Post
Top Notch PA Porn!!


Hi guys. It's Sunday, a day of rest, and there are no posts for this thread today. So I thought I'd share a lovely picture my friend from Pennsylvania just sent me to get me psyched for the Eagles/Cowgirls on Monday Night Football.

This is my buddy's backyard grow. He does one plant behind his tomatoes, against the fence, each season. Last year he had one monster about 15 feet tall, which was easily spied above the fence line and predictably got stolen. This year he has installed a camera monitoring system, and an alarm on the door into the fenced-in backyard. He also topped and trained this plant to finish below the height of the fence. Can't say he didn't respond to getting his huge baby stolen last year. If you ever wanted to hear a furious human being, that was an epic rant the day he discovered it was gone. Then he cried. I didn't get it at the time. Now I do.

You are looking at his Pennsylvania Outdoor White Widow, growing in the native Pennsylvania soil with no pot, raised from seed. It has been fed with organic nutes, he couldn't remember which kind (damn stoner....lol) This is one plant. At first glance I thought it was three. He expects it to go another five weeks.

This is my hometown friend who is also the best PA grower I personally know, and the dude who is my assistant for setup and harvest when I get setup back in PA in the spring. He knows a thing or two. I have been trying to get him to join the forum.

Please, enjoy a little impressive Sunday porn from PA Dave!

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Hiya @Emilya, this post is for you.

I know you're in trim jail and have your hands full, but having spent a few days of my life in actual jail, I'm not going to feel too much pity for you - trim jail is pretty sweet compared to the real deal. Lmao. Betcha there's a few of us here who "get" that more than others.... :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: Hope you and your gang are having fun. There are some stoned people in that room for sure... So when you have time, I was wondering if I could ask you a few questions regarding some very basic information that I could look up, but is much easier to process coming from you. It's also nice to know that the person teaching you has actually grown weed effectively, and is not teaching you based solely on processing data. I wouldn't take my car to a mechanic who didn't fix his own. Also, I am posting these questions in this journal because it's relevant information to the @GeoFlora Nutrients I'll be using on the photos in the grow. Lastly, I think this really basic info might be helpful to many of us attempting to transition from soil to organic soil, so just in case there's any newbies like me who check in here it would probably be really helpful. And, I'm not too embarrassed to publicly humiliate myself by asking you dumb questions!!

So thanks in advance, and here we go:

1. What exactly IS a microbe? What do they eat? What do they poop?
2. By what process do microbes turn soil and water into useful nutrients for the plant? How do they work?
3. If microbes are so great, why do I have Soil Activator and Dynomoco as suggested additives to prep the soil with? Aren't I just adding more microbes to a pot full of them once I begin the GeoFlora? (gotta remember to capitalize that damn F, lol)
4. When is the best time to mix these additives into the soil? The day of transplant? Or is there some advantage to mixing them into the soil a few days early before transplant? And am I mixing these into the entire pot or just into the top half of the soil?
5. Would additives such as these work as a top dressing for plants in Sohum as they go into budding to act as a sort of "microbe replenisher?"
6. It seems it's impossible to overfeed with GeoFlora or anything that's just microbes. Is this true? If so, why?
7. It does seem possible to UNDERfeed. Is this also true? If so, do you read and listen to the plants to find the sweet spot while starting with the suggested feeding schedule and adjusting as you observe?

You may have covered some of this in your journal, so sorry if I'm asking for repeat info. That'll do for now. And thanks again Emilya, you know who you are to me. :green_heart:
Some right dandy questions... lets see how well I can do.
A microbe is a one celled organism or clusters of organisms that come in many species and types. Out of the 5 types of microbes, we are mostly interested in the Archaea and Fungi groups. Within these groups are millions of sub species and they come in a variety of body types such as protozoans, amoebas and paramecium. They basically work together to break down organics in your soil and will actually eat raw nutrients, excreting the nutrient in a more usable form or breaking it down out of the organics. Some microbes are in a symbiotic relationship with the plants and not only will excrete the nutrients that the plant needs, but the plant also excretes in return, some additional nutrient needed for the microbe to thrive.
I do not know the specific processes the microbes use to turn the nutrients into a more usable form. I studied business and marketing instead of biological sciences.
Dynomyco is freeze dried fungi. The fungal network takes time and large areas to work with. That takes time and it is best to start as early as you can. Soil activator is most likely another set of highly specialized microbes helping to aid in the composting initial prep of the soil... these are not the same microbes that feed your plant, these are the soil builders.
It seems the geoflora is best mixed with the soil of your first cup prior to the first top feeding 2 weeks later. I am still not clear as to the best way to do this. Dynomyco needs to be in contact with the roots, so generally it is added to the bottom and sides of the hole made to transplant into for best effect.
Yes, in sohum or any other supersoil arrangement, Geoflora would act as not only a supplement but also a primary source of feed, and a microbe inoculation. I have supersoil in my containers, but am not counting on it at all for this grow. It is there to enhance the next grow, to be mixed with the soil as I break up these rootballs for the next grow.
I am sure that if you had a mind to, you could overfeed with Geoflora. It is half raw feed after all, along with the microbes, and some of that feed is immediately available. I am sure that as with most things, there is at some point too much of a good thing. Always remember that with any feed, there is a water soluble component that oftentimes is the readily available component, and it could be overdone in the right circumstances.
There are several ways to underfeed an organic grow. First, the elements needed can be lacking... you can't feed if there is nothing there. But also, the microbes can be damaged or missing and even though the raw nutrient is sitting there in the soil ready to be processed, the plants can still starve. As always, watch your plants for signs in the leaves that something isnt right.
 
Some right dandy questions... lets see how well I can do.
A microbe is a one celled organism or clusters of organisms that come in many species and types. Out of the 5 types of microbes, we are mostly interested in the Archaea and Fungi groups. Within these groups are millions of sub species and they come in a variety of body types such as protozoans, amoebas and paramecium. They basically work together to break down organics in your soil and will actually eat raw nutrients, excreting the nutrient in a more usable form or breaking it down out of the organics. Some microbes are in a symbiotic relationship with the plants and not only will excrete the nutrients that the plant needs, but the plant also excretes in return, some additional nutrient needed for the microbe to thrive.
I do not know the specific processes the microbes use to turn the nutrients into a more usable form. I studied business and marketing instead of biological sciences.
Dynomyco is freeze dried fungi. The fungal network takes time and large areas to work with. That takes time and it is best to start as early as you can. Soil activator is most likely another set of highly specialized microbes helping to aid in the composting initial prep of the soil... these are not the same microbes that feed your plant, these are the soil builders.
It seems the geoflora is best mixed with the soil of your first cup prior to the first top feeding 2 weeks later. I am still not clear as to the best way to do this. Dynomyco needs to be in contact with the roots, so generally it is added to the bottom and sides of the hole made to transplant into for best effect.
Yes, in sohum or any other supersoil arrangement, Geoflora would act as not only a supplement but also a primary source of feed, and a microbe inoculation. I have supersoil in my containers, but am not counting on it at all for this grow. It is there to enhance the next grow, to be mixed with the soil as I break up these rootballs for the next grow.
I am sure that if you had a mind to, you could overfeed with Geoflora. It is half raw feed after all, along with the microbes, and some of that feed is immediately available. I am sure that as with most things, there is at some point too much of a good thing. Always remember that with any feed, there is a water soluble component that oftentimes is the readily available component, and it could be overdone in the right circumstances.
There are several ways to underfeed an organic grow. First, the elements needed can be lacking... you can't feed if there is nothing there. But also, the microbes can be damaged or missing and even though the raw nutrient is sitting there in the soil ready to be processed, the plants can still starve. As always, watch your plants for signs in the leaves that something isnt right.
And those are some right dandy answers. Thanks a ton. Awesome information.

So I get it. Dynomoco is the same thing essentially as the Great White I use. Fine, that's easy I know how to use that. And it sounds like I may as well go ahead and mix in the soil activator to the photo soil now, even though we're at least ten days from transplant, maybe two weeks, depending on rate of growth, to allow the babies to begin mulching the soil in preparation for the plants. If that's correct, I get that too.
Good to know about Geoflora as a Sohum supplement. I am going to try that on a Strawberry Banana or two when they start to bud a bit and see how it goes.
Easy understanding on the over/under feeding.
Yes, I will watch. I have been known to spend a few minutes with my plants. :rofl:

Gracias, mi hermosa nina.
 
Just How Cool Does The @Mars Hydro FC-E6500 LED Run?

One of the most important features we consider when choosing a light is the heat it puts off. All lights generate some level of heat, the light with zero heat output does not exist. But on top of whatever else we seek in a light, we want one that manages it's heat output effectively. The cooler the light runs, the more you can do for the plants with it.

So I ask myself, just how cool does this awesome new light run, anyway?

Then I went outside and was lucky enough to catch this scene, and I believe this picture says it all. If you can't tell in the picture, this is a very large dragonfly languishing on one of the diode bars of the FC-E6500, which is cranked all the way up at 100% power, as hot as it ever gets. Do you think that insect would be sitting there if those diodes were hot like those little ten watt LEDs your first blurples had? :rofl::rofl::rofl:

Now THAT is a cool running light!!!!! Bravo Mars Hydro.

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Strawberry Banana #3 Auto Takes the Prize for First Girl to be Up-Potted
Day 16


So the first plant that was rooted enough to up-pot is the Strawberry Banana Auto #3. I transplant with the same system I always use, which is very common. I would not up-pot a photo, even from a Dixie Cup, this early. With autos it's different - I feel if you choose to up-pot, you are wise to do it as soon as you possibly can. In today's case, I checked the roots first (see picture) and I saw that while they were not grown out enough to up-pot in a perfect world, they WERE grown out and down enough to hold the root ball together for transplant. With autos, that's all I wait for, as if you wait til the roots truly fill the Dixie Cup the optimum way, you will be transplanting on like day 28 or something like that, and at that point you up-pot a plant that you have no time to train in the final container before it begins to bud. Thus I do it asap, and that was today. No problem, perfect transplant.

Here's the pot prep for this girl and all the autos:

Sohum advises to NOT plant a Dixie Cup started auto directly into straight Sohum, as it may be too much for the young girl. They advise what I call a buffering. So after a long YouTube search I finally found a guy who had a method I liked and I tried it on the Sour Apple in the other grow who is in the @Mars Hydro rig now. The results are amazing, so I'm sticking with it.

The short version is that you have the pot divided into 3 different soil mix parts.
- The bottom half of the pot is all Sohum
- The top half of the pot is half Sohum, half my Fox Farms soil mix, completely mixed together
- In the center of the round cylinder of the pot is a smaller Dixie Cup sized cylinder that goes top to bottom in the pot and is filled entirely with the base potting mix you started with in the Dixie Cup, in my case straight Fox Farms soil blend. You transplant into this cylinder, which you obviously want to create in the middle of the pot, lol. I use one of the Fox Farms quart size nute containers to make the cylinder, it's the perfect circumference.

My understanding is that this allows the plant to "ease in" to the hot Sohum with all those greedy microbes just waiting. It allows for the main tap root to stay in the original soil mix while all the feeder roots extend out into the Sohum. It's a great system. Anyway, a few days ago when I prepped the pots I amended the top half of the soil with the Soil Activator that @GeoFlora Nutrients sent me as part of @Rexer's prize pack, to begin to "mulch" the soil before the actual transplant. And then finally I dusted the transplant hole with Great White (mycorrhizae) before dropping in the plant.

I'm still processing that I don't have to mix any nutes for this grow between using GeoFlora Nutrients on the photos and Sohum living soil for the autos. Whatever will I do with myself? Lol.

Here's the plant. Gorgeous auto so far, I really dig the formation of her leaves and the color. There's before and after shots and a picture of the roots. Enjoy.

top shot pre transplant.jpg


Side shot pre transplant .jpg


Roots.jpg


Strawberry Banana Transplant done.jpg
 
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