Is this stem dying: Should I cut off?

[Lonerandstonerforever]

Hello 3 weeks into flower this stem is receiving like no light so I think it's dying should I cut it?

 

[Melville Hobbes]

Looks like it's already dead. I would take it off.
Maybe someone else will have a different opinion.

 

[Bill284]

Hello 3 weeks into flower this stem is receiving like no light so I think it's dying should I cut it?

Good morning @Lonerandstonerforever how are you doing today my friend.
I find if a branch is below the light line it just draws energy and produces larfy junk.
I see no problem cutting it off
Besides it doesn't look good.

Stay safe
Bill

 

[SmokingWings]

Good Morning! Well it is mid-morning here so maybe "Good Day to you".

Stems can die off from several things but it is hard to tell what is happening there. Both photos are out of focus and at best it looks like they are drooping. Taking photos of plants in the purple-red colors given off by some LED lights really can throw off the little computer chips that are reading the light and trying to keep subject in focus. Maybe try turning off the grow light and turn on the white light bulb in the ceiling light or get a table lamp into the area. Let the camera use the flash. Sometimes moving the plant to someplace where it can get sunlight makes a big difference but I know that it is a chore to move around plants in 3 gallons of soil so bring the light to the plant.

It looks like the camera or phone is to close to the stem so the autofocus cannot pick out something to use as the focal point. Back off a foot or so more than you are already and try again. It might work.

Weak stems that are starting to droop can be caused by one or more of several things. Number one reason for my plants is plain ol' being weak from not enough minerals and nutrients. Genetics of the plant play a role in that but for me it is from not enough calcium. Fast growing plants like Marijuana that are growing under LED lights seem to need more calcium than typical houseplants, etc that grow slower. Find a Cal-Mag product and start using it earlier in the grand scheme of things like weeks before the flowering starts; I start while the plant is still in the vegetating stage.

Other possibilities include molds or fungus or something similar that get into the stem or into the leaves. It does look like the growing tip on the stem you might be talking about is wilting. Some growers have found holes in their stems and the fungus got in through that opening.

Also, some sort of insect might be causing the problem. Something might be sucking the sap from the stem or leaves.

Damage to the stem will heal up most of the time before a problem can develop. But if the plant is already weakened from molds or insects or lack of nutrients it might not heal up fast enough and the problem gets worse faster.

 

[Lonerandstonerforever]

Good morning @Lonerandstonerforever how are you doing today my friend.
I find if a branch is below the light line it just draws energy and produces larfy junk.
I see no problem cutting it off
Besides it doesn't look good.

Stay safe
Bill

Hello bill I'm doing good how are you? Also the ladies are doing great besides those few branches I just cut off a few more off another lady there the only part doing bad and it's due to the hug canopy I have above i just didn't know if it was too late in flower and if it would harm them

 

[Lonerandstonerforever]

Good Morning! Well it is mid-morning here so maybe "Good Day to you".

Stems can die off from several things but it is hard to tell what is happening there. Both photos are out of focus and at best it looks like they are drooping. Taking photos of plants in the purple-red colors given off by some LED lights really can throw off the little computer chips that are reading the light and trying to keep subject in focus. Maybe try turning off the grow light and turn on the white light bulb in the ceiling light or get a table lamp into the area. Let the camera use the flash. Sometimes moving the plant to someplace where it can get sunlight makes a big difference but I know that it is a chore to move around plants in 3 gallons of soil so bring the light to the plant.

It looks like the camera or phone is to close to the stem so the autofocus cannot pick out something to use as the focal point. Back off a foot or so more than you are already and try again. It might work.

Weak stems that are starting to droop can be caused by one or more of several things. Number one reason for my plants is plain ol' being weak from not enough minerals and nutrients. Genetics of the plant play a role in that but for me it is from not enough calcium. Fast growing plants like Marijuana that are growing under LED lights seem to need more calcium than typical houseplants, etc that grow slower. Find a Cal-Mag product and start using it earlier in the grand scheme of things like weeks before the flowering starts; I start while the plant is still in the vegetating stage.

Other possibilities include molds or fungus or something similar that get into the stem or into the leaves. It does look like the growing tip on the stem you might be talking about is wilting. Some growers have found holes in their stems and the fungus got in through that opening.

Also, some sort of insect might be causing the problem. Something might be sucking the sap from the stem or leaves.

Damage to the stem will heal up most of the time before a problem can develop. But if the plant is already weakened from molds or insects or lack of nutrients it might not heal up fast enough and the problem gets worse faster.

Thank you very much for all the knowledge provided i hopr you are having a good morning as well thankfully the plants themselves are very healthy over 6 feet tall huge buds and I feed them fox farms trio it's due to the huge huge canopy above absolutely no lights penetrating so I have cut them I thankfully have no pests and when I do get little black flies hydrogen peroxide mixed with water does the trick i was more concerned if it would be ok to cut off and not kill the plant by cutting off

 

[IKilledIt]

If it’s already dead/ dying. Removing it is far less stressful on the plant. Besides it could possibly mold, spread spores and cause worse problems. Plants look great tho.

 

[Bill284]

Thank you very much for all the knowledge provided i hopr you are having a good morning as well thankfully the plants themselves are very healthy over 6 feet tall huge buds and I feed them fox farms trio it's due to the huge huge canopy above absolutely no lights penetrating so I have cut them I thankfully have no pests and when I do get little black flies hydrogen peroxide mixed with water does the trick i was more concerned if it would be ok to cut off and not kill the plant by cutting off

I'm good thank you.
Your ladies are beautiful my friend.
Nice work.

Stay safe
Bill

 

[Lonerandstonerforever]

If it’s already dead/ dying. Removing it is far less stressful on the plant. Besides it could possibly mold, spread spores and cause worse problems. Plants look great tho.

You are right thank you so much for the info and thanks for the complement here's one more picture

 

[Lonerandstonerforever]

I'm good thank you.
Your ladies are beautiful my friend.
Nice work.

Stay safe
Bill

Thank you bill it means a lot coming from such a good grower and nice person!

 

[SmokingWings]

Thank you very much for all the knowledge provided i hopr you are having a good morning as well thankfully the plants themselves are very healthy over 6 feet tall huge buds and I feed them fox farms trio it's due to the huge huge canopy above absolutely no lights penetrating so I have cut them I thankfully have no pests and when I do get little black flies hydrogen peroxide mixed with water does the trick i was more concerned if it would be ok to cut off and not kill the plant by cutting off

Nice looking plants. Big difference when the photos are taken in white light. Looking good now.

However, the other photo that was in the blue-purple colored light still is bugging me. I have not seen plants wilt like that from lack of light no matter how much they are shaded by other branches and leaves.

What I see in the other photo are some leaves that have not wilted which I circled in green. But, at the tips of the same stalk or stem the entire growing tip has wilted including several inches of the stem. Those are circled in blue. I know I have seen examples of that before. Looked up Marijuana leaf diseases and that looks very similar to what happens with 'root rot' which is sometimes caused by the same pathogen that causes Fusarium Blight or Fusarium Wilt.

Just bringing this up so you can watch to be sure that the wilt does not come back. Here is the photo with the circles...

 

[Lonerandstonerforever]

Nice looking plants. Big difference when the photos are taken in white light. Looking good now.

However, the other photo that was in the blue-purple colored light still is bugging me. I have not seen plants wilt like that from lack of light no matter how much they are shaded by other branches and leaves.

What I see in the other photo are some leaves that have not wilted which I circled in green. But, at the tips of the same stalk or stem the entire growing tip has wilted including several inches of the stem. Those are circled in blue. I know I have seen examples of that before. Looked up Marijuana leaf diseases and that looks very similar to what happens with 'root rot' which is sometimes caused by the same pathogen that causes Fusarium Blight or Fusarium Wilt.

Just bringing this up so you can watch to be sure that the wilt does not come back. Here is the photo with the circles...

Hello smoking I hope your well thank you so much for the info I really hope it's not root rot I let my soil dry out super nice and never completely drench it usually have to water once a day sometimes twice if they are super thirsty ill look into those fungi and do some more research thanks again