I screwed up. One of my ladys had a closet sex change-seeds visable-I need a hug!

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2001vettez06

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Very depressed today, I've managed to screw up my first grow attempt. Well somewhat anyway, as today I checked on the plants and I've been keeping an eye on a couple bud sites b/c I noticed pockets that look like they could have been nursing seeds. Couple of those pockets have now opened and sure enough she's got seeds :oops:

Now being this is my first grow, I did try to read a TON on how to care and nurse the ladys to good health(I'm obsessive about new hobbies lol). I thought I had most of the bases covered, but something went wrong for them to go to seed. Several suspects so far.

1) Bagseed---I have 3 ladys out of 8 planted that were fems. The sex was determined BEFORE flower so I don't see that being an issue. However, maybe the genetics of the mid(was good mid mind you) that I wanted to try to nurse up to some decent smoke is unstable and could be one reason it got moved on the street as mid??? More apt to herm????

2) Temps were unstable for awhile around weeks 4-7 of flower. When I got my Area51 leds, I went from about 460w of Blackstar LED and T5 fixtures to about 920-940w of Area51 leds in the 5x5 tent which that sits in a 8x7x8 room. Temps for about a week were in the high 80's to low 90's. Then I put a vent in room and got them to the low 80's for about 1-2 weeks before I took the plunge and got a 10k btu portable AC unit, and now tent temps are in the high 70's to low 80's.

3) My 5x5 tent is a cheaper one off Amazon--- I have a small 20w or so CFL in my storage room that I do turn on if I need to work in and around that room or go to the 2x4x5 tent that is also in that storage room. Also, if I'm in the 2x4x5 tent, and those lights are on, that tent does face a non zippered wall of my 5x5 tent, and there is a passive vent flap there, maybe light leaked???

4) I changed light setups 3 times for the first 4 plants that were in the 5x5 tent. Initially big t5 fixtures, then to LED/T5 and finally all T5. Maybe they freaked a bit?

5) Tent is over packed now a bit. Didn't realize how much some of these plants would stretch or bush out once they flipped to 12/12. I could easily(and will next grow) go from 12-13 which I have in there now, down to 6-9 and scrog them. They are packed in there and some are up into eachother :(.

Never saw any male banannas, so I'm really bummed about this. It's not the end of the world mind you, but I thought I had somewhat of a handle on this since I've put so much time into research etc... trying to learn on a self taught crash course with the help of the forums.

I have 3 strains going in this tent and only one so far, the one I call G6 which shows indica and sativa characteristics is showing seeds. Gotta believe is someone in there grew balls, then he's probably happily for him, taking his money shots whenever he can, and given my current luck the whole crop is probably seeded :(. Problem is, I haven't seen the little bugger, so tonight when lights come back on I'll have to hunt for the pecker(s).

So I need a hug from you all and tell me not all is lost. I know it will still smoke and probably be better than some ditch weed, but man I had such high, yeah pun intended, hopes. I need to try to look at the bright side and tell myself this is all a learning experience and once I hopefully figured out what I screwed up, I can hopefully prevent it in future. Plus for personal use for me/wife/some friends it will suffice. I wanted some medical quality stuff though, and was bragging to my friend who's helped me alot that I think we could nurse good mid to medical quality given lack of seeds lol. Well, guess that ain't gonna happen now. Plus the mid we got these seeds from did the job, and I would think having it not bricked up will help somewhat with quality. If I'm lucky(which I'm not generally) maybe only a few seeds happen, but man I just can't see that happening.

Guess I'll start looking for better genetics from sammies or Nirvana and get some legit strains to grow out.

Sigh!
 
Re: I screwed up. One of my ladys had a closet sex change-seeds visable-I need a hug

Hey 2001, Welcome to 420magazine. I think it is awesome that were proactive and started researching first. With my first grow I just jumped in feet first and read along as I was growing. Asking questions whenever an issue would arise. But it seems to me that you have things pretty dialed in for a first time grower. The same goes for cutting yourself some slack. You even said it, this is your first grow, mistakes are bound to happen. You learn from those mistakes and try not repeat them in the next grow.

It kinda sounds like to me that they hermied due to the things you have listed. I know you're bummed about the seeds but at least you have fem seeds now. Just maybe with a greater chance of going hermie but it doesn't mean all the seeds will. I would keep them but that's just me. And as you mentioned the smoke will still be good. I know mine was when my plant hermied on me last grow.

So pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and keep it going. I don't think any of us had a perfect first grow. Look at this way, it could've been worse and had more difficult issues. Take the good with the bad or look at the good from the bad. All is not lost.
 
Re: I screwed up. One of my ladys had a closet sex change-seeds visable-I need a hug

found a problem that most likely caused the issue.

Went into tent today during the dark period to check for light leaks and found one, although WAY different than I thought possible.

All the Area51 leds had a slight glow to them, enough so that with all 4 lights having many LED's with a barely noticable glow individually, as a group there was enough light to where you could see tent walls :O.

Started plugging, unplugging, and testing things with multimeter and ended up being the timer was allowing voltage leak through.

Damm, seeded a crop based on a cheap timer allowing voltage leak.

Gotta try to find a timer that will stop that from happening.

Also, not sure if I should pull the crop and start again, as I have plants that could go into flower now.

Oh well, live and learn!
 
Re: I screwed up. One of my ladys had a closet sex change-seeds visable-I need a hug

Hit attitude seed shop up, I've had nothing but great seeds from them. and they've all been very very stable. There's been more than a couple times I think a lessor quality seed would've hermied on me. lol.. and sometimes, no matter what u do, you can end up getting some seeds somehow. I've been very fortunate since starting to grow, Mainly thanx to this forum..
 
Re: I screwed up. One of my ladys had a closet sex change-seeds visable-I need a hug

well latest update :)

Working in the garden a couple weeks ago, I managed to knock a couple of branches damaging some of them. Took them off and practiced some drying/curing etc... Sampled them about 1-2 weeks after pulling and not too shabby. Man the crystals really seem to stand out once dried and cured.

This past week, I pulled one of my runt plants. Probably a bit early, but needed the room. Trichs looked bout 1/4-1/3 cloudy and rest clear so yeah it could have matured more, but again I had my reasons. Plus I was out of medicine lol.

After drying and putting jars(for just a couple days), they are still quite early to start smoking for best quality/taste etc... But I could only hold off so long and rolled a J up last night. WOW!!! Even though I get some random seeds here and there, this stuff is fantastic. Was pretty spacey and trippy too, which I like to an extent, but I think if the plant was allowed to continue it would have been a better all around high. I think we'll get about an ounce off of the runt once everything is cured and final trim is done. Not too shabby for a runt, plus a noob on their first grow :). Gotta thank all the peeps on this site for the knowledge and support. Buds are nothing special in appearance, but I'll try to get a pic up later for my virgin attempt at bud porn lol.
 
Re: I screwed up. One of my ladys had a closet sex change-seeds visable-I need a hug

Hey 2001. Same thing happened to me with one of my plants. The few seeds that were present didnt seem to take that much away from what turned out to be pretty good smoke. Just keep chugging along. Nothing like smoking bud you grew yourself. Try some different strains. Its fun to watch how differently each strain grows and its nice to have a variety of weed around to. Are you growing in soil or something else?
 
Re: I screwed up. One of my ladys had a closet sex change-seeds visable-I need a hug

been busy so haven't updated this in awhile.
This first run ended up doing very very well. Despite a fair number of seeds in one of the 3 strains it was the most powerful and tastiest so far. I learned ALOT during this grow. After the seeds came, I became a bit reckless with the nutes and burned them pretty bad. So this next run hopefully I will have everything worked out. My electricity is fixed, so the LED's aren't staying on at low glow anymore. I'll know to defoliate a bit better, not nuke them with nutes and my temp/humidity/ph is now all in range :).

I have several other "dank" seeds my buddy has given me to see what "the mad scientist" as he calls me, can do with them. We also ordered some Sannies Seeds and will be trying Anesthesia, Herijuana, and Jackberry, plus the free something Kush(forget full name).

All I know is that even my worst buds are getting us better results than some of the $400+/oz stuff we'd get locally, so I'm really happy that even our less than ideal results are still giving us great effects :).

thx guys/gals for all the help/support/information through the forums and the words of encouragement in these threads when I was down.
 
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