Looks like a good job on them.
Homer's Legal 4-Plant Max Perpetual Minimalist Garden In Ontario
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Clean up on aisle 2! Nice work Homer
Thanks, buddy. I think that is going to really help. It was good timing to harvest and see what little good all those little branches did.
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Thanks, Penny. It doesn't show up so well in the mass of branches but I stripped the bottom half at least of every branch and only left the ones that reach the canopy.
You'll make up for it with heavier main colas
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I know you have a lot of experience cloning @Pennywise so I am hoping you can give me some advice. I know cloning is done mostly with a mother plant and I would have one for my CBD strain but since I am only allowed four plants legally I have just been taking cuttings of each successive generation just after budding begins and I was wondering if that causes problems down the road?
And I was also wondering if it is best to take main branches when taking a cutting or if a lower secondary branch would grow as well?
And I was also wondering if it is best to take main branches when taking a cutting or if a lower secondary branch would grow as well?
You could clone from successive generations for a long time. They recommend lower branches for cloning. At some point you may want to do a couple of clones and reverse one to pollinate the other and make S1's in case something happens and you lose your mother.
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Glad to hear I can clone successive generations for a long time because I am just about to start generation three. Making some S1’s sounds like a great idea but first I have to figure out what strain I want to keep. This Cannatonic has three different phenotypes so before I start making seeds I have to determine if I have what I want but once I do it does make a lot of sense to make seeds.
I am glad I asked about which branches to clone because I just assumed the top branches were best because they seem to grow more vigorously but I will take them from the bottom from now on. Thanks again for the help; you guys are a priceless resource.
The older branches start getting woody and harder to clone, younger branches are the quickest to root.
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Right now I am drying my harvested Cannatonic strain. This is the strain I am growing for my CBD and this is what the breeder’s website says about the THC/CBD ratios, “ratios vary from 30:1, 1:1, 1:30 THC:CBD depending on phenotype”.
So basically I may have wasted two months veg stage and another three months in budding stage to find out that this strain is 30 to 1 THC to CBD and pretty much useless to me for CBD. Apparently all the CBD strains are like this with different phenotypes so you never really know what you are getting until you grow it and then how are you supposed to know what ratio you have without lab testing?
This just seems to be a hit or miss random chance of getting the CBD you are after and I wonder why? My understanding is that to feminized seeds you would take two cuttings of one mother plant so the two cuttings would have the exact same genetics as the mother. Then one cutting is stressed using some silver concoction so that the one female plant develops male stamens and pollen. And then the second cutting which has remained female is budded and pollinated with the stressed cutting to make seeds.
Now my understanding is that since you started with one plant both cuttings have the same exact genetics which means the seeds produced would have the exact same genetics. If this is true then why don’t these seed producers know which phenotype they are selling because shouldn’t it be the same as the mother plant they started with? It just seems like they are really screwing us over by not letting us know what phenotype of seeds we are getting when that can be easily determined by the mother from feminized seeds. Could someone please tell me what is wrong with my logic because if this is right these breeders are really falling down on their responsibilities not letting people know what phenotype they are buying.
So basically I may have wasted two months veg stage and another three months in budding stage to find out that this strain is 30 to 1 THC to CBD and pretty much useless to me for CBD. Apparently all the CBD strains are like this with different phenotypes so you never really know what you are getting until you grow it and then how are you supposed to know what ratio you have without lab testing?
This just seems to be a hit or miss random chance of getting the CBD you are after and I wonder why? My understanding is that to feminized seeds you would take two cuttings of one mother plant so the two cuttings would have the exact same genetics as the mother. Then one cutting is stressed using some silver concoction so that the one female plant develops male stamens and pollen. And then the second cutting which has remained female is budded and pollinated with the stressed cutting to make seeds.
Now my understanding is that since you started with one plant both cuttings have the same exact genetics which means the seeds produced would have the exact same genetics. If this is true then why don’t these seed producers know which phenotype they are selling because shouldn’t it be the same as the mother plant they started with? It just seems like they are really screwing us over by not letting us know what phenotype of seeds we are getting when that can be easily determined by the mother from feminized seeds. Could someone please tell me what is wrong with my logic because if this is right these breeders are really falling down on their responsibilities not letting people know what phenotype they are buying.
I think most are going to be high cbd but they are just lawyer proofing their product.
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Oh, ok, that does make sense, sadly enough. I am curious though if I do have it right in that if you make seeds from one mother plant using the silver thiosulfate method will all the seeds have the exact same genetics as the mother besides being all female?
They'll be close but not identical
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Good. Then if I find my Cannatonic has high CBD I will try and make some fem. seeds. Thanks.
They should all carry the high cbd
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Hey Homer! Hope your doing well! I’m just making my rounds and catching up looks like things are doing well over here! I hope you and the fam are well!