Help plants from same area, 1 lot doing well the other not!

[DrTentgrow]

Hello all, i have been pulling my hair out recently!! i had 10 dutch passion powerplants on the go about 3 weeks out and were doing very well! i could only grow 6 in this area so i gave some away 2 of which to a friend with a good little setup in a wardrobe, only problem is after about a week and a half his plants are looking shit and mine perfectly healthy? i have a heater on a thermostat keeping the temps inside my grow tent around 24c. where as my friends temps are around 22c? it's definitly not a ph problem as we both have ph pens and keep them calibrated also the plants were in the same growing medium. they wont of suffered much transport stress as i heated my car to a nice temp and moved them as quick as possible. when they started looking crap i gave them a half strength shot of canna vega (veg nutes) this was about 3 days ago, then i transplanted them 2days ago, also i gave them rhizotonic to help the transplant shock. i know i should be more patient for this problem to rectify as it hasn't been to long since i fed and transplanted but i can't get my head round why mine are doing more then fine, also althou they are under a 600w mh both mine and my friends were under a cfl until yestaday when we both switched. they are in a 50/50 mix of plagron light mix and canna terra soil with dolomite lime to buffer the ph, i have use this exact same mix on previous grows with good results. the lower leaves have started to yellow and look bad also every now and then they go droopy and look horrible! normally about 2 hours before lights out and take a while in the mornings to get back up again and never regain full vigour. pleease could someone shed some light on this, thanks,

 

[MLGrowing]

Re: HELP* plants from same area, 1 lot doing well the other not!

I'm no expert but i'll try to help as much as I can. As for the yellowing have you checked out the diagnostic forum for plants, it can show you signs and what defficency it has. As for the drooping plants if they are on a light schedual for a set amount of time ive seen that around time to shut off the lights they droop some as if they were going to sleep. In the morning they are droopy a little aswell but should perk up after an hr or two. The next time you water make sure your soil is nice and dry and give it some good old H2O. (with the correct ph that is) Anyway i hope this helps out some

Also how far away is the MH at times?

 

[ilikebike]

Re: HELP* plants from same area, 1 lot doing well the other not!

give them a watering with some nutrients, i see the slight discoloration you are talking about but it doesn't look serious , also have you been testing your pH levels in the water?

 

[DrTentgrow]

Re: HELP* plants from same area, 1 lot doing well the other not!

Hi MLGowing: i know they can droop a little before lights out and take a bit of time in the morning but when these droop they look hideous! ( will put a picture up as soon as they do it again) also they take about 2 hours in the morning to get any where near up. i'm going to wait until the 1st inch of the top of the soil is dry before i next water like i usually do, in fact i think that's why mine are doing ok because i didn't allow for much run off at all when they were in smaller pots so that the nutrients lasted where as my friend gave them a drenching when he watered them so probably washed the nutes out. thanks for your input mate.

ilikebike: i fed them when they were still in the small pots with half strength nutes, this was only 4 days ago and then they were transplanted 2 days ago in to soil with more fertilizers in, do you think that i'm not waiting long enough for them to show signs of picking up?? thanks for your help guys!

 

[ilikebike]

Re: HELP* plants from same area, 1 lot doing well the other not!

oh you recently transplanted? the same thing happened when i transplanted into bigger pots, some of the lower foliage turned yellow then eventually brown and died off but as long as the new growth looks good you should be ok

These were my plants

Before the Transplant

After The Trasplant

They didnt show signs right away, it took like 2 or 3 days after the transplant and started to notice the plant being affected, i was worried but i just gave it a good watering with nutrients and it rebounded with in 24 hours i just cut off anything that looked bad, your plants are small so i dont suggest cutting anything unless it is brown and shriveling up you know its dead

 

[DrTentgrow]

Re: HELP* plants from same area, 1 lot doing well the other not!

Thanks for the help mate it's really appreciated, but this problem started to happen before the transplant???

 

[DrTentgrow]

Re: HELP* plants from same area, 1 lot doing well the other not!

My batterys just died on my cam but they are currently sagging about as much as possible and looking horrible!! its 18:30 here and lights aren't due to go off until 23:00

 

[MLGrowing]

How much are you watering it again, if to much they will dive down and be droopy. Post some updated pics so we can see more of whats going on (trying not to be pushy )

 

[Fuzzy Duck]

At such an early stage of growth or veg i would more than likely be incline to say it was a straight up Nitrogen - N defeciency as MJ has a habit of using a fair amount in that stage of growth.

As in a previous post watering with 50% strength nutrients & repotting aprox recovering time may take up to 10 days to see noticeable effect if defeciency is bad.

 

[SmokzAlot]

Based on the pics and reading the thread I suspect too much water combined with transplant shock. Let it dry, a dry period is important in good growth and root development. Look at the links in my sig for further pictorial help.

 

[GreenChrome]

It looks like a combination of stress and overwatering. I would agree with Smokz. Let them dry out a bit and recover from the changes. Watch the plants, the will tell you when they need water. Remember than when the top of the dirt is dry, the bottom of the pot may still be drenched. When this dries out, the roots grow longer in search of water. This is a good thing.

 

[weezie]

Plants need air in and out. look int cf and cfm's which will cure many many things.

 

[DrTentgrow]

Thanks everyone for the help it turns out it was just N deficiency and i wasn't being patient enough for them to pick up especially considering i did a transplant as well, it wasn't over watering if you look at my white widow grow journal you will see that i can do something as simple as water a plant correctly, i was just a bit confused as to why these plants were suffering a bit as I've never had any problems that early on in a grow, thanks again every one for your help. i will put pictures of them up soon so you can see how good they look now!!

 

[DrTentgrow]

Fuzzy Duck, your diagnosis was spot on thanks very much mate.

 

[DrTentgrow]

As promised a picture update, they have come back so well and are thriving! i have started lst'n them and they have been topped also i have put them back under the 250w cfl until they get a bit bigger. i think i will start a grow journal for this grow.

 

[GreenChrome]

Looking good, installing those eyes around the pots was a good idea.