Help! Bubble hash problem

[BB0420]

Hello,

So I have a rosin press and all but wanted to dip into the bubble bag field. I got the washing machine. Here’s my break down of today. I have 3lbs of good sugar leaves and a good amount of larf. I just ran 1.5lb that has been in the freezer for 2 days. I did (3) 10 minute runs and this is all I got. Nothing was in the 73 bag. Did I not wait long enough for it to drain through? Below are pictures of the weed I used the trim from some white widow. And also I really want to talk about what the hell kind of yield this is and what you think could’ve went wrong. It’s clearly user error..

 

[TurboBucket]

The bags are simply a sieve. You still need to agitate the material across the screen before it will sort and fall through.

I use a tower of bags and buckets to keep the bags off one another and make pulling individual bags for cleaning easier.

I spray each screen with the hose to make sure all the small particles fall through otherwise they all get stuck in the upper bags.

Look for Frenchi Canolli *(spelling) on YouTube gives a real nice breakdown from a hashishans point of view.

 

[BB0420]

I appreciate the info I will look into that video

 

[BB0420]

I still don’t understand where I went wrong. I sprayed my bags with water after. I don’t know I didn’t really agitate the bag to much because it was in the washing machine. I took it out of the freezer it was a frozen brick I broke it up a little inside the 220 bag. I don’t know I’m just not sure how I got such a poor yield. I know it’s user error too.

 

[BB0420]

After further reading I didn’t let my water sit for 10 minutes after mixing. I just immediately dumped it into my bubble bags. Second I didn’t have ice in my 220 product bag with my trim.. Wonder what else I missed.

 

[TurboBucket]

No ice is kind of a big deal LMAO. The temperature is what's doing work.

If the trichomes are not brittle enough they won't snap off the plant, they'll bend and mush. It's got to be as cold as you can keep it. That's why my machine is insulated.

Too much ice is bad too, it will crush the plant material giving your hash that nasty ass green tint so common with dry ice hash. They shake the shit out of it trying to get more yield and it ruins the quality.
Your not scraping the trichomes off with the ice, if you could keep the process cold enough without ice that would be ideal. The ice is just to keep it cold enough the movement through the water and against each other will rub the Frozen trichome heads off.

That's why I don't use a work bag, gives more movement throughout the water column.

My first wash is only 3 minutes, then 6 then 12 I ran a fourth @15 and didn't get much but I'll try with the next strains and see what they like. Some strains can apparently take 5+ washes but I haven't seen that yet.

 

[BB0420]

Well I had ice in the bubble machine but not in my work bag I read something that you should have ice in the actual work bag. Do you think this is played a big role in my lack of a yield?

 

[TurboBucket]

As long as the water and by extension the material is ice cold that's what your after.

 

[BB0420]

Well I had that. I just read I was supposed to have 1/3 of ice in the work bag. I thought maybe that’s what was the problem. Looks like I’m back to square one. I really don’t understand how I get 7gs from 1.5lbs of frozen sugar leaves and a lot of larf..

 

[Weaselcracker]

Turbo, the standard story on weed blogs and such used to be that it was largely the action of the ice cubes bashing against the frozen trichomes that broke them off. Is that no longer the story? I’m not one to put much faith in the info that gets copied and pasted and repeated on these sites. But still- I’ve never made bubble hash without ice -so can’t say whether it’s true or not that the ice needs to be in the mix.
I use a 30 gallon bucket and do all my mixing without the bags- then strain after.

I also mix it harder and for longer than I used to.

Bubble

• Weaselcracker
• Aug 16, 2019

 

[TurboBucket]

Nice presentation lol. It's so dark! Haha

I've read a lot of that as well it just doesn't add up to me. By that math the only way dry ice hash would work would be rubbing each leaf surface across the chunk of dry ice. Same with dry sift. It would also suggest that rubbing a bag of frozen trim together wouldn't produce a shower of trichome heads.

Once the trichs are frozen the heads will snap off much more easily. For 5 star bubble hash that's what your after, the heads, not the stalks. That's why the bag is 73 microns not 70 apparently.

More ice just means more hard stuff in there to crush and tear the leaves releasing more chlorophyll into the water and creating lots of little plant matter particles that will end up in your bags with the trichomes.



How full was your work bag bbo? Was it packed like a college kids bag of laundry for Mom on the weekend? Wondering if you basically you just tumbled a brick of weed in there without it really moving around much inside the bag.

It's possible the plants are not a good yielder

 

[BB0420]

The work bag was only a 1/3 full. Maybe it’s a bad yielding bud but I’m not sure it’s white widow. I don’t want there to be confusion I used ice just not in my work bag which growweedeasy says to do. I find that to be an accredited site with other things so I just don’t know if that’s going to make up a lot of “missing hash” but like I said I never let it sit for 10 minutes after washing I poured directly into the buckets. But at the end I did run cold water through the machine while the hose was still in the bucket to get anything missed. At least I thought that’s what I was doing. I’m not sure I just know I’m so unimpressed. I have another 1.5lb of sugar leaves and a lot of larf. I want to keep digging into research before I run again.

 

[BB0420]

I have a rosin press my white widow buds just went into mason jars Saturday reading 57-58% humidity I’m about to just take an eighth out of it and press it and see my return..

 

[Weaselcracker]

The times I figure my yield wasn’t as good as I expected, I save the material. Then I scratch my head over what went wrong, if anything, and whether to run it again mixing harder, or dry it and do a run using alcohol, or use it in oil, skin cream, whatever...

 

[BB0420]

Yeah but you get something as bad as 8gs for a 1.5lb of fresh frozen sugar leaves/larf. There was probably a 1/4-1/2lb just of larf easy

 

[TurboBucket]

By fresh frozen do you mean it was actually frozen before drying? Or was it frozen after drying. I'm assuming it was truly frozen wet. 1/3 of a work bag doesn't sound like a lot of material. I'll try to weigh my trim bags.
I don't think not having ice in the bag will make a difference. I don't wait a full ten minutes before I drain my machine but I do give it several minutes to settle before I drain and spray it out.

 

[Weaselcracker]

Yield is usually depressingly low for bubble hash, I find.
I’m usually running a few pounds at a time and using mainly bud.

The hash in that pic used a little over 1.5 pounds of bud. If I remember right It was mostly perfectly good bud that had been sitting in my jars for years and I decided to clear out to make more room

I can’t get dry ice where I live. I’m considering getting one of those bubble hash washing machine things I hear about. The process is just so much work.
What machine do you have ?

 

[TurboBucket]

Mine is a kuppet brand portable washing machine. Bought it on Amazon, looks exactly like the ones sold as hash washing machines but cost half as much.

 

[Weaselcracker]

And do you like it?

 

[TurboBucket]

Yea beats stirring it by hand for sure.

I've seen the paint mixer thing done but it looked like a mess and I didn't smoke any of that hash so I can't say for sure what the quality was.

Hardest part now is having bags cleaned and ready for the next wash to dump.