Genetically Advanced Strains

[HigherTheHigh]

I've tried my best to find the post with the exact information but a member mentioned that their was a strain out there that was guaranteed to be above 20% thc always, there was some mention of flavour but I can't remember that part, they did mention it was around $50 a seed.

Just wondered if anyone knew if it was true and what the strain was or had reviews anywhere.

 

[TorturedSoul]

That seems like a marketing ploy to me. First, because a breeder would have to grow out a few thousand plants - for bud production, not seed production, and I suspect that this is going to be exceedingly rare in the industry - to be able to be even reasonably sure that this would hold true "in most situations." Second, because (for whatever reason) not everyone harvests their plants at the peak of potency. Some like to wait until a non-insignificant percentage of the trichomes have already degraded.

But as a marketing ploy... yeah, it would probably be doable. Again, two reasons spring to mind: First, not everyone has their bud lab-tested. Second, at $50 per seed, considering the relatively minimal expense involved in growing a "breeding pair" of plants (or even just one, if it's a selfing), the expenserofit ratio is so astronomical that the breeder would easily be able to afford a fair few buybacks - it's like the Chinese laptop manufacturers who are just fine with the knowledge that their products have up to a 27% failure rate under warranty, lol. The cost of sending the customer a replacement laptop (or two) is simply figured into the initial selling price. (And the down payment at a buy here pay here used car lot is often the entire amount that the owner of the lot paid for the car when he bought it at the auto auction .)

Plus... "We are so impressed by this sporty little jewel powerful and prolific cannabis plant that we ***GUARANTEE*** that it will produce buds that have at least 20% THC!!!!!!" is bound to sell a lot of seeds. Along with the price, of course. Because, "Wow, man, $50/pop, that has to be some primo sh!t right there. Where can I get it?"

Lol.

 

[Dwight Monk]

Along with the points TS said above. How many people have access to testing and are going to pay $200 to find out what you grew is 20% or above? What kind of legalize baloney does their "guarantee" stipulate in the fine print? (sorry we don't accept testing from that lab or you harvested too early or blah blah blah) Does it even have a policy for their guarantee? I have trouble spending more than $10 a seed and $20 about tops for me, as would really suck to spend $50 and not have it germinate at all or die off for any of the multitude of reasons along with the ever present "chit happens" variable (light fell on it, cat ate it, wife yarded it out of the soil, etc.. etc...)

 

[HigherTheHigh]

I'm still trying to find the post, I'll keep searching.

I thought I'd ask and I knew I'd get the science behind it so I thank you both for that .

I'd just came across it and it really intrigued me, I did suspect it wasn't true but at the same time I'm still not no where totally knowledgeable on genetics.

One thing that does interest me is I speak with a few Growers and I've mentioned big producers that have their own in house genetics, turns out on the receipt ect that this one producer cut the plant and mylar bagged it for resale exactly 39 days later and honestly tasted like ice cream, how's this possible as I seen a documentary on the same producer that use those electronic trimmers and basically the bud gets pushed from pillar to post before being bagged, how can a flavour be so great after what can only have had 2-3 weeks max curing?

I know I've only been growing just over 4 year but I'm still no where near the tastes I should be getting, ask anyone and they'll tell you how much it upsets me I think I'm too honest when it comes to the quality of my own bud as I'm pretty sure people over exaggerate.

I hope your both well.

 

[Dwight Monk]

That and I have said it many times around the Forums, albeit one of them IMHO things but more to the "high" than THC % numbers as a complex collection of chemicals. As I have bought stuff at Dispensary that tested at 16% that kicked as hard or harder than 25%, even had one at 29% that it hit pretty hard but it had no legs at all and felt like it was over 20 minutes later.

What Breeders have you tried so far? I'm still learning as only growing about 4 years too, for me cure affect smoothness more than the flavor, as I always have some "ah crap"moments with scissors and nip off the end of a bud or something which get smoked as soon as they dry sitting on a paper plate (so like dried for 3 or 4 days is all), more harsh but the flavor has been there or so far anyway.

Have some mystery stuff curing chopped month or so ago that has little to no smell and hardly any taste to it (supposed to be a Candy____ Auto but they refused to flower until I switched lights), but haven't smoked enough yet to know if it rather meh stuff or not as had a couple hits yesterday of it to try it. From a former Sponsor that had various issues like that, some of their stuff I have grown was pretty good others I fought with the whole way and were a total let down (can't say name but think an upgraded piece in Checkers ) .

 

[Jackalope]

20+% of what? Making a strain stronger does not make it better.

The effects of a said amount of pot is much more important. The weed has to have a great high for more THC to make it better. I have seen high THC sativa's that trend to make you paranoid when they get stronger. Some strong indicas only put you asleep. More THC only brings out those traits.

Nothing wrong with high THC if it is done right. It is not the tell all for great weed though.

 

[HigherTheHigh]

No I didn't mean it was better it was just intriguing to see whether it was actually true, would of been nice if there was some truth in it but I'll add it to the learned facts lol.

I've grown with, Sensi, RQS, Seedsman, few others but mainly RQS, I've always cured or atleast tried and always had the same end product which is alway always a flavour free smooth smoke, not so smooth near the end but there's literally no change in end product and it does upset me at times, annoys me too.

The worst part about this year is mould, I just changed the schedule to and I tasted the bud before cure and honestly no bull it tasted like its supposed to and I also added a flavoured flush and I opened the box where it was drying to find a full plant completely covered in mould, looked like snow, gutted to say the least but I had to laugh.

I do currently have some drying, an Amnesia Auto and White Widow and Bruce Banger, this time around I changed my schedule with feed and I do think it's made a difference overall as the Sweet Skunk Auto testers I tried tasted like berries and its the first time a joint has brought a smile to my face in a long time.

I suppose flushing is another debate for another time but for me this time around made the taste way more reflective to a bag of bud I mentioned above.

 

[Dwight Monk]

Might try one of the berry type hybrids, those tend to have a stronger taste/smell to them in my experience. Sounds like try and find a different way or area to dry in if you can, never had that problem but probably get more air flow in my shed and a bigger area for them to dry in unlike in a box of some sort. You will find what works best for you and for where you are far as temp/humidity goes, it just can be a pain to get there as sometimes it's a rather bumpy road getting there

 

[TorturedSoul]

The worst part about this year is mould, I just changed the schedule to and I tasted the bud before cure and honestly no bull it tasted like its supposed to and I also added a flavoured flush and I opened the box where it was drying to find a full plant completely covered in mould, looked like snow, gutted to say the least but I had to laugh.

A friend of mine once lost a harvest because he tried to dry his bud in a shed when it was cold/rainy. Not due to mold - there was no electricity on that part of his property, so he got the bright idea to stick a kerosene heater in there. Whoops, lol.

I do currently have some drying, an Amnesia Auto and White Widow and Bruce Banger

Are those from Seedsman? Would you consider posting grow/smoke reports on the Amnesia Auto and White Widow in the Seeds, Clones, and Strains section of the forum, please? (And send me a link to the threads, lol)?

 

[HigherTheHigh]

Well this time around I flushed with a Berry flush now I've done two grows without flushing and it was the same outcome with the no taste but smooth smoke, this time straight after drying the Berry flavour was sensational and when it comes to the truth I'll for sure give it and its made me happy knowing the tweaks helped massively and even considering the flush solution actually came through, however I have 3 more strains to try and give a genuine review using it.

I'll admit when it comes to drying I'm not the greatest as I feel like I some times rush especially like this time around putting them in a box partially wt on toilet paper to dry and that was due to no where to dry but now the current plants have a tent of their own and their hung dry currently with the fan leaves only removed.

Mould is honestly the devil in growing I think I've had it every grow but I plan to change the room around next week as I also sleep in the same room as the two tents .

Yes I'm more than happy to review them, the White Widow and Bruce Banger needed an easy extra 2 weeks but I've got plants in veg desperately needing Scrog setups before they get too big.

I flushed the Amnesia for around 20 days with and without the flush agent and it smells beautiful, I'm not a sativa lover as sometimes they make me shake but I really do hope this works for me during the day, really sativa style buds too, I'm glad I've hung dry them as this plant currently is heavily trichomed.

 

[HigherTheHigh]

Amnesia Fast Review

Hello all this will be a smoke report that will include the initial grow data, taste test after harvest (currently), 4 week cure and 8 week cure. So for starters this plant had sever problems from the start that I myself caused due to root bounding 5L pots in only 4 weeks and a naughty PH pen...

www.420magazine.com

 

[Auggie]

there was some mention of flavour but I can't remember that part, they did mention it was around $50 a seed.

I used to have a wife who was a marketing specialist for Macy's in a large city.
She told me once about a large order of silk scarfs. They were really pretty, and well made. The buyer got a great deal on them, less than cost, because the supplier was going out of business. These scarfs sold for $100 up at other upscale stores, but because of the great deal they got they offered them for $25 each. What a deal.
It was the deal of the century -- and they didn't sell.

So, wifey marked them up to $89.95 ... and they sold out in a week.

It is a marketing ploy to let people assume that the price is an indicator of quality.
"This must be the bomb. At fifty bucks a seed, it must be great. "Oh, seeds for $5? Must be crap. I'll take two of the $50 seeds."

 

[Jackalope]

So true Auggie.

I still won't be buying any 5 dollar seeds. Quality does cost.

 

[Auggie]

So true Auggie.

I still won't be buying any 5 dollar seeds. Quality does cost.

Agree. I exaggerated for effect.

It's amazing sometimes how you can buy something, a good something for $100 ... but for $105 you get MUCH higher quality. I look, usually, in the mid-range of anything.

 

[grayeyes]

Ever hear of a strain called Panama Red? It can test at 12% THC. That didn't make a difference to people buying $10 oz to spend $40 on PR. It isn't the THC contrary to the dispensos bs. It is the terpenes and flavinoids.

I agree with what Dwight said.

 

[grayeyes]

Op, I can think of two that match the high THC and high prices. Both are defunct 'breeders'. One is Citrus Farmer a sativa blend that is supposed to come in about 33 %. And the other is Cherry Pie Kush Breath. I think they each sold 7 seeds for over $300 a pack.

 

[grayeyes]

And to be honest, I have held the Citrus Farmer for about 4 years now. I am not in a hurry to grow it.

But I did just pop some Panama Red.