First time grower: Dropping leaves and light colour

[Taylored]

Hi too all out there.
first time grower looking for help my girls are clones don't know the strand but am 5 weeks into it after they had rooted am looking to change them over to a 12/12 but have noticed then stems have turned a purple and leaves are lighter and dropped I have started to use a magnesium additives just looking for some help please

 

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[StoneOtter]

Hi taylored, the first pic shows the plant is flowering. Is it an autoflower? The rest are hard to see the leaves clearly.
Did you make holes in the bucket bottoms for good drainage?
What is the soil?
Are you aware of the wet/dry cycle they love and need with watering? There's a link in my sig about good watering habits I like a lot.
Do you have any plans for plant food coming up?
Glad you asked, folks here can figure this out.

 

[Pbass]

Welcome @Taylored How are those pails drained? I popped a drooper out of it's pot the other night...oh MAN was it rootbound! Looked like santa's beard on the bottom. Up potted, all perky today!

 

[Taylored]

Hi taylored, the first pic shows the plant is flowering. Is it an autoflower? The rest are hard to see the leaves clearly.
Did you make holes in the bucket bottoms for good drainage?
What is the soil?
Are you aware of the wet/dry cycle they love and need with watering? There's a link in my sig about good watering habits I like a lot.
Do you have any plans for plant food coming up?
Glad you asked, folks here can figure this out.

Hi stoneotter,
Thank you for your reply yes there are holes in the bottom of the pots around the outer edge and in the middle. No I was not aware of a dry and wet schedule I was going off the feel of the soil I was thinking they might be autoflowering but being the first grow and not having anything really to do with them before I am a bit out of my depths I was reading up they said it could be magnesium deficiency. I potted them into a potting mix and compost mixture and have been feeding them once a week with nutrients from the grow shop as I had been explain to. So any help would be greatly appreciated

 

[Taylored]

Welcome @Taylored How are those pails drained? I popped a drooper out of it's pot the other night...oh MAN was it rootbound! Looked like santa's beard on the bottom. Up potted, all perky today!

Hi pbass,
Thank you for your reply they have drainage holes in the bottom of the pots around the outer edge and in the middle. Should I pop one out of the bucket and look + up size the pot???

 

[Emilya Green]

First, I dont think that the plants are flowering. They are mature and showing pistils, and if you switch to 12/12 they will flower... but it is my belief that you are still in veg. All of your symptoms however point to the plant being severely rootbound and unable to uptake the nutrients needed. This makes it look like a nutrient deficiency when it may just be a root problem.

 

[StoneOtter]

Hi stoneotter,
Thank you for your reply yes there are holes in the bottom of the pots around the outer edge and in the middle. No I was not aware of a dry and wet schedule I was going off the feel of the soil I was thinking they might be autoflowering but being the first grow and not having anything really to do with them before I am a bit out of my depths I was reading up they said it could be magnesium deficiency. I potted them into a potting mix and compost mixture and have been feeding them once a week with nutrients from the grow shop as I had been explain to. So any help would be greatly appreciated

Ok good. Watering in my opinion is so important I put the link in my signature area down below. Without really seeing them well I feel I can see some overwatering. The down turned heavy looking leaves give that clue. I may be wrong but do read the link and see if you feel like they might be.
Here's a pic and some reading from the problem solver for overwatering. It's in the sig page too.

Over watering

Over watering is one of the biggest mistakes new growers make, reason for this is, because they feel the need to give there plant everything and will overdue a lot of things and one of them is over watering. By over watering your plant you soak the roots so much, they can't get enough oxygen and slowly die. The plant shows signs of over watering by: Wilting, droopy look, yellow and or dead leaves falling off, which includes leaves that don't look dead falling off. One of the best ways to tell how NOT to over water is by, picking up the pot when it is dry and then picking up the pot after you water. (This is a reason why it's smart to use light pots.) When you water, you want to water just enough to where you see a bit of water coming out of the bottom, not gushing or pouring out. Just enough to see a little bit, then you know the plant has enough water. To prevent over watering you can either: add more perlite to your soil, add hydrogen peroxide to your water for extra oxygen, all the while killing bacteria if any in the soil. After watering, wait a few days to water. Mj plants like a good watering and then a couple days to dry out in between watering. So it's very easy to over water. Besides the weight of the pot, another way to test if your plant needs water is to stick your index finger a couple inches into the soil. If the soil at the tip of your finger feels almost dry, then it's time to water again. The top of the soil should be allowed to dry out between waterings if it's still moist the plant does NOT need watered. You can also use a moisture meter which will tell you the level of moisture down in the soil. You can buy them at most garden supplies or hydro shops.
Here is a picture of what over watering looks like:

(Picture Provided by ShopVac)

 

[Taylored]

First, I dont think that the plants are flowering. They are mature and showing pistils, and if you switch to 12/12 they will flower... but it is my belief that you are still in veg. All of your symptoms however point to the plant being severely rootbound and unable to uptake the nutrients needed. This makes it look like a nutrient deficiency when it may just be a root problem.

Hi Emilya,
Thank you for your help if that is the case how would I know? And what can I do to fix the problem?

 

[Taylored]

Ok good. Watering in my opinion is so important I put the link in my signature area down below. Without really seeing them well I feel I can see some overwatering. The down turned heavy looking leaves give that clue. I may be wrong but do read the link and see if you feel like they might be.
Here's a pic and some reading from the problem solver for overwatering. It's in the sig page too.

Over watering

Over watering is one of the biggest mistakes new growers make, reason for this is, because they feel the need to give there plant everything and will overdue a lot of things and one of them is over watering. By over watering your plant you soak the roots so much, they can't get enough oxygen and slowly die. The plant shows signs of over watering by: Wilting, droopy look, yellow and or dead leaves falling off, which includes leaves that don't look dead falling off. One of the best ways to tell how NOT to over water is by, picking up the pot when it is dry and then picking up the pot after you water. (This is a reason why it's smart to use light pots.) When you water, you want to water just enough to where you see a bit of water coming out of the bottom, not gushing or pouring out. Just enough to see a little bit, then you know the plant has enough water. To prevent over watering you can either: add more perlite to your soil, add hydrogen peroxide to your water for extra oxygen, all the while killing bacteria if any in the soil. After watering, wait a few days to water. Mj plants like a good watering and then a couple days to dry out in between watering. So it's very easy to over water. Besides the weight of the pot, another way to test if your plant needs water is to stick your index finger a couple inches into the soil. If the soil at the tip of your finger feels almost dry, then it's time to water again. The top of the soil should be allowed to dry out between waterings if it's still moist the plant does NOT need watered. You can also use a moisture meter which will tell you the level of moisture down in the soil. You can buy them at most garden supplies or hydro shops.
Here is a picture of what over watering looks like:

(Picture Provided by ShopVac)

should I stop watering for a Bit? Or change them out of the pots to new larger ones?

 

[Pbass]

I was glad I checked. I wish I took a picture. It didn't seem to hurt my girls at all to pop them out of their pot with a tip and a tap and a little tug, and they definitely were gathering way too much mass at the bottom of the pot. You can pop them right back in then make a decision.

I'd say if it's possible, up pot, get a good weight of the new pot/plant combos as dry as possible, then soak em till they get 15% ish runoff. If the roots are brown, I'd be tempted to flush them more. Plain ph'd water won't hurt through all this stress I think too. I water mine like that and then let them dry to as close to that dry weight as I can before I water again. So I'm feeding the plants by their us, not my arbitrary schedule.

 

[Taylored]

First, I dont think that the plants are flowering. They are mature and showing pistils, and if you switch to 12/12 they will flower... but it is my belief that you are still in veg. All of your symptoms however point to the plant being severely rootbound and unable to uptake the nutrients needed. This makes it look like a nutrient deficiency when it may just be a root problem.

Thank you for your help this is them when I reported

 

[Taylored]

I was glad I checked. I wish I took a picture. It didn't seem to hurt my girls at all to pop them out of their pot with a tip and a tap and a little tug, and they definitely were gathering way too much mass at the bottom of the pot. You can pop them right back in then make a decision.

I'd say if it's possible, up pot, get a good weight of the new pot/plant combos as dry as possible, then soak em till they get 15% ish runoff. If the roots are brown, I'd be tempted to flush them more. Plain ph'd water won't hurt through all this stress I think too. I water mine like that and then let them dry to as close to that dry weight as I can before I water again. So I'm feeding the plants by their us, not my arbitrary schedule.

Thank you for your help

 

[Taylored]

Ok good. Watering in my opinion is so important I put the link in my signature area down below. Without really seeing them well I feel I can see some overwatering. The down turned heavy looking leaves give that clue. I may be wrong but do read the link and see if you feel like they might be.
Here's a pic and some reading from the problem solver for overwatering. It's in the sig page too.

Over watering

Over watering is one of the biggest mistakes new growers make, reason for this is, because they feel the need to give there plant everything and will overdue a lot of things and one of them is over watering. By over watering your plant you soak the roots so much, they can't get enough oxygen and slowly die. The plant shows signs of over watering by: Wilting, droopy look, yellow and or dead leaves falling off, which includes leaves that don't look dead falling off. One of the best ways to tell how NOT to over water is by, picking up the pot when it is dry and then picking up the pot after you water. (This is a reason why it's smart to use light pots.) When you water, you want to water just enough to where you see a bit of water coming out of the bottom, not gushing or pouring out. Just enough to see a little bit, then you know the plant has enough water. To prevent over watering you can either: add more perlite to your soil, add hydrogen peroxide to your water for extra oxygen, all the while killing bacteria if any in the soil. After watering, wait a few days to water. Mj plants like a good watering and then a couple days to dry out in between watering. So it's very easy to over water. Besides the weight of the pot, another way to test if your plant needs water is to stick your index finger a couple inches into the soil. If the soil at the tip of your finger feels almost dry, then it's time to water again. The top of the soil should be allowed to dry out between waterings if it's still moist the plant does NOT need watered. You can also use a moisture meter which will tell you the level of moisture down in the soil. You can buy them at most garden supplies or hydro shops.
Here is a picture of what over watering looks like:

(Picture Provided by ShopVac)

Thank you for your help

 

[StoneOtter]

I think Emilya and pbass hit it with needing a bigger pot. More soil = happy roots = happy plant.

 

[StoneOtter]

At this age when I water I wait for them to get light as a feather when I pick up the pot before watering. Watering frequency will become closer in days as time goes on. For instance, when you put these in a bigger pot they might need water every 4 to ?(light pot) days. After a few weeks you might be watering every other day again and might be thinking of going to the next pot soon. As an example my Lemon OG Candys I just put in bigger pots haven't needed water for 8 days since last water. The pots are getting close but the plants are doing well and not wilting so they are growing roots that are doing work. They went from 1 gallon to around 5 gallon.

 

[Taylored]

Wow ok thank you. I have just noticed today after repotting the leaves have become droopy and look a little dehydrated so I gave them a feed hopefully the right thing to do? I have also turned then to a 12 and 12 light

 

[Hdinkleman]

woulda been better to wait a bit

 

[Taylored]

Hi Hdinkleman
Do you think I should leave them I veg for a bit longer?

 

[Emilya Green]

Hi Hdinkleman
Do you think I should leave them I veg for a bit longer?

You should not move so fast... make one change and then wait a few days for the plant to adapt to it. Too many changes at once can confuse the plant and cause stress.

We can move 1000x faster than our plants but that doesn't mean we should! - Emilya​