F2 Rusty Glue anyone?

[vtwin906]

I got me 4 free seeds, I read a little about F2 seeds, what does it actually mean for casual growers? and F3 and F4 ...? and about the 8 week flowering period that begins when the sex appears? or when the light cycle changes?

Here's the seed info:
Rusty Glue F2 (Rusty OG F2 x Jedi Glue F2) Indica hybrid F2 strain, crossed from the PTP (purple) pheno of Rusty OG, is a very frosty and very potent strain grown indoors or outdoors. This powerful indica hybrid is very popular among medical cannabis users for it's high THC potential and awesome taste. Couch-lock is unavoidable as the high hits you instantly, and yet it still keeps creeping until you are completely stoned in a heavy body high. She has a spicy, sweet kush flavor with an earthy aftertaste. The aroma is a strong kush smell. Rusty Glue can reach THC levels reach up to 30% on average for outdoor and even higher for indoor. Rusty Glue will get very big outdoors but it's a heavy yielder indoors as well. This tasty indica medicine is very good for pain, stress, insomnia, and nausea. Also good for PTSD. Flowering period is about 8 to 9 weeks..

I havethe regular seeds and since I'm not looking to grow couch buzz weed I am thinking of using these seeds to pass time while I wait to move back to my house. I'm anxious to try a hempy method grow so tomorrow I may remember to pick up some distilled water and do a soak-a-bean ceremony. I have to take a 3 or 4 day trip toward the end of the month but good chance the plants could bulk up enough to use a container with enough water to last a few days. If I can sex them before my trip maybe water won't matter, but If there are females I have a friend who would probably give them a good home... or maybe I could adopt them.

 

[TorturedSoul]

This ought to help explain things:
F1 hybrid - Wikipedia
(...especially if you first read the general information vis-à-vis F₁ hybrids).

However, all of that sort of presupposes that the parental plants that produced the F₁ (or "F₁," whichever the case may be) generation weren't actually hybrids, themselves. Which is somewhat rare these days. Technically speaking, I do not believe it is correct to label the cross of two different F₂ lines as an F₂, although I could be mistaken.

<COUGH>See: Pollen-chuckers<COUGH>

If someone says to me, "I crossed one F₁ with a completely different F₁ and made seeds. Here you go, have some of them," well, it sort of translates to, "Here's a lottery ticket - good luck with that," lol. Because it's a crapshoot, basically. Express the odds of getting exactly what you're looking for as a fraction. Take that another forward another generation (because, again, your seeds' parents were the actual F₂ generation) AND, in the process, bring another set of genetics... Well, when one multiplies a fraction with another fraction, the result tends to be an even smaller fraction, lol.

It might be good, it might not. But in terms of "flip a coin to see what you'll get," you can't - because your coin won't have nearly enough sides. . . .

 

[vtwin906]

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It might be good, it might not. But in terms of "flip a coin to see what you'll get," you can't - because your coin won't have nearly enough sides. . . .

Thanks, sounds like the perfect seeds to experiment with!

 

[Jackalope]

F-2 seeds will just have a brouder genetic pool. Sometimes good sometimes bad.

 

[vtwin906]

The F2 seed opened around Jan 20th, I topped it a couple days ago and it is getting nice and bushy and growing fast with 1:1 FF grow big and big bloom @ 500ppm . This will be a practice plant for some training and pruning ...

 

[Jackalope]

I am going to be trying some Jacks Cleaner F-2's next year. All the best plants were male. I chose the best male for pollen. The only female I had had a hard start so it was to short for the flower room and got seeded instead. Not the best way to get F-2 seeds but it was all I had. I did cross the 2 main phenos so I hope I will get a good variety to look at. How many plants I have to grow tell I find a good one who knows.

That's a hardy looking plant good luck with it.

 

[vtwin906]

Aside from the main stem, I've only been gently bending the other stems out from the plant, they seem to accommodate well. Moved it under a separate veg light for a while.

 

[Jackalope]

I have always wanted to try some of the Rusty genetics. There was a Rusty Haze out that I really wanted to try.

 

[vtwin906]

I would like to flip to 12/12 soon but only have one full spectrum light which I will need for my auto-fem grow starting next month. I am thinking to try some clones from this one put them outdoors in June.

 

[Jackalope]

That could work. You could then keep it as a mother through the auto grow. Then flower it after they finish. It could be huge by then.

 

[vtwin906]

That could work. You could then keep it as a mother through the auto grow. Then flower it after they finish. It could be huge by then.

I am squished for indoor space at my house, no place to properly care for a largish mother. If I can get some clones going I may try to keep it going in my basement but temps will only be around 60 for quite a while yet. I am not so much into Indica couch weed so don't care if things go south.

 

[Jackalope]

If it's not a type of weed you like then your plan works. Always hard to lose great plants but if you don't like it it really can't be great.
Maybe you could find a nice home for it somewhere. If I was closer I would come get it.

My grow temps this year are pretty low. I have found out plants do pretty damn good in 60 degree temps. You may find it does fine in the basement. This last grow my temps are ranging from 58 to 72. for a few weeks during the coldest of the winter. They grew like hell.

 

[vtwin906]

If it's not a type of weed you like then your plan works. Always hard to lose great plants but if you don't like it it really can't be great.
Maybe you could find a nice home for it somewhere. If I was closer I would come get it.

My grow temps this year are pretty low. I have found out plants do pretty damn good in 60 degree temps. You may find it does fine in the basement. This last grow my temps are ranging from 58 to 72. for a few weeks during the coldest of the winter. They grew like hell.

very encouraging info, maybe cooler temps and 14/10 light cycle will keep growth constrained, it is growing way fast., should get in a flower tent soon. I will save it if I can, never know how well it will come out otherwise.... Next week I'll set up a 11/13 cycle in the tent with my small full spectrum bulb and put a cutting in there to see if I can get it to flower... I have not found anything like a pre flower now after 6 weeks. Once I know the sex I'll know if I need to get more clones before I flower the full plant.

 

[Jackalope]

Nothing like the wait for sign of sex lol. Almost like dating in California LMAO

 

[vtwin906]

I just pulled the trigger on another Full Spectrum LED 1000W for the tent, delivery is Wednesday. Dunked some seeds too, 3 Sour 60 auto and 1 Haze XL auto fem. Once the Sour 60's pre flower I'll soak another auto fem to replace any males. I'll start a new grow journal once the seeds open up. I'll do another hempy with the auto fem as I have enough hydro nutes, but will go with potting mix and BioThrive for the others.

 

[Jackalope]

What light were you using before? I am really interested in what exactly does replace a 1000 watt HPS. At some point in time I am sure I am going to need to switch. Till I know what lite to buy I plan to just keep using my HPS. At least till a new situation says I need LED now. That is why I am trying to find the right lite before I need it. I have to find someone that switched from a 1000 watt light to know what really works. Way to much money involved to play hit and miss with all the choices out there.

 

[vtwin906]

What light were you using before? I am really interested in what exactly does replace a 1000 watt HPS. At some point in time I am sure I am going to need to switch. Till I know what lite to buy I plan to just keep using my HPS. At least till a new situation says I need LED now. That is why I am trying to find the right lite before I need it. I have to find someone that switched from a 1000 watt light to know what really works. Way to much money involved to play hit and miss with all the choices out there.

I am already using a 1000 LED full spectrum and am very impressed with that so am getting another . This does not replace a 1000W HPS, more like replacing a 400W HPS. But they only draw 180W / 1.5Amps so easy on the elec bill. The new light also has veg & bloom switches so can reduce elec usage even further for seedlings and early veg. To replace a 1000W HPS would take at least a 2000W LED, way more expensive for sure than mine which are $110

For the past week the F2 has been under a 23W LED 5000K / 2640 Lumens light bulb like the one below and is growing fast, now sucking up about a quart a day. It is near the large light but well outside the direct illumination. I plan to re-put into a 4 gal bucket when I put it to flower in the tent. I am ditching the clone idea for now, just have too many other irons in the fire, also have a Blue Cheese clone to flower along with the F2

Here are today's mugshots...

 

[Jackalope]

Thanks that helps. I don't know for sure I am going to need that much light in the future. If I do I want to have what I need.

Yeah it sounds like you have your hands full lol. Plants can do that to you. Good idea though. It is real easy to excited and get more than you can handle going on. I have did it myself.

 

[vtwin906]

Rusty went into the flower tent at my house yesterday, transplanted to a 4 gal pail, not fun messing with all the perlite, I sure hope it goes female. I have a Blue Cheese clone waiting to flip once the F2 flips. I'll go direct to final pots with future hempy tries and probably stick with auto-fems. It's a 30 mile round trip to check on things at the house but there is work to do there anyway before we move back in a couple weeks.

 

[vtwin906]

the rusty one turned male, good lesson on why to pop the extra bucks for feminized seeds.
at least my blu cheese clone has plenty of space to spread out in the tent. It is in a 5 gal fabric pot with pro-mix amended with worm casings and extra perlite.