Kicknitup1
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Bucudinkydow; Well said sir. Much to think about. I may try it again with the 151 if you guys think it will get the job done. I will pay more attention to what's happening.
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There was a period where I was trying to reclaim more coconut oil from the dreggs by adding 10:1 water to the mix. I would squeeze out all I could and then add the hot water to try to float out all the additional oil trapped in the dreggs. Well, that works but I was making the nastiest tasting oil one could imagine. I mean awful. I wish there was a better way to get the chlorophyll, etc out of the Coconut oil. Even making edibles from CCO tastes pretty bad, hence the experimenting with alcohol...that and for gummys. So, we need a method of winterizing coconut oil.
Kickn, I may have an answer in a few days but it will be different from what you'll expect. I just cut a couple of buds from my Tangerine Dream in order to make some daytime caps and am fast drying them. I'll write everything up in my journal and coy it over here as I did before, but for this one there will be nothing extracted from the leaves, if I do things right.There was a period where I was trying to reclaim more coconut oil from the dreggs by adding 10:1 water to the mix. I would squeeze out all I could and then add the hot water to try to float out all the additional oil trapped in the dreggs. Well, that works but I was making the nastiest tasting oil one could imagine. I mean awful. I wish there was a better way to get the chlorophyll, etc out of the Coconut oil. Even making edibles from CCO tastes pretty bad, hence the experimenting with alcohol...that and for gummys. So, we need a method of winterizing coconut oil.
Kickn, I may have an answer in a few days but it will be different from what you'll expect. I just cut a couple of buds from my Tangerine Dream in order to make some daytime caps and am fast drying them. I'll write everything up in my journal and coy it over here as I did before, but for this one there will be nothing extracted from the leaves, if I do things right.
Cheers from the darkside
When I opened the limonene, I was greeted with an instant and overwhelming aroma of citrus. I added 3 drops to my tincture bottle containing 20-25 ml. That's slightly less than the recommended minimum mixture ratio. I added my normal dose to my coffee without great expectations. To my surprise, however, the effect had a definite added dimension to it. I had a heady, buzzy feeling with a bit of a body rush that I don't usually experience. It left me a little edgy and I'd stop short of saying it was a pleasant enhancement to my tincture.
The next day I added an additional 3 drops of the alpha pinene to the same mixture. When I had my morning wake up coffee, I found this mixture most rewarding. A very relaxed feeling with a definite elevated mood. I don't think I'd call it energetic but motivational would probably be a more appropriate description. I found myself spontaneously taking care of small chores that I would have normally passed up.
I think this is probably going to be a good mixture for dealing with depression and anxiety.
In summation, I'll give Terpene isolates a definite two big thumbs up albeit potentially a little confusing with all the options available. There's a company that's marketing premixed solutions to mimic specific strains. Possibly a better option for some but at $25 per 2ml that works out to $375 per ounce as compared to $11-20 per ounce for individual profiles.
I've since gotten over my stinginess and ordered four different strain mimicking blends at exponentially higher prices. Should be in today and I'll give updates as reapsearch evolves.
BCDD
It might also be a way to return terpenes to extractions that lose them, for example due to heat, or to augment for strains (how long can we keep this word going?) not available or not grown.This is great info BCDD thank you very much.
It would be awesome if you & Sue get together and start a thread on Terpene isolates with the different ways the terpenes interact with different Concentrates or strains (yes Sue, I still like the word strain) lol.
It seems to me that this is a great way to individualize doses for different illnesses.
It might also be a way to return terpenes to extractions that lose them, for example due to heat, or to augment for strains (how long can we keep this word going?) not available or not grown.
Cheers from the darkside
This is great info BCDD thank you very much.
It would be awesome if you & Sue get together and start a thread on Terpene isolates with the different ways the terpenes interact with different Concentrates or strains (yes Sue, I still like the word strain) lol.
It seems to me that this is a great way to individualize doses for different illnesses.
This is where I hope we will be in a few months. Max extraction + custom terpenes added back in. Yep, whoever said it, custom meds. Fractional distillation in a home setting is a stretch so we will be buying them. But still, custom blends with as much under our control as possible....how cool is that??/
Thanx CCOiler. I think terpene additives are going to be a huge wave of the near future and perhaps a dedicated thread may be something of interest to enough members to make it worthwhile exploring.
Kind of a dream come true!?!
My order arrived this afternoon. I have four strain related blends mimicking Pineapple Express, Durban Poison, O.G. Tahoe, and O.G. Dogwalker. Durban Poison in a Blue Dream tincture is going to be my first test platform. After adding the terpenes to an oil or alcohol tincture, its recommended to let it rest for 24-48 hrs to allow for complete dispersion. Morning coffee time is going to mark about 18 hrs and that's gonna have to do!
Stay tuned.
It is starting to act like oil.
Near dry
It is hard to tell but there is a grove in the glass near the edge. To the left, the milky white is about three drops of water. If you are making caps you want to make sure that all of it is gone before filling caps.
This is 1.5g of what was extracted. I have not collected all of it yet, so I don't have a final weight yet. It looks rough here. It is not. It is frozen and somewhat crystallized from scraping it up.
This is the same oil.
This what is left.
The oil is very sappy and hard to work with, even frozen. It seriously sticks to everything. I put some shrink wrap over what is still in the dish and returned it to the freezer for a day or two. It should harden some.
It has a very acetic pine taste. It also has a slow to come on burn like chilies that can be felt on the back of your tong an hour later from licking your fingers.
I will probably think of more to add latter but for now,
I never know.
Thanks BCDD
Do they have a breakout of what is in the mixtures? Take some product pictures if you can.
Pinene and Limonene are two of the terpenes that, while prominent in cannabis, they are so common in many plants that I thought most of the benefits would be common knowledge by now. I am rethinking
This is some numbers from two tests I had run early last year. The seeds were small. I planted two seeds. They probably should have not been sold. Both seeds took their time breaking ground. The dwarf took more than a week extra. The plants had a look that was unique. The symmetry was amassing. It reminded me of a Norfolk Island Pine. They had to be the same strain.
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[TD][/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]Dwarf Ghost Train[/TD]
[TD]Ghost Train 2[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]%[/TD]
[TD]Mg/g[/TD]
[TD]%[/TD]
[TD]Mg/g[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Linalool[/TD]
[TD]0.015[/TD]
[TD]0.15[/TD]
[TD]0.042[/TD]
[TD]0.42[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Humulene[/TD]
[TD]0.075[/TD]
[TD]0.75[/TD]
[TD]0.076[/TD]
[TD]0.76[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]a-Pinene[/TD]
[TD]0.1[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]0.07[/TD]
[TD]0.7[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]B-Myrcene[/TD]
[TD]0.21[/TD]
[TD]2.1[/TD]
[TD]0.25[/TD]
[TD]2.5[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD] Caryophyllene[/TD]
[TD]0.23[/TD]
[TD]2.3[/TD]
[TD]0.24[/TD]
[TD]2.4[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]D-Limonene[/TD]
[TD]0.24[/TD]
[TD]2.4[/TD]
[TD]0.6[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Terpinolene[/TD]
[TD]0.63[/TD]
[TD]6.3[/TD]
[TD]0.0074[/TD]
[TD]0.074[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
Both plants had complex highs. However, the dwarf was the better of the two.
D-Limonene is high in both plants, but Ghost 2 has twice as much. Terpinolene is nearly nonexistent in Ghost 2. Linalool in the dwarf is about 30% of the ‘normal’ plant.
Originally I wanted to find out if there would be differences in the terpene profiles from the same bag of seeds, maybe identify something that would cause the size difference in the plants. I did not expect anything this radical. Both tests showed rather high total terpene content at 1.50% and 1.55%. Both plants had rather low THC content. The dwarf was 17.6% and the normal girl was only 15.3%
The originally Ghost Train was clone only and I had some in California when it was rather new. Wow, it was good. It was everything I like about these two plants only with a THC content of 25+%. What I have is not one hit pot but the high is outstanding. Neither of these plants are really worth growing because the yield near nothing for the dwarf and poor for the other. I did not reclone the normal one but I have a clone of the dwarf that is about 14 months old with a trunk about the size of a pencil. It is actually starting to show some signs of vigor.
The Dwarf test is a basic test. I was tight for funds that day. I have an extended test on Ghost 2.
This is the terpenes found in Ghost 2, sorted smallest to largest. B-Pinene is the 4th largest content in Ghost 2 but was not tested on the Dwarf. If Dwarf ever gets large enough to flower I will get a terp test on it.
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[TD][/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]Dwerf Ghost Train[/TD]
[TD]Ghost Train 2[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]%[/TD]
[TD]Mg/g[/TD]
[TD]%[/TD]
[TD]Mg/g[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]trans-B- Ocimene[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]0.0039[/TD]
[TD]0.039[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]B-Ocimene[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]0.0054[/TD]
[TD]0.054[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Fenchone[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]0.0062[/TD]
[TD]0.062[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Terpinolene[/TD]
[TD]0.63[/TD]
[TD]6.3[/TD]
[TD]0.0074[/TD]
[TD]0.074[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Borneol[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]0.0113[/TD]
[TD]0.113[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Camphene[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]0.021[/TD]
[TD]0.21[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]trans-Nerolidol[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]0.021[/TD]
[TD]0.21[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Linalool[/TD]
[TD]0.015[/TD]
[TD]0.15[/TD]
[TD]0.042[/TD]
[TD]0.42[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Fenchol[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]0.044[/TD]
[TD]0.44[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]a-Terpineol[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]0.044[/TD]
[TD]0.44[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]a-Pinene[/TD]
[TD]0.1[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]0.07[/TD]
[TD]0.7[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Humulene[/TD]
[TD]0.075[/TD]
[TD]0.75[/TD]
[TD]0.076[/TD]
[TD]0.76[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]B-pinene[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]0.107[/TD]
[TD]1.07[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD] Caryophyllene[/TD]
[TD]0.23[/TD]
[TD]2.3[/TD]
[TD]0.24[/TD]
[TD]2.4[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]B-Myrcene[/TD]
[TD]0.21[/TD]
[TD]2.1[/TD]
[TD]0.25[/TD]
[TD]2.5[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]D-Limonene[/TD]
[TD]0.24[/TD]
[TD]2.4[/TD]
[TD]0.6[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
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