Curious' Monster Cropped Northern Lights Clones, Originally From 00Seeds

[Curiousnoob]

Welcome to the seventh grow and the sixth journal of Curious' down under gardening adventures. After taking a little break and recently completing a trial run in a new setup with six feminised Northern Lights seeds from 00seeds (seedsman), two distinct phenos were chosen. One pheno leaned toward the indica side with a pine terpene profile, larger, more solid flowers. (Mum)

The other pheno was more sativa, berry like terpene profile not as large a flower, but much more trichome development. (Mum)

The clones were taken in about the third week of flower as there was no room at the time to take them earlier, thus making them "monster cropped" clones.

(Re-vegging clone)

This journal will consist of six of the Indica type phenos in the 5 x 9 and two of the sativa like phenos in a 2 x 4.
Specs:
Strain: Northern Lights, OO seeds.
Vege/flower: Currently in vege
THC content: 19%
Height: Small-medium 80cm-120cm.
Flowering Time: 8wks.
Yield: 400-500g/m2
Medium: Coco with 50% perlite.
Potting: 6 x 28litre rocket pots/air pots, feed rings to one 200L resovoir and run to waste system.
Tent: Gorilla Grow tent (GGT) 5 X 9
Lighting: 2 x Lumatek 600w/240v digital and 2 X Lumatek 600w/400v digital ballasts running 2xMH/2xHPS globes for vege and 4xHPS in flower, plus a SF2000.
Running through 4 x 150mm cool tubes.
Exhaust: Max fan pro 200, 2 speed, pulling through can-lite 8" carbon filter,
Intake: 150mm max fan pro pulling fresh air from outside.

Specs for 2 x 4
Strain: (Same as above)
Medium: Coco/Perlite 50%
Potting: 2 x 18L rocket/air pots, feed rings to 100L res with run to waste system.
Tent: Homemade cupboard from a level adjusting shelf.
Lighting: 1 x 400w MH for vege 18/6, 1 x 400w HPS for flower12/12.
Exhaust: max fan 150 through can lite 6" carbon filter.
Intake: 1 x 150mm cultiv8 drawing external air from outside in. Plus a seahawk clip fan for circulation.

Anyways that's pretty much the run down, If you wanna chime in any advice or guidance along the way would be appreciated even if you just stop in to say hi would be pretty cool, Cheers!

 

[Curiousnoob]

The vege cycle will be an approximate time as it is hard to tell with monster cropped clones. But going to call this the first week of vege, as they have all pretty much recovered from re-vegging.

The 5 x 9 just received there first round of training, which consisted of pulling the tops over to let o the branches catch up, ideally trying to create a level canopy.

Training: At this stage only LST will be used on the clones in both areas unless it gets out of hand then maybe some HST like super cropping will be used. The idea is to get them through vege to flower as quick as possible without slowing them down at all.

It's incredible to see how much bushier monster cropped clones are compared to a plant from seed.

 

[Curiousnoob]

Nutrients: Through the majority of this grow BAC products will be used as this is what I received in my starter kit and it has been continued on for the only reason that if it ain't broke don't fix it. There are a couple other products that will be used like silica, Ryzo, THC Eksit, Cal/Mag.

At this stage everything has been hand watered with a basic a&b, vege c, silica and ryzo to an EC of 0.6-0.8 and a PH5.2-5.5. Today everyone will be hand watered with BAC Uwaroo which is specifically designed for root grow and health, used only three times during the vege cycle.

 

[r0am1ng st0ner]

Very nice setup and plants looks great

 

[Curiousnoob]

Very nice setup and plants looks great

Hey mate, thanks for stopping by! Cheers, they have rebounded better then expected. After having a 5x5 it is working well especially with the space can do pretty much everything inside it dry, trim, without the concerns of upsetting the neighbors, lol. Still pretty sure I'm getting a couple funny looks

 

[Gazza308]

Awesome setup mate, they goi g to have a real good life

 

[r0am1ng st0ner]

Hey mate, thanks for stopping by! Cheers, they have rebounded better then expected. After having a 5x5 it is working well especially with the space can do pretty much everything inside it dry, trim, without the concerns of upsetting the neighbors, lol. Still pretty sure I'm getting a couple funny looks

Why were your neighbors upset? you have the carbon scrubber even lol. I probably get funny looks cause I don't use the carbon and when in deep flower it smells like a skunk farm is nearby

 

[Curiousnoob]

Why were your neighbors upset? you have the carbon scrubber even lol. I probably get funny looks cause I don't use the carbon and when in deep flower it smells like a skunk farm is nearby

Im probably just being a little paranoid, but yeah those last couple of weeks are umm hard to hide . I ah even have a carbon scrubber setup out side the tent, overkill you reckon hahaha. Better safe then sorry me reckons.

 

[Curiousnoob]

Awesome setup mate, they goi g to have a real good life

Thanks mate, yeah they are kinda spoilt. Thanks for dropping in! I'm quite interested in the workings of DWC seems like alot less mess. Will pop in and check your journal out.

 

[Gazza308]

Yeah tar mate, I’m new to the hydro world but having fun none the less.

I do love my outdoor gardening too.

 

[Curiousnoob]

Yeah tar mate, I’m new to the hydro world but having fun none the less.

I do love my outdoor gardening too.

Holy Jeebus!! Reckon you can fit anymore under there . I would love a shot at an outdoor grow, see what monsters could be produced I think a blue dream would be a pretty cool challenge what strain is she?

 

[Curiousnoob]

IPM: From previous experiences the old phrase "Prevention is better than cure" is so very true when gardening indoors. I have been plagued with infestations of fungus gnats and picking them out of the flower is no fun at all. So for my pest management and apart from the yellow sticky traps (which are a must by the way), every second week and up until the second week of flower I will be hand watering in Gnatural ,

This product has been great in previous grows and kept the garden free from gnat infestations. I find also having a good amount of air movement around the pots helps stop the gnats settling in.
Also in the IPM regime will be Kryptomite,

This will be used twice in vege an once in week two or three of flower depending on flower development, as a foliar spray with some added neem oil aswell as some BAC pro active for support.

 

[Gazza308]

That was a northern lights x orient express

 

[DoYouRight]

Northern Lights is my favorite Strain! Haven't had any for about 20 Years, damn I would love to hit on that Girl!!! Beautiful Plants! Keep up the great work and nice setup too!!

 

[Curiousnoob]

Northern Lights is my favorite Strain! Haven't had any for about 20 Years, damn I would love to hit on that Girl!!! Beautiful Plants! Keep up the great work and nice setup too!!

thanks DYR, I just finished first two weeks of the cure and had the first try of her on the weekend was holding off as I knew she was something special and oh man honestly atm I would have to agree with you. Only done and tried half a dozen strains myself and whatever bags I have purchased but before this strawberry cough was the no. 1. Now it's the berry pheno of the NL and yeah sooo smooth wasn't rattled for the first 15mins. From the get go a nice relaxing, comfortable feel good high, sooo happy the way she turned out wonder if the pine pheno is similar... thanks for stopping in!

 

[Curiousnoob]

Today had some time to get into 2 x 4 and do a little training, trying to keep them as low as possible as the top has the carbon filter and standard reflector with 400wMH globe atm, which doesn't leave alot of room but enough to hopefully pull an elbow out of her (hopefully).
Before

Still hand feeding every second day atm and they seem to be responding really well tips are just starting to yellow so they are sitting close to their limit of nutrients, currently sitting at an EC0.8 & PH5.5. I have a terrible habbit of over watering which can lead to root rot and fungus gnats. It is so easy to over fertigate when you have an automatic fertigating system so holding off using it as long as possible. Will continue to do so for a couple more days until the training stops being able to hand water around them with all the tie downs.
After

 

[Curiousnoob]

These girls have such vigour, about three hours later and they have made a full recovery.
2x4

In both areas CO2 exhale bags are being used, 2 x co2 bags in the 2x4 (used in the 5x9 previous trial run) and two new CO2 bags in the 5x9.

Both bags on either end of the tent, behind the fans which hopefully direct the co2 into the middle where the intake comes in, then and blown around by two oscillating fans in opposite corners above the fans
5x9

Or maybe I should have fans in the centre with the intake pushing air and co2 to either ends any recommendations?

Trimmed off some vege around the bottom, stuff that was touching coco, help prevent any mold growing.
Before

After

Trained a couple other branches to help keep canopy even and let other branches come up.

They were all starting to seem lighter in colour like they were not getting enough nutrients so after finishing up, a foliar spray of BAC Pro Active 5ml/500mL, PH5.8 was applied half an hour before lights out. I have read mixed reviews on when to foliar spray. Some read right before lights on or just before lights out. Apparently the stomata open up 15mins after lights out and before lights on is this correct? I also have sufficient air movement so they are not sitting in a cold wet environment through lights out.

 

[Curiousnoob]

Noticed in the 5x9 while I was setting up the auto feed system that the clones are starting to lighten around the leaf veins and a couple spots aswell.

Thinking maybe start of lockout? Only thing I have done was hand water a feed that was up at EC1.0 which is probably a little high in vege?

 

[DoYouRight]

Welcome to the seventh grow and the sixth journal of Curious' down under gardening adventures. After taking a little break and recently completing a trial run in a new setup with six feminised Northern Lights seeds from 00seeds (seedsman), two distinct phenos were chosen. One pheno leaned toward the indica side with a pine terpene profile, larger, more solid flowers. (Mum)

The other pheno was more sativa, berry like terpene profile not as large a flower, but much more trichome development. (Mum)

The clones were taken in about the third week of flower as there was no room at the time to take them earlier, thus making them "monster cropped" clones.

(Re-vegging clone)

This journal will consist of six of the Indica type phenos in the 5 x 9 and two of the sativa like phenos in a 2 x 4.
Specs:
Strain: Northern Lights, OO seeds.
Vege/flower: Currently in vege
THC content: 19%
Height: Small-medium 80cm-120cm.
Flowering Time: 8wks.
Yield: 400-500g/m2
Medium: Coco with 50% perlite.
Potting: 6 x 28litre rocket pots/air pots, feed rings to one 200L resovoir and run to waste system.
Tent: Gorilla Grow tent (GGT) 5 X 9
Lighting: 2 x Lumatek 600w/240v digital and 2 X Lumatek 600w/400v digital ballasts running 2xMH/2xHPS globes for vege and 4xHPS in flower, plus a SF2000.
Running through 4 x 150mm cool tubes.
Exhaust: Max fan pro 200, 2 speed, pulling through can-lite 8" carbon filter,
Intake: 150mm max fan pro pulling fresh air from outside.

Specs for 2 x 4
Strain: (Same as above)
Medium: Coco/Perlite 50%
Potting: 2 x 18L rocket/air pots, feed rings to 100L res with run to waste system.
Tent: Homemade cupboard from a level adjusting shelf.
Lighting: 1 x 400w MH for vege 18/6, 1 x 400w HPS for flower12/12.
Exhaust: max fan 150 through can lite 6" carbon filter.
Intake: 1 x 150mm cultiv8 drawing external air from outside in. Plus a seahawk clip fan for circulation.

Anyways that's pretty much the run down, If you wanna chime in any advice or guidance along the way would be appreciated even if you just stop in to say hi would be pretty cool, Cheers!

You are growing the Strain that I Love more than any! Please Share!!! Lol!! Seriously though, damn those buds are gorgeous my friend!!

 

[Curiousnoob]

You are growing the Strain that I Love more than any! Please Share!!! Lol!! Seriously though, damn those buds are gorgeous my friend!!

Thank you my man! Honestly after the way they turned out I couldn't not clone them and have another go at the two very distinct phenos that I got. My plan is to pop six or so seeds of the same genetics, clone the best one or two phenos, run those clones, than repeat the process pop some more beans. There are just sooo many different strains to try and not enough time to try them all. I can really see why so many people love the Northern lights strain! Such a joy to smoke, really calming and relaxing, feel good high not to strong, but strong enough to get you where you need to be. if that makes sense, lol.