Colloidal Silver: How strong is too strong?

Remystemple

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I have 4 mother plants that i've decided to flip to flower and try get some pollen from them. but there are a lot of options online for choosing colloidal silver. some is 10ppm some is 500ppm. i've read that 30ppm is good, but how strong is too strong?
 
Now i've read that you can't trust the store bought silver and should make your own? i'd rather just buy a bit lol
 
well i went ahead and orderd some 1000ppm colloidal silver from Peaceful Mountain. read one review that he mixed 10ml in a liter of distilled water and got himself some pollen. so I'm gonna try the same.

If i just do one branch per plant to get the pollen, i'm wondering if i'll be able to use the pollen on the rest of the plant to make the seeds.
 
The stuff I’ve made seems to end up between 40- 60 ppm and works fine. It’s dead easy to make.

I’ve heard a couple people say it’s ‘bad’ to self pollinate the same plant, in the same pot, from the branch of it that is treated with CS. Not sure if that’s just stoner lore or there’s a reason for it. To me I wouldn’t think there would be a difference between the plant pollinating a different branch of itself or an identical clone of itself. But I don’t know for sure.
 
The stuff I’ve made seems to end up between 40- 60 ppm and works fine. It’s dead easy to make.

I’ve heard a couple people say it’s ‘bad’ to self pollinate the same plant, in the same pot, from the branch of it that is treated with CS. Not sure if that’s just stoner lore or there’s a reason for it. To me I wouldn’t think there would be a difference between the plant pollinating a different branch of itself or an identical clone of itself. But I don’t know for sure.

oh that's good info, thanks. just to be safe maybe i'll do 2 separate runs. i'm excited to try this. I have 4 female photo mamas. a white widow and blue rhino that i love very much, a blueberry and a critical kush. the CK is the reason i want seeds rather than clones now. I got 3 seeds from barney's and sprouted one, and she's just beautiful and grew so fast.
 
...I attempted this process this past spring, using bought CS...I diluted down to approximately 70 PPM, which seem to be in line with research I did...I sprayed 3 branches twice a day for 1 week, then once a day for another week...I was unsuccessful...:(...I will try again next spring, but using STS instead of CS...seem's positive results are more consistent using the STS...Good Luck with your endeavor...:thumb:...cheerz...:high-five:...h00k...:hookah:...
 
I have tried it with success two times and failed on my first time. The first time was with a commercial product that was gifted to me and since I didn't have very much of it, I am sure I was way too sparing with the applications.
Then I made my own. The first time I measured it to be around 50 ppm and the second time I just winged it and got it to about the same density as the last time as determined visually by shining a laser through it.
Both times worked, and I was totally maniacal and ruthless in its application each time. The plants never had a chance to be normal.
 
I was unsuccessful...:(

Unsuccessful because you didn’t get a bunch of ‘male’ flowers, or because the flowers created didn't seem to produce viable pollen?
I’ve definitely had the second issue sometimes - and don’t know why.
 
Unsuccessful because you didn’t get a bunch of ‘male’ flowers, or because they flowers created didn't seem to produce viable pollen?
I’ve definitely had the second issue sometimes - and don’t know why.

crazy, i didn't realize it wasn't just cut n' dry. thinking i'll take clones and spray them instead in case it doesn't work out. I might do a journal when the time comes.
 
Unsuccessful because you didn’t get a bunch of ‘male’ flowers, or because they flowers created didn't seem to produce viable pollen?
I’ve definitely had the second issue sometimes - and don’t know why.

...no male flowers...nary a one...I've got one seed left of a discontinued strain that I would love to self and keep it going, so I'll try one more time with the STS...cheerz... :high-five: ...h00k...:hookah:...
 
I’m trying the CS again with a couple plants right now.

One is a P Chunk I’ve been re-cloning for almost five years and I think has lost its vigour. I’m curious if self-seeding it could give me a fresh start from seed with the same genetics, or not.

The other is my Chocolope. Since somebody told me they recently lost the breeding stock for that strain.
 
I was just thinking about the mix and match from 4 plants, and if the results would be different based on what was the pollen and what was the bud. like if i used blueberry pollen on the white widow would it be different than if i used the white widow pollen on the blueberry? or pretty much the same thing i wonder.

getting really stoked to get into it now.
 
blueberry pollen on the white widow would it be different than if i used the white widow pollen on the blueberry? or pretty much the same thing

It should be the same thing as either way the cross just contains the genetics of the same two females involved. Whichever way you do it the seeds produced will still have the potential for a little variation in phenotypes and some will show attributes you never saw before in the parent plants.
 
It should be the same thing as either way the cross just contains the genetics of the same two females involved. Whichever way you do it the seeds produced will still have the potential for a little variation in phenotypes and some will show attributes you never saw before in the parent plants.

i just took my cuttings, gonna drop em in some rapid rooters and get a journal going soon. this should be fun. i hope :thumb:
 
Unsuccessful because you didn’t get a bunch of ‘male’ flowers, or because the flowers created didn't seem to produce viable pollen?
I’ve definitely had the second issue sometimes - and don’t know why.

I have had the second issue a couple of times. Still a mystery to me. I am going to try and spray less of the plant this time and use homemade CS. I have been trying to reverse the whole clone.

Yes it is fine to pollinate the same plant in the same pot. My new plan is to just spray the top of the plant and let the branches receive the pollen.
 
I have had the second issue a couple of times. Still a mystery to me. I am going to try and spray less of the plant this time and use homemade CS. I have been trying to reverse the whole clone.

Yes it is fine to pollinate the same plant in the same pot. My new plan is to just spray the top of the plant and let the branches receive the pollen.
So sometimes the pollen just doesn't work? Weird. I read to only spray the branch stem and not the leaves do you know if that's true?
 
I am going to try and spray less of the plant this time and use homemade CS.

Yes it is fine to pollinate the same plant in the same pot. My new plan is to just spray the top of the plant and let the branches receive the pollen.


I read to only spray the branch stem and not the leaves do you know if that's true?

In the past I’ve just sprayed the last three or four inches of a branch tip, leaves and all. The silver is absorbed by the plant amd travels through the system a little. Flowers will appear all along the branch, well down from the part you sprayed.

It takes time for the effects to be shown, but the silver is absorbed into that part of the plant and the effects continue to develop long after you stop spraying.

I’m wondering if my mistake the last times was to keep spraying after flowers started to appear. I got a ton of flowers but no seeds.
This time I’m spraying in veg for a couple weeks, then will flip to flowering and stop spraying as soon as I see any flowers or the funky look that precedes them. .

I don’t know,... the first couple times I did it I didn’t think about any of this stuff and I got lots of seeds.
 
here's a bit of what i was reading. copy and pasted from Royal Queens.
I'll be following this guide i do believe.



Be sure the strength is at least 15ppm, preferably 30ppm. Less than 15ppm produces male sacs with little viable pollen.

There is no need for any vegetation time once a clone is well-rooted. Simply pot the clone into a small pot, give it a day or two to recover, and begin a 12-12 light cycle right away. A pollen-producing plant only needs to be small as cannabis produces copious amounts of pollen.

Plants can be induced to grow male sex organs as late as four weeks into flowering. Though spraying one week prior to the light changeover is recommended for clones. If a plant grown from seed is being used, wait until the plant has sexed before spraying so you can be sure it is female.

Spray the plants to be feminized with colloidal silver every day, and three times a day if you can manage. Soak them well. Do this for two weeks, then leave the plants to grow as normal. Some growers report getting results after spraying for only 5–10 days.

When sexing begins, male pollen sacs will develop instead of female calyxes and pistils. Male plants mature much faster than females, and viable pollen can be expected within 3–4 weeks once the plant has been sexed. Some growers will spray until the plant shows sexual growth, just to be sure the method has worked. Make sure these plants are well-isolated from any flowering females. A burst pod can release millions of pollen spores, and it only takes one spore per hair to create a seed.
 
Stoner info gets copied and pasted willy-nilly on all these blogs and I take them all with many a grain of salt. But true or false I’m glad you’re following this schedule - can at least report back whether it worked for you or not.

This time around I’m only spraying once a day at most. Sometimes once in every three or four days when I’m away. Should be a goodly amount of silver in those leaves to get absorbed. But we shall see....
 
So sometimes the pollen just doesn't work? Weird. I read to only spray the branch stem and not the leaves do you know if that's true?

I have not heard that. I spray leaves and all. That may have come from all the damage it does to leaves. I know my mentor does leaves and all. Most all his seeds do fine.

He has had one strain.It made perfect seeds with nothing in them. None of them LOL. They were just a empty shell.
 
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