Seedlings don't like the ocean forest because of the high nute levels in the soil. Might be best to start with a seedling soil with no nutes then transplant into the OF once you establish a vegging small plant instead of a sprout. This is the info I have deducted from watching other members' grow ops. I grow hydroponicly all the time, its my prefered way of growing but they say soil is easier and more natural.