California Marijuana Measure Set for 2010 Vote, Supporters Say

Jim Finnel

Fallen Cannabis Warrior & Ex News Moderator
A ballot initiative to legalize recreational marijuana use in California has received enough signatures to place it before voters next year, organizers said.

The “Tax, Regulate and Control Cannabis Act of 2010” has garnered 680,000 signatures, more than the 433,971 required to be placed on the state’s ballot, said Salwa Ibrahim, a spokeswoman for the measure’s sponsor, Oaksterdam University in Oakland, which bills itself as “America’s first cannabis college.”

“We’re going to keep collecting signatures until we have to turn it in,” before the February deadline, Ibrahim said in an interview today. “They’re from all over the state of California.”

The measure, which must be certified by the secretary of state before it can officially be placed on the ballot, would allow adults 21 and older to possess an ounce of marijuana and cultivate 25 square feet (2.3 square meters) for personal consumption, Ibrahim said. Cities and counties can decide how and if to tax commercial sales and cultivation.

“So for instance, in a Danville or Alamo, if they’re like, ‘Oh my gosh, we do not want dispensaries or any of that in our communities,’ that’s fine, they don’t have to have it,” she said. “But a place like Oakland, where we desperately need the revenue, it would be a perfect fit.”

A Field Poll conducted in April showed that 56 percent of registered voters in California supported legalizing and taxing marijuana.

Health Reasons

California is one of 14 states allowing some marijuana use for health reasons, according to the U.S. Justice Department. Oakland voters this year approved a measure making their city the first in the U.S. to tax it.

In October, the state assembly’s Public Safety Commission discussed the social, fiscal and legal implications of legalizing and regulating the drug like alcohol. It was the first time the issue had been considered by the Legislature since the ban on marijuana use went into effect in 1913.

California Assemblyman Tom Ammiano introduced a separate marijuana legalization bill in February, that, if passed, would add $1.34 billion to California’s annual revenue based on sales tax and a $50-an-ounce excise levy, according to the state’s tax administrator, the Board of Equalization. The bill will have its first policy hearing in January.

Obama’s Policy

Nationally, President Barack Obama’s Justice Department told federal prosecutors on Oct. 19 not to seek criminal charges against those who use or supply the drug for medical purposes in accordance with state laws, reversing the previous Bush administration approach.

The federal guidelines don’t legalize marijuana. The Justice Department will focus its resources on “serious drug traffickers while taking into account state and local laws,” Attorney General Eric Holder said in a statement.

The Bush administration had said it would pursue charges in medical marijuana cases, even in those states.

Marijuana, produced from the cannabis plant, can be smoked or ingested. Its recreational use is illegal in the U.S.

The signatures collected will be sent to county election officials to count and verify, according to the Secretary of State’s Office. The measure would then be certified and placed on the ballot.


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So can anyone tell me how this will effect medical grows, commercial grows and dispensories????

It just seems so veg and could land you in jail by the feds as everyone would assume this is a free for all.
 
So can anyone tell me how this will effect medical grows, commercial grows and dispensories????

It just seems so veg and could land you in jail by the feds as everyone would assume this is a free for all.

Yes it is a "free for all". California has always been a progressive state.

Yes it would still be subject to Federal prosecution, but as O'Bama has gone on the record, the govt will not be expending the resources to prosecute. However, should the state and the voters decide to open this up, this wide, could set a course for a new policy directive and I'm sure some federal challenges in court.

As it's stated above;
would allow adults 21 and older to possess an ounce of marijuana and cultivate 25 square feet (2.3 square meters) for personal consumption, Ibrahim said. Cities and counties can decide how and if to tax commercial sales and cultivation.

It would allow any citizen in California the right to possess up to an ounce, and the right to cultivate in a size of up-to 25 sq feet. I don't think it would really have an effect on medicinal purposes, but everyone wouldn't need a medical card.

Basically this proposed ballot initiative is the De-Criminalization of Pot possession. Way overdue, imo, in this era of Alcohol we live in. Think Amsterdam in California. I would venture to say a measure like this would lift California's economy significantly.

S.F.
 
What would be the tax on the sales... is it still the 50.00/ounce???? Also would they provide a license for commercial growing. Alot of things are really vague... I like the Armino one better... well I believe that is his name. Forgive me if I got his name wrong.
 
If this passes Im gonna move there! Hazzah!
 
So can anyone tell me how this will effect medical grows, commercial grows and dispensories????

It just seems so veg and could land you in jail by the feds as everyone would assume this is a free for all.

This could, in a way, effect the medical marijuana industry. This specific initiative was promoted (possibly written by) a guy who runs a dispensory. I would think some med places would transition over to sell to everyone.
 
This could, in a way, effect the medical marijuana industry. This specific initiative was promoted (possibly written by) a guy who runs a dispensory. I would think some med places would transition over to sell to everyone.

You see this measure is really tough as it only helps those that are already established in cities with ordinances... but most of the cities are outright banning places... their excuse... it is against federal law!

I do not know if mixing medical with recreational would be good. Will have to wait and see. Lots of possibilities.
 
Hey Guys.

Basically there wouldn't need to be any medical mj laws to go by, should this ballot initiative become law.

As it states:

Allows, adults 21 and older to possess an ounce of marijuana and cultivate 25 square feet (2.3 square meters) for personal consumption, Ibrahim said. Cities and counties can decide how and if to tax commercial sales and cultivation.

Should this pass, ANYONE over 21 can possess and grow their own stash! I'm sure there will still be the medical laws on the books, and caregivers can still grow for their patients, but this IS a decriminalization law!

Yes you can be sure they will find a way to levy taxes, but that's a small price to pay. What's the tax on Alcohol consumption, 18-20%?

What will be interesting is if the California voters decide to pass such a proposed law!

...Waiting patiently!

S.F.
 
According to the Los Angeles City counsel the city brings in over 75 million in tax on medical cannabis. This comes from about 514 collectives not 900 - 1000. People are saying that there are that many opereating but they are wrong. The state, counties and cities could put the tax dollars to community use such as schools, public works and many other projects and just think of the money that would be saved in useless drug enforcement. This really needs to be defined but it could be a good thing for all. Lets see what happens.:peace:
 
Hey Guys.

Basically there wouldn't need to be any medical mj laws to go by, should this ballot initiative become law.

As it states:



Should this pass, ANYONE over 21 can possess and grow their own stash! I'm sure there will still be the medical laws on the books, and caregivers can still grow for their patients, but this IS a decriminalization law!

Yes you can be sure they will find a way to levy taxes, but that's a small price to pay. What's the tax on Alcohol consumption, 18-20%?

What will be interesting is if the California voters decide to pass such a proposed law!

...Waiting patiently!

S.F.


No what you do not understand is that growers will be breaking the law. Most growers that provide for dispenseries grow way more than a 25 sqft. canopy.
 
No, I understand.

Just because one law is "on the books" doesn't mean that another proposed law such as this, would replace that one.

I don't think anyone is proposing to change the medicinal laws. This would just make it so it's not a crime for anyone else to grow there own hooch. The "caregivers" would still remain under the protection of California laws, that have already been established.

It will be good for medical users as well as casual users without fear of government reprisal.

Should be good for everyone! Time will tell!
 
No, I understand.

Just because one law is "on the books" doesn't mean that another proposed law such as this, would replace that one.

I don't think anyone is proposing to change the medicinal laws. This would just make it so it's not a crime for anyone else to grow there own hooch. The "caregivers" would still remain under the protection of California laws, that have already been established.

It will be good for medical users as well as casual users without fear of government reprisal.

Should be good for everyone! Time will tell!


Sounds great... hope it all settles down. I just frear for those who think it is a total free for all... the feds do not care. They will bust you if you get to big in the britches. But what I like... is this is the first step in change and it did not come from the man who used that word and did not come through with it... but came from the people!
 
A ballot initiative to legalize recreational marijuana use in California has received enough signatures to place it before voters next year

I'm not 100% sure how the american political state system works (canadian boy). Does this mean that the citizens will vote on it, or law makers?
 
I'm not 100% sure how the american political state system works (canadian boy). Does this mean that the citizens will vote on it, or law makers?

I'm not from California either, but another state. Each state has a little different method for how a "measure" may become law.

This entry from Wikipedia explains it real easy:

In California, a ballot proposition is a proposed law that is submitted to the electorate for approval in a direct vote (or plebiscite). It may take the form of a constitutional amendment or an ordinary statute. A ballot proposition may be proposed by the State Legislature or by a petition signed by members of the public by means of a petition under the initiative system. In California a vote on a measure referred to voters by the legislature is called a referendum. The process of proposing laws by petition is called the initiative.

But to answer your question, straight up, this is a vote that will be put to the people of California, not the legislature.

Hope that helps.
 
YEEEEEEEEE HAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!! :roorrip:
 
I'm not from California either, but another state. Each state has a little different method for how a "measure" may become law.

This entry from Wikipedia explains it real easy:



But to answer your question, straight up, this is a vote that will be put to the people of California, not the legislature.

Hope that helps.

It does very much! Thanks.

So if its up to the people, what are the chances that the state that voted 53% yes for legalization is going to keep it illegal?

legalization 2010!! (I hope)
 
definitely a step in the right direction. if california starts making all this money off marijuana and at the same time is able to show that the sky does not fall when people are allowed to smoke the herb, then other states will be hard pressed not to follow. the obama administration are definitely the people we want in power when this all goes down as the feds could really muck this up if they want to.

what i hate is the incongruity within the initiative itself: 'one ounce and 25 square feet of cultivation.' so what happens when that 25 feet produces a couple of pounds? the initiative sorta sets a person up to break the law.

regardless, it's all good. too many mad reefers in this country. as soon as the US legalizes (which will begin with state by state legalization), the chumps in power will probably demand the rest of the world to follow suit. so i think herb lovers the world over have a stake with what goes down in Kali.
 
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