I have 5 plants that moved outside. One has been outside for a couple of weeks and the other ones moved outside 6 days ago. Yesterday I noticed what I first thought were black spots on the bottom of the leaves. However, when you hold the leaves up to light you'll see that it's not black spots but thin/transparent spots in the leaves. Below are pictures of the same leaf, just one of the pics is me holding the leaf up so light will shine through. Any ideas of what is causing this would be great!
Another leaf issue!
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Most of the spots appear to be alongside leaf veins, so it's probably bugs
Maybe do a prophylactic spray, @Lady Cannafan has a good recipe
Maybe do a prophylactic spray, @Lady Cannafan has a good recipe
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I sprayed them with neem oil when I put them outside but I guess that is not doing the trick....thank you!
SniperX
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Maybe a mild homemade insect soap spray
Maybe a mild homemade insect soap spray
You have a critter problem, looks similar to aphids damage. They suck the juices out of the leaves which causes those spots.
My neem oil mix: 1 tsp neem oil, 1/3 tsp. mild detergent (dawn), and 1 quart of warm water.
I use a fine mist sprayer and keep it shook up for the oil to be dispersed in the liquid, make sure to get the undersides of the leaves where the critters hide, and on the stems.
I just took care of an aphid infestation on one of my outdoor girls and after a good spraying once, then again two days later, they were gone.
Now it will be done once a week, and anytime after a heavy rain.
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I will try it today! I already have neem oil and insecticidal soap. Can I use the insecticidal soap for my detergent?
If it's liquid, As long as it doesn't contain perfumes and other additives, it should not be a problem.
Also, I would like to mention the presence of ants on the stems and leaves of your plants. If you see them, they are not eating your plants, they are likely feeding off the liquid the aphids release. It's like aphid pee, but it is considered a sweet nectar to the ants. If I see ants, I immediately check for aphids. They are tiny, so you might do well with a magnifier to look for them.
Just occurred to me to be sure that you aren't using the antibacterial stuff with alcohol in it. Just a mild detergent is fine.
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I sprayed all my plants with neem oil the day they moved outside. Tomorrow they will have been outside for a week. Maybe I didn't make the solution strong enough.
It's possible.
I also wanted to mention that Thrips do similar damage to leaves, and I use the same neem oil concoction to control those as well.
Thrips, for a lack of better visual, look like seriously tiny little grains of rice. Almost like specs of elongated white dust particles.
Aphids are tiny as well, but are more football shaped and often have a translucency to them. They are commonly a greenish yellow color.
Type in each one to google images and familiarize yourself with them.
This is a photo of one of my aphid infestations on my grape leaves last year with the ants consuming the bubble of nectar from them. These were a darker color than I usually see here. As you can see some of the adults will grow wings to take them to fresh food sources.
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I need to get a magnifying glass. One of my plants have already been getting sprayed and wiped every 3 days because of a spider mite problem. I have been closely monitoring all of my plants to make sure the mites haven't spread and I haven't seen anything on my plants.It's possible.
I also wanted to mention that Thrips do similar damage to leaves, and I use the same neem oil concoction to control those as well.
Thrips, for a lack of better visual, look like seriously tiny little grains of rice. Almost like specs of elongated white dust particles.
Aphids are tiny as well, but are more football shaped and often have a translucency to them. They are commonly a greenish yellow color.
Type in each one to google images and familiarize yourself with them.
This is a photo of one of my aphid infestations on my grape leaves last year with the ants consuming the bubble of nectar from them. These were a darker color than I usually see here. As you can see some of the adults will grow wings to take them to fresh food sources.
That picture is both brilliant and horrific Lady CIt's possible.
I also wanted to mention that Thrips do similar damage to leaves, and I use the same neem oil concoction to control those as well.
Thrips, for a lack of better visual, look like seriously tiny little grains of rice. Almost like specs of elongated white dust particles.
Aphids are tiny as well, but are more football shaped and often have a translucency to them. They are commonly a greenish yellow color.
Type in each one to google images and familiarize yourself with them.
This is a photo of one of my aphid infestations on my grape leaves last year with the ants consuming the bubble of nectar from them. These were a darker color than I usually see here. As you can see some of the adults will grow wings to take them to fresh food sources.
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Thank you Roy! You wouldn't believe the series of shots I got of those ants and aphids at war. I was so close with that camera that I got the heebie jeebies.
You wouldn't believe how many hours I spend trying to fiddle with my camera to get a pic right, never worksThank you Roy! You wouldn't believe the series of shots I got of those ants and aphids at war. I was so close with that camera that I got the heebie jeebies.
cbdhemp808
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Hey Lovie,
My go to for all bugs (in veg) is a solution of neem oil. I use 1 TBSP neem oil, 1 TBSP Dr. Bronner's peppermint soap, per 1/2 gal water in the pump sprayer. Shake very well. For extra killing power you can add 10 drops pure food grade orange oil.
happy growing!
My go to for all bugs (in veg) is a solution of neem oil. I use 1 TBSP neem oil, 1 TBSP Dr. Bronner's peppermint soap, per 1/2 gal water in the pump sprayer. Shake very well. For extra killing power you can add 10 drops pure food grade orange oil.
happy growing!
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That is what I keep hearing. I don't know what I am doing wrong. I sprayed them with neem oil when I moved them outside. I believe it was 4 days later I saw those spots. The first time I sprayed them I mixed the solution based on the recommended amount to prevent infestations. After seeing those spots I sprayed again mixing the solution using the amount recommended for an infestation. I sprayed them at dusk. The next evening I had several burned leaves.Hey Lovie,
My go to for all bugs (in veg) is a solution of neem oil. I use 1 TBSP neem oil, 1 TBSP Dr. Bronner's peppermint soap, per 1/2 gal water in the pump sprayer. Shake very well. For extra killing power you can add 10 drops pure food grade orange oil.
happy growing!
cbdhemp808
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My solution never burns leaves. So, it's very important that the ingredients are pure. I use 100% pure neem oil, and Bronner's is all natural and organic. The peppermint in Bronner's is also helpful. I would never dream of spraying Dawn on my plants!
I usually don't spray until I see noticeable damage on my plants, or if I see aphids or an aphid-like bug we have here called a flea hopper. Then I give one treatment. After that I'll wait and see what develops over the next few days, and re-spray if necessary. I use a 1/2 gal or 1 gal pump sprayer, the kind you can get at ACE Hardware.
I usually don't spray until I see noticeable damage on my plants, or if I see aphids or an aphid-like bug we have here called a flea hopper. Then I give one treatment. After that I'll wait and see what develops over the next few days, and re-spray if necessary. I use a 1/2 gal or 1 gal pump sprayer, the kind you can get at ACE Hardware.
