Afgoo - First Time Seed Grow

:thankyou: to BPN my sponsor and to you gitter for the words of encouragement!!! I love that over top shot on Afgoo 2, I didnt get to see this on my White Widow grow because i topped her on her 2nd week flower!! Big mistake!!! but its all good now!!!

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I forgot to say the height of them both!!! Afgoo 1 (LST for those just joining) is now at 2 ft 10 3/4 in.!!! now if you have been following from the beginning, you know that Afgoo 1 was planted about a week before Afgoo 2!!! and Afgoo 1 has just been dominating over Afgoo 2!!! well now the LSTing has shown its effect on her!!! during the LSTing the growth slows down im guessing!!! but now Afgoo 2 is at 3 ft tall!!! its so great!!! now on Afgoo 1, i measured her longest lateral arm, it stands at 1 ft 9 in long!!! now theres 3 at that height, 2 at 1 ft 7 in, and 2 at 1 ft 4in!!! everything else is under a foot!!!

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first i would like to start off this post with a special :happybday: to myself!!! my first birthday spent here with all you fine people!!! so now a special :thankyou: to all of you, keeping my interest here, giving great advice, or asking questions, cus when there is a question that i dont know, i go research it, then i learn as well!!! so again :thankyou: to all and happy growing!!!
 
Hi Astonr,

First off...Happy BD. :cheertwo: You made it another year.

I've been real busy and unable to keep up lately...I haven't even made it to your new journal yet, but I will soon, hopfully today.

Your girls are looking real good. Love those first flowers, they just keep getting better from now on.

About the bugs...You and Debudman have had them, he worse than you, I had them too. I used this stuff called Mighty Wash from NPK ind. I only washed them 3 times @ 3 day intravals. I didn't see any after the second application but I did it a 3rd time just for good measure. And this Mighty Wash stuff has no WARNINGS like the Azamax stuff does. I'd be afraid to use that stuff after reading the precautions...I only got to the first set of warnings in your post when I decided I don't want to use that on something I want to smoke. And I've also read many posts that say the mites will become resistant to it. DBM maybe that's your issue now, they got used to it.

Anyway I had real good results with the Might Wash, no precautions. You know my situation...I had to set these plants up on top of a table to be able to spray all of the leaves, I got this stuff all over myself while spraying my girls...and I do mean all over, in my hair, my mouth (probably should have kept that shut while looking up), all over my arms and hands, no special clean up or clothing required. It says you can use it right up to harvest day too. Just thought I'd give my .02 cents too.

Also I read here somewhere that outside growing should be better for mites because of the natural predators "outside". Maybe that's what happened to your webs that mysteriously disappeared.

Again, Happy BD. I'll be over to your other journal soon as I can.

Happy Growing :circle-of-love:
 
Hey Sqwheels,

It appears that Mighty Wash is a new product.
I reached out on the net and tried to find some details as to what it is made of and couldn't find any details. Do you have a reference to detailed ingredients of this product?

What drew me to Azamax is its reputation.
I have heard that certain types of spider mites do build immunities to certain ingredients. They say in those cases to try to rotate products to help reduce this from happening.

As for toxidity, I was concerned about that as well as I'm sure anyone thinking of using Azamax or any other products on their plants (especially during flowering) would. I was informed that Azamax is 100% food grade and produces no harmful residue on your plants. Now I too was also wondering, if that is the case, why does it post all these alerts all over the bottle. I was told that it is only harmful if absorbed or inhaled directly out of the bottle. I have also heard that it is 100 percent safe after 100 hours (roughly 4-5) days. I would love to have someone here confirm the facts about that. Anyone with serious concerns can call the company directly... The manufacturer is "Parry America Inc." . On a positive note the product is OMRI Listed, which in my experience confirms it is safe. I would be leary about any product that is not.

Now with your showering issue..
I would recommend that you pickup one of those 360 sprayers or similar model that allows you to spray your plant without spraying you. ;) Mine is awesome cause it has a extension and full swivel spray nozzle that allows me to get right under all the leaves and give them a good drenching without getting me. It was one of the best investments I have made. It also atomizes very well, which allows me to cover more territory without wasting the product.


As for natural predators.. Yes, they definitely are helpful to keep a nice balance out in the garden. This is another benefit to Azamax, as it doesn't harm the good insects. Ladybugs is a good example. They can be very helpful in controlling mites. I believe you can even pick them up from many hardware/garden stores.

So far so good.. My plants have minimal damage (knock on wood) and they seem to be looking very healthy. There is one new problem though that I didn't foresee. I planted my plants directly underneath power lines. Who is to think that would be an issue. Well, now I am getting a bunch of bird shit all over my plants. The bastards are sitting on the power line directly above my plants and shitting all over them. When I first seen this it scared the hell out of me cause I thought I had a severe case of powdery mildew. (What else will be next?) :rolleyes3

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Hey DBM,

Wow, bird shit, that sucks...challenges, I guess it doesn't matter how hard we try...inside or out, there's always gonna be something.

Thanks for the added info about the azamax...I do think I heard most of that about the food grade and the ORMI (can't remember what it stands for at the moment) :tokin:

And yes, since I had my mite problems this last grow I have seen a sweeet little nozzle that I plan to get, it sounds like what you're talking about.

Ok, the Mighty Wast bottle only lists two ingredients...get this

water....99.8335% and Inert Ingredients...0.1665%

ready to use..do not dilute..shake well Directions for use: Spray Mighty Wash on fruits, vegies, foliage and flowers. Might Wash may be used on indoor, outdoor and greenhouse plants. It is effective throughout the grow and flower cycle including and up to the day of harvest. Saturate top and bottom of leaves (entire plant) in order to achieve best results. Use Power Wash to wash off any residual left by Might Wash or any other plant sprays (if harvesting). Do not apply in temps above 90 degrees or below 35

Someone at the grow house told me they thought it was ionized water and soap of some kind. I don't know for sure, but it really worked for me. And like I said before...no special clothing required. :) I loved the pic of the guys in hazmat suits. :rofl: :rofl: Cracked me up...seriously.

I hope Astonr doesn't mind us posting in his journal... Hi Astonr, I'm on my over to your other journal as soon as I'm done here, I promise.:circle-of-love:
 
I know..SQWHEELS, The bird shit is the last straw..
Next year I am building a greenhouse for sure. It will have a roof so no bird shit gets in (other than what Aston might throw at us for taking over his journal) hahaha :)

OMRI stands for Organic Mountain of Ritious Indica or something like that :hmmmm:

I'm glad to hear your new Mighty Product is working well for you. That is definitely an added bonus when you don't have to step into the hazmat suit before spraying. :)
Have you tried just water and dawn soap? That seems to work to a milder degree.
I've been using that too.

Well I'm off... Have a good weekend SQWHEELS...
Oh, and you 2 Aston.

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always!!

sqwheels,
I went out and got some Azamax already, and after spraying it on the ladies!! I am convinced that it works well!!! I too read the special precautions, but going against them, I didnt suit up for this!! i didnt wear any special gloves, nor clothing!!!! special clothing i mean!!! lol and it got all over me, my clothes, my arms!!! most of it got on my arms and hands only cus while I was spraying, I was pushing the leaves back and spraying them on the under leaf!!! but so far i have sat outside and just watched different kinds of bugs just come, land, and leave right away!!! they no like the taste or smell of it anymore!!! and no bite marks since!!! no mites since!!! and they are just thriving now!!! beautiful flowers popping out of the tops, and all the little popcorns are developing nicely too!!! as you seen in the recent photos!!! but she has flowered so much more since, I already have to take more snaps!!!

astonr is back to regulate!!! get off my airplane!!! lol sorry i just watched air force one!!!


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I don't go full hazmat like Aston, but I do wear chemical resistant gloves that fit pretty far down my arm. I like them cause when I'm spraying I can move each branch and spray down in between them without getting spray on my skin. I also wear one of those white painter masks. My spray atomizes very well. Last time I sprayed I could see the little atomized particles dispersing all over the air around where I was spraying.
I thought it was wise to wear the mask to at least help prevent breathing them in. While the Azamax product does not seem to be harmful after a short period of time after drying, it does post warnings about breathing and getting on your skin from immediate spray. I believe it is always better to be safe than sorry. Also on the same note, are you going to keep spraying your plant with Azamax Aston? I would recommend a 7 day spray all the way up to harvest at this point. This should ensure no further attacks and allow for a safe completion of your grow. I am going to follow a 7 day interval spraying for sure on mine.

My plants seem to be progressing a long very well as each day goes by. I suppose they should be ready for harvest in the next month or two. Now is the best part and where all the fun comes in of watching your plant develop. During my final stages of flushing I think I will try an ice water flush. I understand it really brings out the true colors of the plant based on its genetics. On my next grow I will start my first journal so I can stop polluting Aston's (Sorry Aston).

Here's another picture of the flowering progression of one of my lady's...
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Debudman said:
I don't go full hazmat like Aston, but I do wear chemical resistant gloves that fit pretty far down my arm. I like them cause when I'm spraying I can move each branch and spray down in between them without getting spray on my skin. I also wear one of those white painter masks. My spray atomizes very well. Last time I sprayed I could see the little atomized particles dispersing all over the air around where I was spraying.
I thought it was wise to wear the mask to at least help prevent breathing them in. While the Azamax product does not seem to be harmful after a short period of time after drying, it does post warnings about breathing and getting on your skin from immediate spray. I believe it is always better to be safe than sorry. Also on the same note, are you going to keep spraying your plant with Azamax Aston? I would recommend a 7 day spray all the way up to harvest at this point. This should ensure no further attacks and allow for a safe completion of your grow. I am going to follow a 7 day interval spraying for sure on mine.

My plants seem to be progressing a long very well as each day goes by. I suppose they should be ready for harvest in the next month or two. Now is the best part and where all the fun comes in of watching your plant develop. During my final stages of flushing I think I will try an ice water flush. I understand it really brings out the true colors of the plant based on its genetics. On my next grow I will start my first journal so I can stop polluting Aston's (Sorry Aston).

Here's another picture of the flowering progression of one of my lady's...
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yes sir!! just got back from the movies with my wifey!!! and got straight to spraying!!! they are covered in Azamax again!!!


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Yeah I hit mine frequent, hard, and heavy for the first 2 weeks. Now I am coasting on a 7 day schedule all the way up until harvest. My plants are surrounded by other plants and some on the opposite side have been found to have mites too... With the Azamax treatments I am hoping it will also repel them and send them elsewhere.

How much Azamax are you using. I'm using 5ml to 32oz of water.
I know they list like (3) strength levels. I believe mine equates to the lower level.

Next year my plan is to build a greenhouse. This way I don't have to plant right up against my fence, which I think causes bugs to jump on over to the plants easier and I will have a much larger planting area to work with. Outside of that it will be more of a controlled environment. I will keep it very basic at first and simple. I am thinking of just using some 2x4's to frame it and go from there. The problem is the cost. All this stuff adds up and with all other responsibilities and everything being so expensive today it makes it tough.

Hope your grow is going well man.. I'm not sure how much longer I have.
What do you think? Maybe another month? Will be glad to be done with this so I can be clear of this mite situation and rest a lot easier :).

:peace: my brotha
 
Well I got a new baby. I brought her home today, she is a White Widow.
I dropped her under a CFL light tonight and will drop her in a 5 gal bucket tomorrow.
I know it is a late start, but want to see what type of yield I can get by sticking her outside and let nature take her course. I was told the White Widows are fast growers.

I am going to get a 32 gallon garbage can tomorrow too so I can have it to store my PH'd water. I never knew that caring for babies can be so much work... :hmmmm:

Also I was researching more into various flushing techniques.
I think the ice water method is a bad idea. I thought about it and it just doesn't seem
right. I think it would shock the plant and do more harm than good. Anyway... I will just flush with nice clean PH water when the time comes.

Hey it's almost 10pm... Going to watch Breaking Bad now :).
I will be back to pollute your journal later...

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LOL whats up debudman,
i think that people do more of the ice water method to try and get the leafs or buds to turn purple!!! i know the colder the climate the leaves will turn purple!!! i watched it in a youtube video where there was a plant near the air conditioner and it turned that side of the plant purple!!! but yea i think that is way to much stress... well see ya later!!!


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What up Aston...
Yeah, I have read about people cooling their grow rooms down to turn the plants purple.
I agree I think it just adds unnecessary stress.

Well I showered my plants again today with Azamax and pulled all the yellow leaves off and stuff. The plants are really starting to flower now. I am starting to see lots of white frost developing (not powdery mildew either) God forbid. :)

I am now heading out to buy a garbage can for my water storage and will pickup (2) 5 gallon plastic planters for my new baby's. Remember the sole survivor clone that I mentioned to you that had survived. Well it is now almost a foot tall. I topped it today. It looks a bit stringy right now, but I am hoping it fills out after I transplant. I will add some nice organic dried blood and some bone meal into the soil amongst a few other things. I will transplant my White Widow too and see how she does.

:peace: My brotha
 
Hey Aston...

Did you ever hear of Reverse Osmosis.
I have been hearing a lot of good things about them.
Someday I think I would like to invest in one of those setups for my garden.
They have adapters that allow you to connect directly to your water hose.
I seen a decent one for about 200 bucks. It was like a 3:1 unit where you have
an inlet, and outlet for your clean filter water and a waste outlet for your waste water.
They seem to waste a pretty good amount of water, but on a positive note they really do a great job of filtering out all the crap that can cause nutrient lockout to your plants.

Maybe I should stop learning about all this stuff cause I keep finding new things to buy.
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Well I rescued my new White Widow baby that I cloned a couple weeks ago. It has been sitting in my dispensories cloning room and had been neglected for a week or so. It is showing some signs of stress, but has a very strong root system and I believe will recover quickly. I also transplanted my sole survivor Blue Dream Sativa clone. I found it was a bit root bound and needed water. I dropped them both into new nice 5 gallon homes and gave them a nice slow soaking. I also picked up my garbage can so I can pretreat my water.

Here is my new White Widow
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Here is my sole survivor Blue Dream Sativa
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Here are the 2 children resting before bed
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Last but not least...my brand new water reservoir (aka garbage can) :)
I know Aston really wanted to see this
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