24-on 12-off light cycle

yea the plants did have 1 week of 24/12 where just messing with hormones in nature they would get lots more light than in a tent during veg caus of the size of the tent and when it starts to flower its not exactly on 12 hours thats just a good reference for most flowers not all but most, according to the is it doctor bugbe its cool temps during flower and beforee harvest ihe recomends the last light cycle to be 24 hours not 24 hours dark as he says they only make trichs during the lights on, during the night they have a chance to evaporate so lower temps may not get the plant to grow bigger but it will make the quality of the trichs better , alsom some can flower as high as 14/10 but they worked out the average was 13.5/10.5 so if oyu have one of these strains it would be best to keep it on 13/10 tom be safe and you should get bigger buds but it will possably take longer to flower , itslike saying when i first start a plant off for 2 weeks growth i can get 25g of plant growth but for a extra 2 weeks in veg you may get an axtra 50g of bud cause its roots are massive for the extra 2 weeks at the end . like the video i posted of the reveged plant he harbested it reveged very quick and because its root system was full developed it had all the food and water it needed and more . dont go on the numbers it was an example 2 weeks i would expect 30g from a plant at least though, so if i had a strain where it receaved 13 hours of light everyday i would go for that strain as it has the potential to grow bigger buds , its like the auto flowers tend to have masive buds but they dont grow as big a plant as a photo peroid they get more light to grow bud. if i went to a 9/15 flower cycle i would be thinking of increasing the dli to give the same dli you would get in a 12 to 13 hour day so it can store the energy and use it during the night . my next run i am going to try going from 18/6 to 12/12 which they are currently in and then after i have harvested this single plant thats in with them i will flip them over to 13/11.

and just to comment i trust we all agree their is enough bro science out there that needs to be gotten rid of , i prefer to be honest so i can gain better understaniding myself and dont see what saying i have done something when i havent will accomplish especially in the goal of becoming a man of integrity i feel their is no need to lie unless your covering something up, and i dont see there any need to cover things up but i do understand not everyone has good intentions where ever you live in this world unfrotunatly , but its better to be up front than have hidden intentions .
so yes i did put them on 24/12 for a week then went back to 12/12 they dont seem to be affected by it as if harvesting a plant then reveging it back again and then getting another harvest from it says to me it could be done in flower too its just hormones. now i do think that the light schedule can only be changed so far untill the point you might as well get autos , but photoperoid minipulated the right way have the poetnetial top gain the same size buds as auto flowers do . or as near as possable .

i grew one auto flower once with photo peroids and it grow just as big but stretched between nodes and the buds where massive huge just not as many as was on the photo peroids , i didnt know it was an auto flower at the time its only after i realised thinking back cause having seen auto flowers in grow journals it looked exactly like one but taller and more spaced out between nodes like 3 to 4 inch space cause it was on a 12/12 cycle ( i also realised the shop had sent me free auto seeds which is why it was planted as i did not realise at the time one side of the packet had the name and the other was labeled autoflower, so thats how it got mistaken and planted with my other seeds i had purchased .

infact the best way i can describe it is it looked like a lollipoped photo peroid massive space betwenn buds but the buds where bigger than a photo peroid by nearly 2x and each branch spread out on its own i did not need to do anything to it at all.
at the moment i grow 4 photo periods but if i could grow 6 autos probably on a 16/8 hour light peroid i could get nearly the same as my 4 photo peroids .

the one thing i know makes a difference is root mass , one thing i have noticed when i tim or fim a plant it gives the roots extra time to grow as it recovers meaning more available nutriants for the plant , so its not just the tim and fim scrog lolipop and such that increases colones its also increasing root size to feed those 2 enlarge colons . i get confused nodes colones , node is the start of astem that grows into a colone from the branch and the colon is the branch and buds coming of the man branch. ?

so fiming and timing also increases root mass and nutrient uptake and like minipulating a light schedule can increase flower time by a few weeks just the same .


the one thing about the 24/12 clone is it died i trimmed the good branches of it, made clones and then i left what was left and it revived and has better roots now which also has increased its bud size slightly now its in with 3 other clones i took from that same plant

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Oh ok bro lmao,so only a week!! Sheesh bro I was over here thinking that plant was at least flowered under 24/12 lolol well then that explains the look the plant has tho. So is the the clone under 24/12 still alive or no? Hard to tell in text ?
 
Oh ok bro lmao,so only a week!! Sheesh bro I was over here thinking that plant was at least flowered under 24/12 lolol well then that explains the look the plant has tho. So is the the clone under 24/12 still alive or no? Hard to tell in text ?
Must have mis read or misunderstood you,that's on me but I was scrolling thru Convo n I think I misunderstood a few pages back lol cuz all the recent messages I was thinking it flowered under that cycle. When you had your friend send pics that's was the grow I thought flowered under 24/12. I also thought that was the grow we were discussing this whole time lmao.
 
Must have mis read or misunderstood you,that's on me but I was scrolling thru Convo n I think I misunderstood a few pages back lol cuz all the recent messages I was thinking it flowered under that cycle. When you had your friend send pics that's was the grow I thought flowered under 24/12. I also thought that was the grow we were discussing this whole time lmao.
Maybe this is why I should use more punctuation 😂😂
 
Oh ok bro lmao,so only a week!! Sheesh bro I was over here thinking that plant was at least flowered under 24/12 lolol well then that explains the look the plant has tho. So is the the clone under 24/12 still alive or no? Hard to tell in text ?
yea it went under for a week of 24/12 then back to 12/12 as i need it to finish off , yea i wish i wasbetter with gramor and such. but yea the clone thjat went under 24/12 is the one i have been taking picks of to show its just given it a slight size increase. but cannot be finsihed on 24/12 :( . with abit of research sinze i think the 18/6 to 12/12 for a week then 13/11 for 4 or 5 weeks then back to 12/12 will be the best light sequence as one of the videos says they could get some starins to flower on a 13.5/10.5 hour light cycle but to give a time for all strains so everyone has a time that wiil flower the genral rule is 12/12 .
 
yea it went under for a week of 24/12 then back to 12/12 as i need it to finish off , yea i wish i wasbetter with gramor and such. but yea the clone thjat went under 24/12 is the one i have been taking picks of to show its just given it a slight size increase. but cannot be finsihed on 24/12 :( . with abit of research sinze i think the 18/6 to 12/12 for a week then 13/11 for 4 or 5 weeks then back to 12/12 will be the best light sequence as one of the videos says they could get some starins to flower on a 13.5/10.5 hour light cycle but to give a time for all strains so everyone has a time that wiil flower the genral rule is 12/12 .
Ok ok I see, so what stage of flower did you give the week of 24/ 12 and do you have before and after pics ? I think the best chance for this to work is to start 24/12 from sprout. But using it as a finishing method like you did could be beneficial if given 24/12 for a week or something like that at end of flower cycle. I've heard of many people saying 24 on at last week can boost trichs,maybe this a similar effect when used as a flower finisher. So what's your plan with the new clone ? You gonna try 24 /12 from sprout or start of veg ? ?
 
it was about week 3 or 4 i put it on 24/12 but i may on this next set of clones once this present plant has nearly finished change the light cycle i was going to do 13/11 but can do another 24/12 again for a week then 12/12 and then could finish off on a 24/12 light cycle once its in the last weeks of flower. think the key in nature is there is a point where it veg's and flowers thats why in nature you get bigger buds and plant but also a lot of that is to do with the extra size it can grow too when in nature . i feel that a 13/12 through flower would be the best option to increase bud size and then finish off with a few days of 24/12 at the end . i have been reading some more stuff on light cycles and one study as said 13/11 can give an increase of up to 30% cause of the extra light in the day and it only increase flowering initiation by 1.5 days. dont know about the finish time though. see in nature your talking 2 to 3 weeks depending on timeof year for each hour of light to go to the next like from 18/6 to 17/7 the time cycle takes 2 or 3 weeks so lets say each hour is a progression to the next faze and a regresion out of the current faze at some point its inbetween in september there is roughly in my area 14:37 hours of sunlight, depending o the strain and its naturally grown latitude thats the daylight hours you want for flowering . i know stardawg which i have now is chemdog plus something else , so i need to find out where they are orignaly gron when it flowers and what the daylight hours are for that area. so i am going to see if i can find that informatioon out and may set my flowering time to the area the two breeds that make stardawg grows in .
 
just found out chemdog 4 is grown in california and is ready about middle to end of october so flower would start at least a month to 2 months before. daylight hours for middle of 15th october in california are 11:20 for 15th september its 12:21 and 15th august is 13:40 so i am going to say 13/11 is the best flowering time for this strain going down to 11/13 to finish off or maybe a day or three before harvest flick it to 24/12 and i am going to try running clear water the 2 days before harvest and then no water the day before harvest one last stress as i heard taking water away from the plant for last day or two can stress it and cause extra thc, cbd. plus 24/12 hour lights it while partially dry the bud well at least get rid of some water so its easier to dry. let the plant eat some of its leaves to get what it needs. i have also just done a nutrient change and lowered trhe dosage just need to wait for it all the recirculate through the system and check the EC of the water . just realised there is an early bloom dosage and a late bloom dosage on the bud-explosion pk booster so must remember that one .

just checkjed EC of water and its at 1.4 which is good could have put slightly more in for 1.8EC

and thinking about it if its a perpetual grow i am not going to be able to do the water thing as there will be plants at different stages of flower :(.
 
some pretty good size buds on the one thats finishing, she is abit bare mas i was pinching of her but left the big ones on to mature .the other 3 littler one are the clones i too of it

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Nice looks really good,no reveg at all ? I never ventured to Dwc,never felt confident enough to consider it. Im gonna try it w some clones first n see how I like it ? I only familiar w soil but I hear really good things and think it could increase my odds of I can make it work. I'll start w extra clones n torture them to get it down lol
 
yea start with a few clones adn opnly thing i have had propblems with is blocked piped cause of wrong nutrients dont add much organic like suger that clogs a recirculationg rdwc system if the pipes are only the small air feed pipes used for air stones y90ou eed the massive pipes . then there is the roots clogging the return pipe up so you got to watch out for that but thats only on system like my system that only use small pipes there are some rdwc systems out there that are a lot better than what i have got for the same price now




this is one i would like to get next its alot better than my rdwc and only uses one set of pipes for feed and return.
 
I get it, people love to experiment, but I just want to point out that this is not very well controlled. A better path to getting big sticky nugs is get a bigger/more powerful light first and foremost and then optimizing each other aspect of the grow as well. I get pretty big flowers without making crazy changes in the light schedule (12/12) as do most of the other growers here.

I'm kind of low-key horrified at the thought of keeping one plant in flower for 24 weeks >.>
I doubt its going to become carcinogenic or turn into a monster that comes after you while you're sleeping. No reason to be horrified. Everything about indoor growing was an experiment at one point or another. The point is, what do i care? I dont smoke, so this is all an experiment to see if something extra-ordinary happens. For all you know, it could revolutionize the industry.
 
lol... maybe?
But if 2 to 4 weeks isn't what he meant, just the added cost per bud in electricity and food seems like it would be extremely prohibitive.
Nope. 24 weeks. It was crazy. I was bound and determined to get to 20% amber, but week after week, hardly any amber. The trichomes seem to get their cues from the plant. If the plant says its almost done, the trichs say yes ma'am, and finishes up. If the plant tells the trichs to keep on truckin, they obey.
 
Really so the crystals turned cloudy but would not turn fully amber or did they stay glassy the whole time? Can u get a close up of crystals but not a macro,so we can see the density of the Crystals?. I think you could be onto something but wouldn't that mean that flower is technically extended?
As far as i could tell, they got pretty cloudy, but to get a pic, you have to have light. That light reflects, and maybe makes them look cloudier than they are. I had put a close up of them on a previous post.
 
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