greensmurf
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Mine stayed green and full for 3 weeks. By the time they fell off my stem as thick as a pencil.
1st DWC/Hempy Harlequin Joe - Pot of Gold - NYSD - BB - ATF '13
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runewulfsong
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Thanks GS, I was wondering, lol... I hadn't seen that before and hadn't noticed it in others folks journals either. Even the experimental seedlings in the flower room have one plant where they're just now curling down, but still lush and green. It was kinda weird, but they're growing. The one in veg got topped with everyone else, lol.
Pics are uploading now, there were a few more decent ones than I though.
hmmm, am I weird cause I find it entrancing to watch the plants and amazing to see the trichs growing more and more each day? Or is that just a grower thing? I kinda feel the same way about tomatos forming, but yeah, not quite... hmmmm, THCMato with high CBD, sounds yummy... ok, back to checking pic uploads, lol.
Pics are uploading now, there were a few more decent ones than I though.
hmmm, am I weird cause I find it entrancing to watch the plants and amazing to see the trichs growing more and more each day? Or is that just a grower thing? I kinda feel the same way about tomatos forming, but yeah, not quite... hmmmm, THCMato with high CBD, sounds yummy... ok, back to checking pic uploads, lol.
Rune the grow is looking pretty darn good. you are doing a good job of asking all the questions and your DIY is really showing though. 
Nicely done.
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runewulfsong
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Ok, uploads done and processed, so here's the pictoral update, lol (sorry about the number of pics, I couldn't make up my mind)
First, the seedling/clone area:
And the better view of the EmGarden:
and the test seedlings:
And now the girls:
Harlequin Jo # 2:
Pot of Gold:
NYSD:
Girlscout Cookies:
Blueberry:
ATF:
And some flower shots:
And that's it for pics today.
Anyone have any idea when/how big that lowest blueberry branch should be before I cut for a clone? I'm thinking it's still a touch too small, but then again, that may be the lack of collars in the bubble cloner.
It seems that if the smaller cuttings don't survive all the moisture that gets higher up the stem, whereas the collar keeps that below, where the roots should go. I've had about 30% success with the bubble cloner without using collars and all of the successes were the thicker stemmed, sometimes woody stemmed, cuttings. At this point, I believe that trying to use bubble or aero cloners without a sleeve will probably cause the cuttings to die... but that's just a guess. I did get some netcups last week, but they didn't have any neoprene sleeves in any size, more less the 2" to match the cups. I might experiment later by combining rapid rooters and bubble by putting in the netpots, lowering the water below them and insering the rapid rooters into the cups, not right now though. I need the clones from the flowering plants to root, so just straight rapid rooters and later I'll try side by side, Rapid Rooter solo and the Rapid Rooter/Bubble Cloner combo and see which gets roots first and who thrives the most... I'm guessing the combo will, due to the constant oxygenation, but again, just an educated guess.
Take care everyone, sweet smooth smokes and thanks for the help and following along with me. I love the sense of community here
First, the seedling/clone area:
And the better view of the EmGarden:
and the test seedlings:
And now the girls:
Harlequin Jo # 2:
Pot of Gold:
NYSD:
Girlscout Cookies:
Blueberry:
ATF:
And some flower shots:
And that's it for pics today.
Anyone have any idea when/how big that lowest blueberry branch should be before I cut for a clone? I'm thinking it's still a touch too small, but then again, that may be the lack of collars in the bubble cloner.
It seems that if the smaller cuttings don't survive all the moisture that gets higher up the stem, whereas the collar keeps that below, where the roots should go. I've had about 30% success with the bubble cloner without using collars and all of the successes were the thicker stemmed, sometimes woody stemmed, cuttings. At this point, I believe that trying to use bubble or aero cloners without a sleeve will probably cause the cuttings to die... but that's just a guess. I did get some netcups last week, but they didn't have any neoprene sleeves in any size, more less the 2" to match the cups. I might experiment later by combining rapid rooters and bubble by putting in the netpots, lowering the water below them and insering the rapid rooters into the cups, not right now though. I need the clones from the flowering plants to root, so just straight rapid rooters and later I'll try side by side, Rapid Rooter solo and the Rapid Rooter/Bubble Cloner combo and see which gets roots first and who thrives the most... I'm guessing the combo will, due to the constant oxygenation, but again, just an educated guess.
Take care everyone, sweet smooth smokes and thanks for the help and following along with me. I love the sense of community here
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runewulfsong
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Thanks Bill... I'm workin on it, one day at a time. I have a pretty solid set of plans, but I do expect them to evolve greatly and am still hoping to put up a greenhouse before spring, or by spring elsewhere and before spring for us, lol.
I'm really psyched to see all the daily changes and the new flowers and crystals and watching HJ2 and PoG just get bigger and bigger is almost mesmerizing. I can definitely see how absolutely easy this could become an obsession as opposed to a pleasurable job or fun hobby, but hey, it would at least be a useful obsession, lol.
I'm really psyched to see all the daily changes and the new flowers and crystals and watching HJ2 and PoG just get bigger and bigger is almost mesmerizing. I can definitely see how absolutely easy this could become an obsession as opposed to a pleasurable job or fun hobby, but hey, it would at least be a useful obsession, lol.
Sinsemillas
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Plants are giving you in flowers, the love and effort you putted into them. Im happy to see this grow nicely! Keep up the good work bro, 
BigIrishDoode
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on that bb if you cut it just above the first node on that branch it should provide a future clone or 2 it looks big enough but the bigger a clone the better in my exp,things are looking good
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runewulfsong
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Thanks Sinse
Thanks BID I was thinking that as well... figure we'll see how she (and the others) look come Friday, which should be defol day. I know it will be for Harlequin and Pot of Gold, we'll see about the others.
Thanks BID
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runewulfsong
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Well, I just went to check on my girls and the 2 seedling experiments in the flower area are both fully showing sex after their dark time last night... and fast growing seed 4 is a male. I'd like to keep him to collect pollen, but I'm not setup with my smaller tent for breeding yet (heck, I don't have the 2 larger tents either, lol). I am wondering if I put him in the bathroom window (south facing), will he survive and keep flowering or will the change in the photoperiod reveg him? I'll pull him if I have to, but if I remember right, both varieties that the seeds came from were very good, so I'd like to collect the pollen.
Any insights?
Any insights?
Sinsemillas
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Since you dont care about yield with a male, I would say keep him and re veg it! or put it inside a closet with a small fan for 12 hours, and then out again, until you can get some pollen and store it! Then apply it with a fine brush !! Males tend to be taller, so it might stretch quite a bit! I would def get seeds, and make your own F1
Good luck, Irie.
Good luck, Irie.
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runewulfsong
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Thanks Sinse, I've been talking to DP and he says that once his males start to flower, moving to a windowed area works for him without photo-issues, as long as it's indirect light.
So, when we get back from errands this afternoon and finish off the gallon of milk in our next batch of Chai, I'll cut the milk gallon to use for a drip pan and that boy in his 2L hempy goes into the guest bathroom window until the flowers start to open
The big question is, do I move another seedling into it's place or pop the Harlequin Jo clone into it's place or wait until the tops I just put into rapid rooters show roots, then flower for sexing? I'm not sure which route I want to go... I'm thinking about just waiting a couple weeks for the tops to root, then putting them in to flower.
Well, off to run errands in a few, back later.
So, when we get back from errands this afternoon and finish off the gallon of milk in our next batch of Chai, I'll cut the milk gallon to use for a drip pan and that boy in his 2L hempy goes into the guest bathroom window until the flowers start to open
The big question is, do I move another seedling into it's place or pop the Harlequin Jo clone into it's place or wait until the tops I just put into rapid rooters show roots, then flower for sexing? I'm not sure which route I want to go... I'm thinking about just waiting a couple weeks for the tops to root, then putting them in to flower.
Well, off to run errands in a few, back later.
i would wait until your topped portions grow roots and place those plants under 12/12 flower to sex them, easy to remove unneeded males from your garden that way.
BigIrishDoode
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like king said but you can go one step further and put the cuts on flower hours and they will sex & grow roots @ the same time i do it often ,& if you want to keep the cuts as clones you just revert them to veg as soon as they sex liluns like that reveg pretty quick nifty plants we grow
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That's pretty much what I was thinking...
today is defol day if my fibro will ease enough for me to do so, and they need it, especially the HJ and PoG, but even the runts have so much new growth they're shading themselves out, lol. This will be interesting, to say the least. I don't know that I can easily move the Emily's Garden with the 6 plants out of the closet due to it's awkwardness in materials and weight and dimensions and the fact it's basically on the floor, so I think there's going to be some contorting, which will lead to pain/spasms, which meanssssss... more purple urkle and RuneWulf's gonna be makin some cookies or gingerbread or something today with canna oil and decarbed blonde kief, lol.
today is defol day if my fibro will ease enough for me to do so, and they need it, especially the HJ and PoG, but even the runts have so much new growth they're shading themselves out, lol. This will be interesting, to say the least. I don't know that I can easily move the Emily's Garden with the 6 plants out of the closet due to it's awkwardness in materials and weight and dimensions and the fact it's basically on the floor, so I think there's going to be some contorting, which will lead to pain/spasms, which meanssssss... more purple urkle and RuneWulf's gonna be makin some cookies or gingerbread or something today with canna oil and decarbed blonde kief, lol.
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And today's pic update... I did do the 21 day defol today, though I didn't take any new clones yet. I figure I'll give them a few days to get past the shock and for the smaller branches to grow just a touch more.
Ok, here's the pics.
Before:
After:
Budlings:
My girl's cat:
I didn't notice until after the camera was put away, but the Harlequin Jo clone I moved into the ladybug hempy is putting out new growth and started to shade out the other clones. I believe she's put no 2 or 3 new nodes in the last couple days. Tomorrow, a new home for her I think she might become the HJ mama.
Ok, here's the pics.
Before:
After:
Budlings:
My girl's cat:
I didn't notice until after the camera was put away, but the Harlequin Jo clone I moved into the ladybug hempy is putting out new growth and started to shade out the other clones. I believe she's put no 2 or 3 new nodes in the last couple days. Tomorrow, a new home for her
I think she might become the HJ mama.
Sinsemillas
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Pistils looking crazy bro, it'll make a smooth smoke Cheers, 
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runewulfsong
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Thanks Sinse, I'm hopin so... that and some nice clones
HomeMedGrower
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Rune, they look great keep up the good work. Congrats on the new mama. 
BigIrishDoode
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man i want a harlequin plant! there i go coveting again, they look good,looks like defol went well, would loved to have tested brix on those removed leaves lol
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runewulfsong
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Thanks HMG --- I really lucked out on that one... I'll take a proven mother over just a cutting of a strain I know we like... even better the mother used for a crop we've bought from and liked. I don't mind having to baby her a bit to bring her fully up to snuff
BID - Thanks... I don't know how the Brix readings would have gone on some of them. The all look healthy enough in general, but I have noticed Pot of Gold is VERY sensative to nutes and it seems heat... the cfls can burn that plant from further away than any of the others and it shows nute burn a LONG way below where any of the others do PPM/EC wise.. I mean as much as 400ppm or .4 - .6 EC (Yes, I didn't realize at one point that if you don't stir your rez, you have different PPM in top/middle/bottom, lol, hence .4 - .6). I ended up with my EC at 1.8 - 2.2 in the top to bottom range because of that. Everything else was find with it, Pot of Gold had random leaf tips burn when that happened. The Harlequin Jo and Girl Scout it would be interesting to see the brix meausurements on. It can actually be hard at times to take pictures of GSC with the flash on that don't look fake, like plastic/wax leaves, lol. The HJ is just a lovely plant. She surprised me at how much she grew and honestly at how very well she took to training and top/fim. If they had been potted individually, I would have kept LSTing her the whole time and she would have thrived. Heck I did more LST on her yesterday while the closet was disassembled and I had the whole EmGarden pulled out for defol. Didn't even droop or wilt. Even the supercropping is only a few days until straight again. Crazy plant. Seriously, Gage Green Group did pretty good with this one, at least the one I got the clone of.
BID, I'm gonna try DP and few others mentioned techniquie to get fem follwn from a couple lower branches from HJ and the others this round and am cloning them all. I will roll some fem seed next time around if at all possible, so who knows, BID might get some Harlequin seeds in a few months
BID - Thanks... I don't know how the Brix readings would have gone on some of them. The all look healthy enough in general, but I have noticed Pot of Gold is VERY sensative to nutes and it seems heat... the cfls can burn that plant from further away than any of the others and it shows nute burn a LONG way below where any of the others do PPM/EC wise.. I mean as much as 400ppm or .4 - .6 EC (Yes, I didn't realize at one point that if you don't stir your rez, you have different PPM in top/middle/bottom, lol, hence .4 - .6). I ended up with my EC at 1.8 - 2.2 in the top to bottom range because of that. Everything else was find with it, Pot of Gold had random leaf tips burn when that happened. The Harlequin Jo and Girl Scout it would be interesting to see the brix meausurements on. It can actually be hard at times to take pictures of GSC with the flash on that don't look fake, like plastic/wax leaves, lol. The HJ is just a lovely plant. She surprised me at how much she grew and honestly at how very well she took to training and top/fim. If they had been potted individually, I would have kept LSTing her the whole time and she would have thrived. Heck I did more LST on her yesterday while the closet was disassembled and I had the whole EmGarden pulled out for defol. Didn't even droop or wilt. Even the supercropping is only a few days until straight again. Crazy plant. Seriously, Gage Green Group did pretty good with this one, at least the one I got the clone of.
BID, I'm gonna try DP and few others mentioned techniquie to get fem follwn from a couple lower branches from HJ and the others this round and am cloning them all. I will roll some fem seed next time around if at all possible, so who knows, BID might get some Harlequin seeds in a few months