SweetSue;3178148 said:Cannabis For Back Pain, Chronic Pain, & Nerve Damage: Guest speaker - Mara Gordon
Part 1: notes from the initial broadcast will update with another listen and a closer ear tomorrow. Great class
Pain of the back and neck is the chief reason that people miss work.
The chief western medicine response has been opiods. Cannabis is a better choice.
Causes:
- genetic conditions
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80% of all Americans
10% around the world.
More seek help for back pain than any other pain
7-10% will develop chronic pain- when pain is the disease
- so much inflammation and memory in the nerves that you can't not feel it
Pain is a warning sign
- lack of pain is dangerous to survival
- pain is meant to be temporary
Opiods cause depressing pain relief
The cause is our proclivity to SIT ALL DAY LONG
- stand and work
- move as much as you can
Women experience more back pain than men. Men miss more work for back pain than women. 50% more than women.
There's no such thing as back pain and lucky in any sentence
Chronic pain caused degradation due to pain behavior.
- this discourages people from movement
- disability sets the stage for lack of productive living
What do the cannabinoids do in your body in response to pain?
5 mechanisms with CB1 and CB2 receptors
- THC interrupts the short-term memory and give you a respite
CBD 30-50 times more powerful than steroids (adrenal damage results)
- neural protector
Pain doesn't occur because the signal is stopped by THC
Pain is reduced by CBD by reducing inflammation
Any nerve ending is potentially a place to feel pain. Nat Geo has this in better info)
When you activate the CB1 receptors stop the pain transmission in three different places
You're reducing and eliminating the sensation of pain by healing the problem.
In legal states Medicare tracked and found
- 1826 less prescriptions for daily doses of opiates
- sleep 362 less doses for sleep aids
- 265 less doses per day for depression
PThese improvements are magnified by the lack of secondary conditions
Cannabis saves us the secondary issues brought on by side effects
What to take
- you can't go wrong
- CBGA Young cannabis plant, before it begins to
* anti inflammatory and analgesic
THCa: anti-spasmodic
THCV for diabetes and weight loss
- patients will respond to CBD in one of three ways: really really sleepy, really active, or no response at all.
CBN will help you sleep and is also an anti-inflammatory
- slightly less secure attachment to the receptor
CBD for inflammation, THC for neuralprotective etc, CBG for anti depressive
How much to take?
- every patient needs to start low
- weight of a man won't tell you the dose
Pick healthy products
The magical formula of terpenes for pain
B-Caryophyllenen is anti inflammatory
Limonene is uplifting
Linalool is relaxing
Myrcene helps cannabinoids cross the BBB
Take after a fat source to increase bioavailability
Topicals will focus relief to tense muscles.
- nice thing with a topical is that you can use it whenever it is
- if you need it, use. You won't hurt yourself at all
Q&A notes:
Blocks pain. Reduces inflammation. Euphoria
You need to get sleep under control first
- treat sleep first: relaxation techniques and dietary awareness
- sleep allows to to feel less pain and deal with the pain you have better
- this allows them to function on a low dose of THC and more CBD during day
- 15-25mg dose for most people for sleep (optimal dose)
*** this isn't a starting dose: begin at 3-5 and work up to the optimal dose
* many ways to administer C for C (cannabis for cause has 15 mg square of chocolate)
Keep a vaporizer
Sublingual 6-8 hours of relief but won't hit for 30-90 min
5-10 mg THC.p, 25 mg of CBD for daytime dose
Most people use too much cannabis
- using less can save you money
- can also reduce prices by reducing strain in the market.
To avoid tolerance buil-up change up the profiles on a regular meds
When you hit your therapeutic dose you'll typically level off on need
If you have about three months without leveling off it's recommended to take a holiday and reset the optimal dose
It's lonely at night when you're in pain. Sleep removes this isolation and keeps you from feeling lost.
By definition chronic pain is chronic
The double-edged sword about pain is that you need to move to find relief, but pain and the opiods make it difficult to do.
- cannabis used correctly allows you to be somewhat self-sufficient. You'll be able to get up.
- movement and staying away of poor dietary choices are called for
Gluten-free diets reduce inflammation and level the emotional tone
- chronic inflammation in your body is your body asking you to make better choices
Correct dose is the level of euphoria you are comfortable with
- citocholine will help with pain reduction and may reduce euphoria
- NOT FOR CANCER PATIENTS!!!
3-5 mg THC + 25 mg CBD for daytime (CBD in two doses)
10- 25 mg THC at bedtime
Vaporizer for breakthrough in the night
If you have fat in your stomach it will make your cannabis meds more bioavailable
Use an infused oil as edible meds
- know how to use it properly
Limonene for day
Myrcene for night (will make you sluggish)
Most CBD comes from sativa plants
Learn how the terpenes react to your body.
1. Hemp-derived CBD lacks the entourage you get from cannabis sativa
2. CBD plants aren't as robust, more skimpy, harder to grow
3. May not have the same variety or volume of terpenes
Zelda's makes their oils from keif.
Always use cannabis with your opiates. Prepare to adjust their opiod dose down.
- it isn't the cannabis making you higher. It's the opiod being potentiated.
Cytochrome P450???
Cannabis doesn't touch level 10 pain. Neither do opiods.
- you aren't having a conversation when you're in level 10 pain
Cannabis will hit all the other levels and have you able to get up and get around.
Opiods won't let you function, or if you do, you may be dangerous to yourself and others.
Cannabis can increase your sense of well-being and productivity.
Mistakes typically seen
- impatience: take too much too soon
* be prepared for it not to work for a couple tries - experiment
* more is not always better
- if you need more and can't wait, vape a small amount that will only have a small effect
Vaporizers is for breakthrough pain
- sublingually administered typically end up cutting way back on smoking (I see this with my edibles)
As long as cannabis is illegal federally employers have the right to discriminate against us with drug testing
- the company that sells the test kits is running this show
Topicals guidelines
- arnica and frankincense
- essential oils should not be to mask the smell, but for medicinal values
- if it smells weedy it isn't well processed
- THC strong will work best for relief (hits the pain by relaxing muscles)
- CBD strong will reduce inflammation but not offer immediate relief
Chronic sciatic : topicals, THCa, THC, CBD
Degenerative bone disease, choose cannabinoids that has bone-stimulant properties
Isolates (i.e. CBGa, can be used to boost the profiles in a specialized medication)
Choose your terpene profile. If your becoming anxious, change the profile
Cannabis can improve neuropathy
- use a topical and vaporize
Cannabis for migraine
- topicals can be used
- need something for systemic care (THC)
- a balanced ratio over time will reduce migraines
We would benefit from learning to dose properly
Educate your doctors to the truth of cannabis
Be patient and keep trying
The big take-away
There's hope. You can get out of the spiral of pain. Take your opportunity. Step out of the box and find your solution.
CANNABIS CAN HELP.