Possible light idea to replace lollipop. Input?

Cultivator;1649026 said:

Fuzzy Duck;1648829 said:

If thats related to current grow journal linked in your sig, so thats 5 plants in oxypots and 16 plant wilma... so 21 plants.


So we're just call that 3oz per plant average... its not a great deal to be honest but better than most people !

I know another fellow who use's 16 pot wilma system on average he gets 2 & 1/2oz per plant dry weight & thats untrained plant for fact...

All strain dependant !

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Ive been thinking about ur reply since i responded earlier and i just want to get a couple things off my chest.

With respect, u obviously havent read my journal. I have 10 oxypots, 21 litre with 14 days veg under 2 600w hps. and i would also say anything over 30 oz is repectable but considering i am on track to double that, something im doing is obviously working. Im not the top scientist on plant horticulture but i have many, many grows behind me and experience over books every day, that is so long as u learn from mistakes and progress with grows. Right at this moment i have more plants growing than alot of members combined on this forum, around 200 to be exact and these aarent hempys. I dont say this to brag or state i have more than anyone else. I say this to make u aware that im no noob to growing and im well versed in many techniques. i was incarcerated some time back for 9 years for one of the most sophisticated grow set ups in the country at that time, thats not to brag either, infact more fool me for getting caught. Now they caught me with thousands of plants, valued at millions hence the harsh sentence. they say for everyone u get caught with, u get away with many more. I no longer grow at that level for many reasons. i worked and grew in holland just over 10 years ago also in large indusatrial set ups. So thats a little background information.

Ive actually only been growing hydro for a little over a year but my results speak for themselves. the yields of my ten oxypots are expected to each yield between 5 and 6.5 oz. Not significant in itself, u could yield far more per individual plant but not 5 per 600w. I challenge anyone to beat that. I dont use co2, i use quality nutes applied correctly with my enviroment set precisely in a 1.2x2.4x2meters area (4x8'). infact i was quite lazy with this grow, had i prepared supports i believe i'd of yielded on average 7.5 oz per plant.

As for 5 oxypots and 16 pot wilma system. Well yes 3 oz per plant is easily achievable, but i'd say the average grower would struggle to get that. Running 1 600w light over a 16 wilma isnt enough and so that would mean putting 5 oxypots in wouldnt be viable for maximum yield. Would i do it, yes. I just try different things in these journals to show people diff ways to grow. I have my set ups that i use that are very successful. But for the purpose of this forum i chose a venue that i had easy acces to where i could show people quite simple how to grow in hydro and coco. I show other grows i have from time to time but the focus of my journal is to educate new growers.

Remember it doesnt matter how many plants u are growing that matters. if i put 40 plants under 2 600w hps id prob end up with alot less bud than if i put half that in. so if 3 oz is easy yield, i say try and get 3oz per plant under 2 600w hps with 20+ plants. Impossible, probably not but highly difficult.

It is strain dependant for a small part, for example some strains are higher yielders naturally and others cant handle alot of shit. but if we just talk on average defoliation does work to increase yields when done correctly at the right time using the right nutrients and correct environment. This isnt a beginners technique, its an advanced technique and should be used once someone understands how to grow a strain correctly letting it take its natural course, otherwise u have no bench mark to compare.

But each to there own. Please dont tell me it doesnt work, i do it and see benefits and so do other very qualified growers on this site. i dont attack how others grow, i may say how id do it differently when im asked for an opinion but im open minded to how others grow. im still improving my techniques for this very reason.

And if u try defoliation and it doesnt work, ask urself was it the plants fault or the growers? its 99% of the time the latter.

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