Darkscotia and doc high brix help journal

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Doc Bud;3739283 said:
Posting pics first, editing later.

more in a bit

Doc Bud;3739290 said:
Fill the pots full of High Brix soil. Soak them thoroughly, drain this way and that....add more soil back in and moisten that....make the divet, plant the seed.

Doc Bud;3739475 said:

Doc Bud;3739483 said:
Finishing up here:

After the pots were dunked and drained, topped off with more soil which was moistened, I used a pen and made a hole about 1/4 inch deep. Sprinkled a small amount of Roots! in and around the hole, and placed the seeds using chopsticks, as I find the little devils stick to my fingers.

After placing each seed, I carefully pinch the small hole close and place the containers over on the heat mat. You only want to raise the soil a degree or two....1 hour on 3 hours off is about right.

Doc Bud;3752413 said:
Got a text from the guy who is filling in while I'm away: one is up. The others will be along shortly.

Doc Bud;3754348 said:
So while that pot dries out and the roots grow, dribble about 1/4 cup water on top, but not right at the base of the seedling.

Give it about a 3 inch dry circle around the stem.

The tap root is close to the bottom of the pot now. We can encourage lateral branching of the roots by keeping just a bit of moisture in the upper region of the soil.

Play close attention to the next few weeks and how and when we water.

Doc Bud;3755345 said:
Plain water was all that was used during and since germination. I dunk and drain the pot PRIOR TO planting the seed. It leeches out a bit of nitrogen and of course wets the down well.

I started doing this after a few people reported their seeds being digested before they could germinate. It's important to start the seeds in HB soil in order to have everything work right the entire time, and not miss a week trying to re-colonize the roots, etc.

Doc Bud;3756238 said:
Just visited my garden.

Two of four up.

I did not soak these seeds prior to putting them into dirt, so I'll allow another 3 days before I replant with two more seeds, in order to get 4.

Some seeds come up really fast, others take longer. These have taken quite a while....but they're up and healthy and will grow strong.

Doc Bud;3757425 said:
I was a bit worried too.....LOL. But this is how I always germinate seeds so I knew they'd arrive in time....which they did.

When the seed starts its life in mineralized, living soil, and gravitropism allows the tap root to orient itself properly we've got our best chance for healthy plants. Each step builds on the other.

So, at this point, I"m weighing the pots, moistening the top every couple days and waiting till they need a drink.

Bright light is very important at this time, so make sure they're really getting a good exposure....not enough to bleach them of course....but strong, bright light.

With a T5 I like the bulbs about 5 inches away from the starts. With LED's pretend you're vegging/blooming large plants and give them that amount of light.

We're going to see short, fat, strong stems. Tight internodes and a high calyx to leaf ratio. In other words, sexy cannabis.

Doc Bud;3763795 said:
Here's where mine are today. I'm soaking the rest of the seeds to get two more up. These two look just fine.

I could tell the pot was lighter today and the top was dry, so I slowly dripped about 4 ounces of water on the perimeter of the soil.

This will encourage roots to seek moisture laterally, as well as down, giving us the framework for a nice rootball.

Doc Bud;3770646 said:
Nothing to report here.

I haven't done anything to them since the last posting. They're growing properly.

I expect another two seeds to come up any day now. I chose the four biggest, most speckled seeds of the lot. 2 didn't come up, so the next two were not quite as "nice" as them. Still, I'm expecting them to germ.

Doc Bud;3770892 said:
Yep, go ahead and give it a bit down the top, just a small amount. The thinking behind this is precisely what you noticed: the pot still has some weight....which we know is moisture.

We don't want the top bone dry and the bottom moist, we'd like to have them dry out simultaneously if possible. There's no need for moisture meters or anything like that---although that would be kinda fun. I don't have time for it right now.....

But doing what we're doing and estimating it will improve things very nicely.

Remember also that our goal at this point is not to grow leaves, but roots. The plant is going to respond to a long interval between rains by growing shorter, with a thick main stem and lots of roots.....traits that are good for indoor growers and at the same time help the plant grow better buds.

So, don't stress on the visible part of the seedling so much.....we're interested mainly in what's happening below. Patience and boredom are the norm at this stage.

Darkscotia;3771401 said:
So with a quick recap of last few weeks hopefully this actually works this time.

So to sum it all up into one.

1.we filled pots with cooked hb soil
2. Drenched pots in straight water in buckets
3. Topped pots off with cooked hb soil and moistened.
4. Made a divot into soil about 1/4 inch deep and sprinkled roots in and around hole and then carefully
placed seed into divots and pinched off soil closing in seed.
5. Then place under lights and played the waiting game. With every once and awhile dripping water were seeds where placed to ensure they stayed damp( I used paper towel damp and rang out above seeds trick provided by buckshot I think if wrong sorry when I get chance to go back I may have to correct myself lol)
6. Once seeds came up when top soil got dry and pots felt lighter dribbled 1/4 cup of straight water down tops of pots while trying to keep a 2-3 inch dry circle around main stem to enhance root side growth.

Doc Bud;3772164 said:
Since this us such a boring part of the journal, I thought I'd post some pics of what roots look like after harvest,but everything goes right.

The things I'm showing here will result in roots like that. You all have seen the buds, but you need roots to get those kind of buds, especially in living soil.

Darkscotia;3772914 said:
Doc I think you should post a picture of the root ball we’re pushing for before we up pot. Gives us a goal to reach lol

Doc Bud;3773145 said:
There are videos on the website, as well as what scoring looks like.

Notice the strong stem.

Doc Bud;3775162 said:
Another one up. If the fourth comes up well be 4 for 6. Not great, but not bad. These are the slowest seeds I've had in quite a while, but they're showing vigor once they germ.

Darkscotia;3776388 said:
Not sure how I did it but I did. My wife was right by saying they weren’t looking right. On 2 plants the single blade leafs are showing signs of being burnted on edges. You can see on one I’ve crumbled damage part of leaf off. I’m not too concerned as I know they’ll come back around. I’ve used bottled water until this point to water around edges. I’m going to start using my actual water instead of bottled.
All got alittle water sprinkled around edges and there really starting to fell light.
Rh in room as stayed steady around 55-58 and rooms temps staying between 20 lights off and 25-27 lights on.and when I check bottom of root zone in pots are are typically sitting around 20-22c.

Doc Bud;3776497 said:
I don't see a problem there! Seriously, they look just fine. The lower leaves will do that occassionally, but the new growth is turgid and looks great.

Are the pots getting light? If you're worried, a weak Transplant drench can be done at this point. Mix it on the low side.

Doc Bud;3776530 said:
As I've said before....it's not leaves we're after right now, but roots.

Go ahead and give them a half cup of Transplant down the top and then wait for them to dry out before dunking. The reason I'm saying this is to make CERTAIN the soil and roots are communicating and to make sure you don't stress!

Right now, the little plant it putting all of its energy into those roots, desperate to find moisture. If it digests a lower leaf or two in the process....no problem! They'll be plenty more leaves before we're done, and those single blader, early leaves aren't going to be needed or wanted.

Roots....not leaves. Soil.....not plant. We're going to let the soil do the work this time.

Doc Bud;3776547 said:
Since I'd put it down the top, about half a cup each plant, how about mix up a half gallon and add that 8mil? You can use the rest on your other plants, etc.

Again, I'm not worried, but this action will put your psyche right, and I do believe the plants appreciate that somehow. "appreciate" might not be the right word, but they do respond to our electric energy somehow.

Doc Bud;3776899 said:
Yep. Only giving 1/2 cup per plant. Its not a legit watering, let alone a drench.

Also, keep in mind that we .ca use up to 1 ounce per gallon or 1 cup per gallon safely. Those are the Rescue and Super Drenches.

Also the directions say erring on the high side is better than the low side. Drenches can be tripled with no ill effects. Foliars are where you can cause problems.

Doc Bud;3776900 said:
Edit.....1 cup per 5 gallons. Phone spell check

Doc Bud;3778879 said:
Here's where mine are at today:

As you can see, one of the replacement seeds has broken ground. As mentioned before, I simply sowed it right in to the same container as the other non-start....and it came right up. The other replacement still hasn't broken ground. So, we're 3 for 6 on germinating these seeds.

I did absolutely nothing to them today. No watering or anything. They're just doing their thing, growing roots, etc.

Doc Bud;3781879 said:
So, still nothing showing from seed #4. But here are the other three. No action taken today.

Darkscotia;3783022 said:
Girls are just chugging along. Growth not all to much but as doc says all the magic is happening in the soil right now.
2of3 seeds have popped and the other probably isn’t going to pop. These were older seeds and didn’t get any water soak before putting into soil. But regardless the 2 are doing just fine. Haven’t had to sprinkle any water on soil as of yet.
The 3 passions got 1/2 cup of transplant down top like 2 days ago and top soil is starting to dry up again. Very bottom soil still a bit damp though. Pots still have a bit of weight because of it.
Some pics

Doc Bud;3783306 said:
HOw is the weight of the pot now? Close to needing a drench?

We don't actually want them to wilt...but want to get them right before they wilt. Mine weren't ready for a drench yesterday.

Darkscotia;3784820 said:
I’d say very close to needing drench. Pot still got a-little weight as bottom soil still a bit damp. Top soil dries up very 2 days or so. Should I keep dribbling water down top every time top soil dries up or just let it all dry out so we can drench.

Doc Bud;3784944 said:
I'd say it's time for a first drench! You could do straight water and it would be fine....but I'm going to suggest a Transplant drench. 1 oz per gallon, with 3mil Tea. There is a video on the website and on IG if you want to watch how I do it.

Doc Bud;3785222 said:
You've got it right, but I wasn't perfectly clear:

1 oz of Transplant per gallon of water.......3mils Tea total.

Again, you've got it right and I'm just repeating this for clarification. Nothing but water on the next one.

Could you do straight water this time? Yes....but by the looks of things they're going to be really happy this way.

Watch what happens in the next 10 days....

Doc Bud;3786673 said:

Doc Bud;3788293 said:
Some plants have inefficient roots compared to others, so when I see that I usually up the Transplant, which you can view as the drench that soothes and encourages roots.

GE for stem and leaf, cat for reproduction.

Doc Bud;3790564 said:
UPdate: No action taken today. I think they get dunked tomorrow. Plain water on the two big ones....nothing on the small one.

This is two hours after lights off and a bit colder than I'd like....but they're quite perky usually.

Doc Bud;3793520 said:
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Doc Bud;3794103 said:
Pure water dunk today.

Darkscotia;3794159 said:
Taking right off. I forgot yours were in soil first and popped first. So at this point do you start alternating drenchs on your girls?

Doc Bud;3794240 said:
I think the next watering will be a Transplant drench. Then pure water, then GE. I'll know more in a few days when they're ready, and I'll explain my rationale at the time.

I may do straight water again....I may do GE. I don't know just yet.

Doc Bud;3794439 said:
I'm gonna do my best! The reason I went with straight water---which is the usual practice---is because there is good turgor, good growth, lite green petioles and 7 bladed leaves on the second set. In other words, the plant is purring....

If I had some leaf digestion, 3 bladed leaves, purple petioles or poor turgor, I might have opted for another drench, as in Scotia's case, where we went for Transplant, just to make sure the roots don't feel neglected.

Doc Bud;3797736 said:
No action taken today.....but I do have some observations:

9bladed leaves on the 2nd set!! This is a very happy and vigorous hybrid.

2 phenos from 2 seeds......cross isn't stable yet, which is no problem, but something to be aware of.

Doc Bud;3801936 said:
Recovering after an 18 hour day. No action taken today, just looking at their ways. These plants want topped, I think

Doc Bud;3804860 said:
Today they got their first drench. The other veg plants were on schedule for GE, and these are obviously doing well, so since there was no need to jumpstart the roots, they got the same treatment as everyone else.

2oz. GE plus 5 mils
Tea in 5 gallons of water.

Put that into 2 buckets and dunk two at a time.

Please note the sleepy one. Bone dry and right after 18 hours of light.....normal behavior. She will perk up just fine before lights on.

Doc Bud;3808215 said:
You're not doing anything at all wrong with mixing/cooking. We're not going to look there for problems, you're more careful than I am!

Tea is fine at 2-3 mils per 5 gallon bucket....especially if all of that is going to find its way into soil. But with dunking, much of it is left behind, so we add more.

Also, you'll notice that Tea is greatly increased with Rescue and Super drenches. Once we get into bloom, and are using saucers you'll see the amounts decrease, especially if we aren't doing root remediation.

I don't think you're doing anything at all wrong....and your plants all look very nice! We're trying for perfection----which I love----and at the same time we're trying to teach the thought process behind it all.

When things are going great----and you're nearly there----the numbers for this next feeding would be different.

One thing I love about High Brix is how we all fret over one leaf......pretty cool if you ask me. Our problems are quite small, compared to other methods.

Hopefully, by now you're starting to understand how the products work in veg and what they do. Things will get more interesting very soon! We're almost ready to start foliar feeding!

Doc Bud;3808537 said:
We talked about this quite a bit early on in this thread. Dribble maybe 1/4 to 1/2 cup of water on the top so that the top and bottom of the container dry out at the same time.....if possible. This will encourage roots to grow everywhere, as you see in DS's pic.

Here's where mine are at today:

I'm happy with how these look. No action taken today, but I'll probably be mixing up some Brix spray tomorrow, maybe tonite. They're ready!

Doc Bud;3810546 said:
Mine got GE today. 1.5oz in 5 gallons of water with 6mils of Tea.

Dunked a tray of large plants and our 2 in that. The third one wasn't ready.

Pics tomorrow....one is probably male.

Doc Bud;3814979 said:
Remember, when we dunk, most of the product is left behind in the bucket so each plant isn't getting anywhere near as much as it seems......and yes, 1oz per gallon of water for the Rescue Drench.

The problem is that we've got some growers who grow one single plant and understandably wish to conserve the products, using just enough each time........and on the other end, there's me who has hundreds of gallons of each product laying about the place, and I usually feed 10 or more at a time. A single 5 gallon bucket can dunk about 12 plants quite easily.

So, here's what I'm trying to reconcile and figure out SO THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS IT:

If I'm feeding 20 plants, I'll mix up 5 gallons of water and an ounce an a half of Transplant with 5 or so mils of Tea, put half in each of two buckets and dunk 'em two at a time. It would work the same if I dunked one, single plant in that 5 gallon bucket, it would just be very wasteful.

If I was going to do just a single plant----which I never do cuz I've got more than one at all times....I'd find a bucket with different dimensions so I can use less water and have less waste.....but the ratio of product needs to be the same. That's why we went with the Mils/gallon of soil thing. It seemed it was working out that way for most folks we talked to.

But do you see the problem here? putting 45 mils in a 5 gallon bucket is how I would do it. But someone else might only want 3 or 4 mils of drench to feed a single plant. Obviously, if they put that amount in 5 gallons it would quite different.

When we first started, I let everyone do their own math. So when I said 1 oz per 30 square feet (which is how it would work in a raised be outside and also how it works for 6 large plants occupying a 4x8 tray) I just left it at that and people figured out on their own how to adjust it for larger or smaller sizes.

That approach has drawbacks.

The "add exactly this much" approach also has major drawbacks.....so I'm desperately trying to thread the needle between the two so folks don't have to think so much and can just follow a formula.

But all along, I've always said that the drenches can be mixed MUCH STRONGER without ill effect and that feeding on the high side is better than on the low side and most importantly that people need to become familiar with the products and how they work so as so just "know" how much to use based on experience.....which is what I do and most of the people who actually use my gear better than me also do.

So, for a single, one gallon pot: if I was doing a normal feeding I'd find a bucket that the one gallon pot could be submerged in....fill that bucket with a gallon of water and 2 to 3 mils of the drench and 3 to 5 mils of Tea and let the soil wick up as much as possible, then drain.

This comes very close to the directions on each bottle....but you can't add the same amount to 5 gallons of water and get the concentration the same in the soil.

Does this make sense? Some folks can easily convert numbers and amounts......others are not so adept and natural this way. It's not easy trying to get each type of grower to understand all of this.

That's what this journal is for! Everyone can see in real time what I actually do and while there might be confusion, at least we know the answer! It's a matter of correcting the math.

The easiest thing for people who simply can't get it would be to top water only. Then, the instructions on the bottles would work great.

Doc Bud;3815263 said:
They needed water today! Hooked up and thriving.
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Doc Bud;3815516 said:
100% Sue. I agree with your assessment and Gazoo's recommendation.

There must be both kinds of nitrogen in the soil prior to the Cat Drench. Organic nitrogen needs microbial action, while nitrate does not.

GE is nitrate....while Transplant and Cat Drench are organic NH3. Urea also breaks down into ammonia....organic nitrogen.

So, if the soil never gets any organic nitrogen during veg, the crew of Nitrogen fixing microbes is understaffed, under trained and out of shape.

Bouncing off of what you said, I think the "mind" of the grower comes into play here. Back a while when some folks were making applets and spreadsheets for drenches and feeding schedules I think a bunch of people who think along those lines became interested in High Brix and started growing/trading ideas and so forth. I never did feature one of those spreadsheets in the directions, neither did I actually "endorse" one past saying, "It looks good to me." I was basing that off the fact that his plants looked really nice, and if he was following his program it was a good idea.

Meanwhile, I approach the whole growing thing differently. Many of us "veteran" or OG High Brixers did all sorts of things early on: Growing a whole crop with just GE. Growing a whole crop with just Cat Drench, feeding WAAAAY past the directions trying to see if it killed plants, etc.

All of us were fixated on the living, 3D, analog, real time retinal images, real time olfactory, auditory and other sensory information associated with the plant's response to this or that. None of the really advanced of us pays too close attention to exact measurements....we kinda know how long the plume of Tea should be when it hits the water. We know how loud the "plop" is for an ounce....and we don't care too much if it's a bit over.

We can sense and understand what to do because we understand the living applications of the products.

Contrast that type of thinking with a highly analytical, scientific mind that sees things in terms of EC, ppm, mils/gallon, and application rates.

The method of learning and teaching the first group of growers is not going to be at all like the method for teaching the analytical/engineering minds.

I have neglected explaining things in clear terms for those folks. Hopefully, we can all get on the same page via this journal, seeing how the stuff is really applied.

So far so good!

Doc Bud;3816806 said:
Update:

The smallest of the three needed its first drench today. Growth Energy. Full Strength. I just dunked it rotation with other vegging plants.

11 bladed leaves on the largest one. I worried its a male, but if not WOW! This Black Cherry Float really likes HB soil.

I'm going to get out the magnifying glass and look for lady bits on the plants daily now. The next time I brix the bloom room, I'll give these a foliar feed. Things are going very well.

Gazoo;3816902 said:
What made you go with the Growth Energy/Dunk for the first dunk as opposed to the Transplant/Dunk ?

Just curious, kinda had my mind set to TRANSPLANT/Dunk first

Doc Bud;3817564 said:
Another great question Gazoo!

Here's my thinking on the matter:

The plant was perfectly healthy, which means the soil and roots are communicating. I could have done Trans....RO or GE....but the fact is the biota are thriving so there was no remedial action needed.

So, everything else in the veg room was getting GE....so I just dunked this plant right along with the others.

Darkscotia;3817610 said:
All passion got there first brix spraying last night mixed up 350 ml water with 10 ml brix. Then this morning all girls got dunked in 5 gallons of water with 1/4 oz tp. These are feeding about every 3 days as of last 3 feedings.
Some pictures right before dunking

Will post some normal light pictures tonight or tomorrow

Doc Bud;3817634 said:
OK! Well done so far.

At this stage, I like to wait to see preflowers before doing any topping or training.

Also, it's time to do 2 drenches in a row with water in between. This will mitigate the leeching action of a straight water dunk. The water is still needed, but they need the calcium in the drenches more.

So, from here on out adjust your veg routine to: drench, drench, RO, drench, drench, RO.

So far, so good! They look really healthy.

Doc Bud;3817659 said:
Yes, continue to alternate drenches....just with less watering. You've got it.

Those are healthy, happy plants. Don't be afraid to feed the soil....the plants are asking for it.

When we get to the point where they need daily watering/drenching, we'll do 3 drenches then water. That usually only lasts for a week for me.

They'd be fine with the usual alternating drenches....possible Rescue....etc. But this is one of the "tips" I'm happy to communicate.

As you become more familiar with things, you'll use your intuition to make up your own schedules....and they'll be pretty much what we're doing here with minor differences.

When mixing things to get ready for a drench, pay attention to the physics of putting the drench into the bucket....how much noise does the "plop" make? How long a plume does Tea leave in the clear water? What is the color of the final mix? Just pay attention, try to engage all your senses.....your brain will catalog all this and soon pattern recognition will take over.

Pay attention to the leaves, the top of the soil, the stem color, petiole color, turgor....all of that. Touch the leaves....they should be flexible, velvety....not hard or brittle. Start to take it all in, just carefully observe....no need to take notes of everything, just give them your attention every day.

I inspect every plant, every day. Then, after I burn one, I'll often "re-garden" or go around and look at this or that.....and many times I see a small web....or find a dead fan deep under the canopy....etc.

Then, after the next drench, I might notice the petioles got better....or worse....etc.

Again, let this sink in. It's like the smells and sounds of your childhood. You know them, even though you may not have taken notes.....that's the level you want to get to when growing.

A fully aware, experienced, mindful and intuitive form of gardening, based on repetition and wonder.

While there's nothing at all wrong with the lab-notebook, detailed recording of things....we want all of that to sink in so it's automatic and we're functioning as human being were meant to function: cultivators.

That's what we are supposed to do! Cultivate. No other animal does it. It's our job. Not killing, poisoning, clear-cutting, synthesizing....but cultivating. That's what nature intended our job to be.

Doc Bud;3817945 said:
it's hard to say what you're aiming for....perky leaves and awesome phototropism for starters. I like the stems to be really strong, so you don't need support, or at least as much support. Buds are bigger if the plant isn't falling over....

But the main thing is you use your eyes, ears, nose, fingers and taste. IE: last run the stems were stiff as pencils...the buds were dense and the flavor was incredible! This run, the stems aren't quite as strong, the buds are not quite as dense and it smells different. Still good....just different.

Pay attention to everything and soon your brain will make connections. That's how we're hard wired. We losing that when all we look at is text and screen...especially a small phone.

Go fully analog and try to get all your senses involved and just be patient! Without realizing it, your brain is doing what is is supposed to do and soon you'll get a "green thumb." Each of us is capable of this, but it takes more time for some.

I find that people under 30, generally speaking of course, have more trouble with this than people over 60....because the older folks had hours of boredom when they were kids and began paying attention to clouds, wind, noises...imagination, etc. The younger folks know a slightly different experience: video, electronics, zero boredom, and so forth.

But we're all wired the same way!

Doc Bud;3819496 said:
Update: Topped off the two big ones with about 1/4 cup of water. Probably need a drench tomorrow or the next day.

They're growing like crazy and I hope I get a female. The Black Cherry Float has vigor....11 bladed leaves coming in at all new nods.

Maybe we'll see some 13 blades in bloom? It's been a while.

Doc Bud;3820758 said:
Yep! Keep watching closely. Don't worry about taking notes....just engage all your senses and take it all in.

I've been thinking about this HB thing pretty much to the exclusion of everything(one) else for the last couple months and I think I've stumbled upon somthing worth sharing. I've already said a bit about it, but I'll say more:

What we're trying to do here is something on a higher level than just feeding plants and soil. Absolutely we're trying to feed the plants/soil as good as we can.....but the approach to doing so isn't quite limited to measuring liquids and weighing pots and managing the environment.

Yes, we need to do all that and do it right!

But what takes it to the next level is when we ourselves begin to function according to OUR roots. We're not supposed to be disconnected from the earth, insulated from the earth via rubber shoes, rubber tires, (i know it's not real rubber....it's worse) many storied buildings, no time to take off our shoes and walk on the beach, swim in the lake....

No time to be outside working with nature.

Well, technology is changing much faster than our basic neurology! Sure, as marvelous intelligent creatures we adapt to artificial lights, random and changing photoperiods, and so forth......but our ancient DNA is designed to commune with nature, to help our environment thrive, to cultivate crops, tend flocks, watch stars, moon and sun.....pay attention to the wind, the shadows, where the sun sets, where it rises, when the birds sing...how they sing, etc.

All of that is hardwired, deep within us.

The more we pay attention to the plants with a sense of wonder, the more all that ancient programming kicks in and starts humming away in the background----no effort on our part needed, just a sense of wonder focused on the plants and soil.

Things will start to "click." You'll know what to do. You'll be doing what you're supposed to do.

Science has given us the soil.....by studying and copying naturally occurring, mineralized, productive soils around the world. But cultivation isn't "just" science. There's another dimension that is mystical, ancient and can't be taught didactically. It is precisely this level we're trying to reach with High Brix growing!

We've got the best replication of productive soil we can have......short of living on the side of a volcano. What's needed now is to interact with and manage the living things in those pots.....and that only comes by experience.

Each of us can do this, but it might take longer for some than others. I think this is why chefs have done so damn well with HB. They understand chemistry from a different perspective than a guy in a white coat who does quantitative analysis on various substances. Chef's may not understand that heat breaks polypeptide bonds in proteins and that's what makes and egg go from raw to cooked.......but chef's definitely know how to use that process and make tasty eggs, done just right etc.

While we all need to start with numbers and measuring cups....I'd like us to all end up just sort of knowing what to do without all the measuring.

I used to say, "follow directions for a couple runs and learn how the products work." I still mean that, but I guess I mean more than that:

Follow directions for as many runs as needed until the products, the soil and the plants start obeying your will and you understand their needs and applications on a deep, mystical level.

Again, gaze at them, notice things. Count the serrations on the leaves, note their colors.....is the petiole all purple, half and half, or all green? Do the stems glow bright green, or do they have purple streaks? Notice it all. Don't write it down, just pay attention, day after day.

We're supposed to do this stuff. We're designed to do it. And each of us can be far better at it that we know.

Doc Bud;3821217 said:
2 of the 3 needed water today. There was some GE left over from veg watering yesterday, about 1 gallon in the five gallon bucket.

I diluted it 4 to 1 by adding 4 gallons RO to the bucket and dunked them in that. Plain water would have been fine, but I was too lazy to dump out the drench and knew they'd be happy.

The correct thing to do would have been RO and 1/4 trans......but no worries.

Transplant next.

These gals (hopefully) are going to like to be topped, based on structure.

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Darkscotia;3823491 said:
Last update of the year. All got straight water(dunked) then will get back to back drenchs(dunked). Looking good before feeding.

Doc Bud;3824481 said:
No action taken today but the big two will need water tomorrow for sure.

Bright green stems, shiny green leaves.....this is what I like to see at this point. If I knew it was a female, I'd top it.

But that will to wait till I know for sure.

Doc Bud;3824484 said:
Here it is.https://uploads.420-cdn.com/20180101/c2d9b79379fb8119914873a1a139fe9d.jpg

Darkscotia;3824571 said:
I don’t recall seeing you say they got here first brix feeding yet. Did I just miss something or have they not got brix yet.

Doc Bud;3824928 said:
They got brix about a week ago when I sprayed the rest. They're due again real soon.

Doc Bud;3826174 said:
Bulk dry stuff is 4x what is in the kit. So 5lbs amendment and 4 lbs recharge.

Lady bits and 13 bladed leaves on the two big ones!
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Darkscotia;3827356 said:
So right now feeding at about 1oz drench for 3.5gallons of water with 5ml tea. Should I bump it up some

Doc Bud;3827365 said:
If they need water every day....no, keep it right there. Just do two drenches in a row, then water, then two drenches in a row, etc.

GE, GE.....h20.....Trans, Trans.....h20.

If they need water every other day, do like this:

GE.....trans....h20.....GE....trans.....h20.

1oz for 3.5 gallons is pretty good at this point. If they look like they need more....bump it up. But I think as long as the drench stays in the soil a couple days before watering with pure water, you'll be good.

We're just a couple weeks away from Transplanting. I have to make sure I have room!

On edit: remember to keep the top of the pots slightly moist as they dry out. This is not necessary when you get to the every-day stage.

Doc Bud;3827386 said:
Nice! We'll probably be at the daily stage for a week.

You might try bumping up the GE one time. Trans is fine now. There's good colonization of the roots.

I'm going to take clones today, now that I have at least two females. Keep a sharp eye out for preflowers.

Doc Bud;3827900 said:
Transplant drench today. They need water Every other day now.

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Darkscotia;3828929 said:
So my dark green passions has been a awful sad little girl. She just droops everyday. I get the odd time I catch her praying but other then that just droops. She’s keep her colour and still growing just looks like shit. She’s look like she may have nitrogen toxicity. Any recommendations. She just had a good straight water feed 4 days ago roughly
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Doc Bud;3828974 said:
Looks fine to me.....she's getting root bound. Now is a good time to top, take clones, clean up the lower branches etc. in preparation for bloom.

No problem. When they have lots of foliage and become root bound they do this. Mine too. It's time to trim the excess and shape the plant for bloom.

Doc Bud;3829392 said:
They almost needed water today, so I top watered 12 oz.

They will get a good drench tomorrow.

I pruned them up and took clones. I'm not going to top these two, since I've not grown the strain before, but they appear to "want" to be topped.

Before and after with clones.

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